RE: Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack | Driven
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I own one of these. The Scat Pack is (by a quite large margin) the most balanced, best handling and track (not strip) fastest Challenger available today. It doesn't have the mountainous horsepower/torque of Hellcat/Redeye cousins, but it is also less schizophrenic in the way it drives. The 8sp auto version is significantly faster 0-60 than the manual. Mine has a few mods - though nothing dramatic and it gets there in 4 secs dead - and less than 4 with my Nitto DRs on the back.
The sub-$40k price tag is a little misleading - my 2015 was $47k and change out the door - my current 2019 Widebody was $56k after the hand-shake, so the $40k version is basic bare-bones, no extras, no wide body/big wheels/big brakes/adjustable shocks and no on-road costs (which include gas-guzzler tax in US). But you do get that monster motor, of course.
I absolutely love mine.
The sub-$40k price tag is a little misleading - my 2015 was $47k and change out the door - my current 2019 Widebody was $56k after the hand-shake, so the $40k version is basic bare-bones, no extras, no wide body/big wheels/big brakes/adjustable shocks and no on-road costs (which include gas-guzzler tax in US). But you do get that monster motor, of course.
I absolutely love mine.
macky17 said:
Sounds like the perfect Challenger. I’d like to hear from people who drive one in the UK. Are they just a little too big to enjoy anywhere but an A road?
They can appear large but the non-widebody is about the same width and a few inches longer than Mustang. The Mustang is fine on A / B roads, beyond that its never going to be like a Twingo going down smaller lanes.Once you've seen the widebody the regular ones look a bit plain and naked IMO. Scat Pack widebody is the sweet spot combo for me with these.
blueedge said:
I have that same engine in my Charger and I love it - I've put almost 30k miles on the car mainly from road trips around the States over the past 18 months:
If I needed 4 doors, that would be my choice too - great color!Charger's rear wheel tubs are a little more forgiving - I've seen YouTube vids of a guy running 315/35/20 on 10.5" wide rims without any rubbing issues. Makes a quite massive difference, traction-wise.
Matt Harper said:
If I needed 4 doors, that would be my choice too - great color!
Charger's rear wheel tubs are a little more forgiving - I've seen YouTube vids of a guy running 315/35/20 on 10.5" wide rims without any rubbing issues. Makes a quite massive difference, traction-wise.
Thank you - I think the more subtle colour helps keep me out of trouble sometimes...!Charger's rear wheel tubs are a little more forgiving - I've seen YouTube vids of a guy running 315/35/20 on 10.5" wide rims without any rubbing issues. Makes a quite massive difference, traction-wise.
I didn't know that about the rear wheel tubs. I don't see too many of the RWD Charger's where I am, typically it's the AWD versions.
panholio said:
245 section rear tyres seem narrow for the power and torque levels.
Absolutely right - hence the long overdue widebody upgrade - 305/35/20 mostly solves the traction issue.Standard Hellcat has equally inadequate 275 section tires - not sure why Mopar were so cheap with the wheel/tire packages on these cars.
Good for smokey burnouts of course...
shalmaneser said:
1950kgs is seriously porky though!
Doesn't matter with enough hp 
So its a Demon, but check out the crazy numbers with Doug DeMuro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCp-kE9sqxw
1/4 mile time quicker than Veyron, La Ferrari etc.
Official 0-60 in 2.3 seconds.
Quicker than 918 Spyder for a Million dollars less.
MadDog1962 said:
£98K for one of those is slightly insane, you could buy a lot of much nicer European stuff for that kind of cash.
Stateside one of these makes a whole lot of sense at circa US$40K, but on the Eastern side of the pond you'd be crazy to pay 3 times as much when you could have a very nice new Porsche for the same money. Not forgetting that the quality of trim etc in American cars is still relatively poor.
Stateside one of these makes a whole lot of sense at circa US$40K, but on the Eastern side of the pond you'd be crazy to pay 3 times as much when you could have a very nice new Porsche for the same money. Not forgetting that the quality of trim etc in American cars is still relatively poor.
Just why would anyone buy a porsche over a hellcat?
Thousands of the same old from Porsche compared to relatively few dodges and know which would get the looks..
shalmaneser said:
1950kgs is seriously porky though!
Agreed ! My much missed 2003 E46 M3 was circa 1540kgs and that felt heavy, but over 1,900 kgs is seriously lardy. No wonder it needs 480 hp to hit 60 in 4.4 seconds, that's as fast as a Griffith 500, which weighs just 1,050 kgs and has circa 275hp.
I'm drawn to these because I own an original 70 Challenger R/T, but if I did take the plunge, il go to the States and source a circa 2010/12 model.
Edited by neutral 3 on Monday 3rd June 01:03
MadDog1962 said:
£98K for one of those is slightly insane, you could buy a lot of much nicer European stuff for that kind of cash.
Stateside one of these makes a whole lot of sense at circa US$40K, but on the Eastern side of the pond you'd be crazy to pay 3 times as much when you could have a very nice new Porsche for the same money. Not forgetting that the quality of trim etc in American cars is still relatively poor.
Stateside one of these makes a whole lot of sense at circa US$40K, but on the Eastern side of the pond you'd be crazy to pay 3 times as much when you could have a very nice new Porsche for the same money. Not forgetting that the quality of trim etc in American cars is still relatively poor.
Have you looked at the quality of the trim in German cars recently ?? oh and name me one current german car that isn't dreary
and soulless I wish they would stick to making washing machines ...
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