RE: Volkswagen ID.R attacks the Nordschleife!
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fblm said:
''6:05.336. While that's some way short of the 5:19.546''
6:05 is an epic time regardless. That said 'some way short' has to be the understatement of the year! 46 seconds is the difference between a viper acr and a honda civic!
It is a very impressive time. Although VAG group have ballsed up the publicity piece a bit. They should have held the 919 off for a while to give the ID.R the glory of holding the outright lap record for a time. Would have gotten much more publicity and back patting than it “only” having the EV record and not being anywhere close to the new outright record.6:05 is an epic time regardless. That said 'some way short' has to be the understatement of the year! 46 seconds is the difference between a viper acr and a honda civic!
dvs_dave said:
FourWheelDrift said:
The circuit has changed since Bellof's lap, they have flattened out the crest before flugplatz for one in 2016 plus others that make it quicker - https://www.autoevolution.com/news/nurbrugring-s-n...
Lap times cannot really be compared with this or the 919. Only compare the VW with the 919.
Yes, the track has been tweaked over the years, but nothing that could suddenly lop 10’s of seconds off a lap, all else being equal. A few seconds total at most made up of 10ths here and there.Lap times cannot really be compared with this or the 919. Only compare the VW with the 919.
Very impressive, although I'm still in awe of the 919..
The EV technology will inevitably improve and take over in the next couple of decades - however if this morning I'd lined up in a Morris Minor alongside the VW to do 14 laps of the Ring (the last GP distance in 1976) I would now be celebrating an heroic BMC victory...
The EV technology will inevitably improve and take over in the next couple of decades - however if this morning I'd lined up in a Morris Minor alongside the VW to do 14 laps of the Ring (the last GP distance in 1976) I would now be celebrating an heroic BMC victory...
E65Ross said:
sparta6 said:
So a run from Liverpool to Monaco is out of the question ?
Well for starters it's a race car, so, erm, yes...? Just like it would in any other race car.moffspeed said:
Very impressive, although I'm still in awe of the 919..
The EV technology will inevitably improve and take over in the next couple of decades - however if this morning I'd lined up in a Morris Minor alongside the VW to do 14 laps of the Ring (the last GP distance in 1976) I wouldnow be celebrating an heroic BMC victory...still be there now
The EV technology will inevitably improve and take over in the next couple of decades - however if this morning I'd lined up in a Morris Minor alongside the VW to do 14 laps of the Ring (the last GP distance in 1976) I would
ajprice said:
moffspeed said:
Very impressive, although I'm still in awe of the 919..
The EV technology will inevitably improve and take over in the next couple of decades - however if this morning I'd lined up in a Morris Minor alongside the VW to do 14 laps of the Ring (the last GP distance in 1976) I wouldnow be celebrating an heroic BMC victory...still be there now
The EV technology will inevitably improve and take over in the next couple of decades - however if this morning I'd lined up in a Morris Minor alongside the VW to do 14 laps of the Ring (the last GP distance in 1976) I would
https://youtu.be/0xwc54G2Ur8
JD said:
I’m not sure VW have revealed the spec of the car as yet?
I’m sure in the year since Pikes Peak there have been many hours in the garage.
I’d expect it to be up there with the 919, no more than say 15 seconds adrift.
I simply don’t see why VW would do it otherwise.
15s adrift would still be V8 era F1 car speeds. Hell not. I’m sure in the year since Pikes Peak there have been many hours in the garage.
I’d expect it to be up there with the 919, no more than say 15 seconds adrift.
I simply don’t see why VW would do it otherwise.
Jellinek said:
Curious to note that it easily hits 270 kmh early on but on the final straight it was hitting around 245-250. Was this drop in performance down to headwind, gradient or perhaps battery condition? Be interested to hear from anyone familiar with the track or conditions on the day.
Probably battery condition. There's an interesting series of videos on Youtube about a guy who converts an Evora to EV for time-attack and from what I remember he ends up basically getting two laps of a shortish circuit at full power before it starts to trail off but the car is capable of many more laps than that before it's actuall flat. I can quite believe that the optimal balance of battery capacity and weight results in a significant drop in power over the course of one lap of somewhere as long as the 'ring. I suspect the battery cooling requirements at the ring are more difficult than Pike's Peak too. Despite the thicker air, it's a lot hotter and has much longer prolonged periods at full throttle. Not that we know how different this car is from the one which raced up the Peak.
Edited by kambites on Tuesday 4th June 06:00
Jellinek said:
Curious to note that it easily hits 270 kmh early on but on the final straight it was hitting around 245-250. Was this drop in performance down to headwind, gradient or perhaps battery condition? Be interested to hear from anyone familiar with the track or conditions on the day.
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