RE: BMW lifts the lid on new 625hp M8 Competition

RE: BMW lifts the lid on new 625hp M8 Competition

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191 posts

62 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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An RS5 wouldn't see which way one of these went above 60mph, don't see the comparison. As a sportier S63 it makes sense, but with that interior its a 90k car really - cant compete on ambience. wouldn't compare it to a 911

A 640d is so capable these days money is better spent on one of those and the chance on a weekend toy. Or if its a luxurious interior you want get an alpina

moffat

1,020 posts

226 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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20%+++ discounts within 12-24 month which was the norm for the previous 6 series and will be for this 8 (6) series.

Epic car though, but I still don't understand why it has rear seats. They were hard enough to use in the 6er and it this car they are even tighter!!

Would MUCH prefer an S63 AMG for the interior and much better V8.

Jasey_

4,893 posts

179 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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This thread got me looking at one of these last night biggrin


E65Ross

35,100 posts

213 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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Can I just ask those who are saying this is a 6 series, why this 8 series is any less of an 8 series than the last (E31) 8 series? Both 8s are based upon the 7 series platform I think, unlike the 6s of the past.

popeyewhite

19,948 posts

121 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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"Good looking car, isn't it?"

Reminds me of something else. A CLS? Front looks OK, back is a mess. Quite like big coupes though.

cerb4.5lee

30,724 posts

181 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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E65Ross said:
Can I just ask those who are saying this is a 6 series, why this 8 series is any less of an 8 series than the last (E31) 8 series?
For me personally the old 8 series looked a very special car and it was very different to the rest of the BMW range. I've had a F13 640d and this new 8 series just reminds me of that both inside and out(nothing wrong with that though).

This new 8 series just doesn't seem quite special enough for the money for me, and the old 8 series has possibly got my hopes up a little too much(not that I'd say no to this new one though!).

Tim bo

1,956 posts

141 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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andrewparker said:
I think it looks great, love the muscularity of the design, and the comparisons to the Mustang silhouette can only be a good thing in my eyes.
+1

A lovely looking thing.

Only saw one briefly in the flesh, and certainly was an impressive beast at a brief glance.

PHMatt

608 posts

149 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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cerb4.5lee said:
E65Ross said:
Can I just ask those who are saying this is a 6 series, why this 8 series is any less of an 8 series than the last (E31) 8 series?
For me personally the old 8 series looked a very special car and it was very different to the rest of the BMW range. I've had a F13 640d and this new 8 series just reminds me of that both inside and out(nothing wrong with that though).

This new 8 series just doesn't seem quite special enough for the money for me, and the old 8 series has possibly got my hopes up a little too much(not that I'd say no to this new one though!).
Wait until you see an 8 in the flesh.
Looks nothing like a 6, which in itself was a lovely looking thing.
The 8 just stands out more. And that's a "normal" 8 I've seen.
The M version will, like the M3/4 be more snarly and lairy.

Terminator X

15,105 posts

205 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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GreatScott2016 said:
Awful from every angle. BMW have seriously lost their way with design. Sadly people will buy it but after 3 years they’ll also say goodbye to £60k+ in depreciation!
99% of cars depreciate so this isn't really a surprise?

TX.

cerb4.5lee

30,724 posts

181 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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PHMatt said:
cerb4.5lee said:
E65Ross said:
Can I just ask those who are saying this is a 6 series, why this 8 series is any less of an 8 series than the last (E31) 8 series?
For me personally the old 8 series looked a very special car and it was very different to the rest of the BMW range. I've had a F13 640d and this new 8 series just reminds me of that both inside and out(nothing wrong with that though).

This new 8 series just doesn't seem quite special enough for the money for me, and the old 8 series has possibly got my hopes up a little too much(not that I'd say no to this new one though!).
Wait until you see an 8 in the flesh.
Looks nothing like a 6, which in itself was a lovely looking thing.
The 8 just stands out more. And that's a "normal" 8 I've seen.
The M version will, like the M3/4 be more snarly and lairy.
Yes and I am looking forward to seeing one up close and personal. I'm just not sure that BMW should have used the 8 series badging and I think that they should have stuck with the 6 series badge. Maybe I'll change my mind when I see one though.

I just find it laughable that BMW have put the 6 series badge to the monstrosity that was the old 5 series GT now. Sacrilege for me. In my ideal world this 8 would be a 6 and the 8 would be something truly desirable like the old 8 series(although that didn't sell well so I can see why BMW have gone in this direction in fairness).

Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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E65Ross said:
The whole E31 8 series was a sales disaster. Not sure why, probably cost. Yes, the "proper" 8 series that everyone on here seems to fawn over on any new 8 series thread was a sales flop.

Go figure.
I was mentioning the CSi, as you were, built for only three years due to emissions regs. It was very overpriced, costing 80 grand or so in 1993. That's about 150 grand in todays money and there weren't any PCP deals for the fur coat and no knickers brigade.

You've probably not driven an 850CSi.............?

E65Ross

35,100 posts

213 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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Touring442 said:
E65Ross said:
The whole E31 8 series was a sales disaster. Not sure why, probably cost. Yes, the "proper" 8 series that everyone on here seems to fawn over on any new 8 series thread was a sales flop.

Go figure.
I was mentioning the CSi, as you were, built for only three years due to emissions regs. It was very overpriced, costing 80 grand or so in 1993. That's about 150 grand in todays money and there weren't any PCP deals for the fur coat and no knickers brigade.

You've probably not driven an 850CSi.............?
No I haven't. Doesn't mean it was a sales success because I didn't drive it though, or even because of emission regs. in the 3 years it was for sale, it was still a sales flop, and no amount of rose-tint in anyone's spectacles can change that.

Shiv_P

2,750 posts

106 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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Vocht said:
Much alike the latest M5 Competition, this will be massively underrated but a properly fantastic car to run day to day. Great looks, abundant usable power, coupe/convertible options... the only thing not to like is the price. But as always with these types of cars, it'll be half price in 3 years time and hardly ran in!
M5 may be many things but it is not underrated

Ken Figenus

5,714 posts

118 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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Agree Shiv - we all rate M5's. Quality. This one though:

Angry Birds face + a Nicki Minaj bottom that's had a few 'upgrades' from Kahn (and I don't mean that mayor Mr President)j!

I love it - other than the huge price tag. You can get far more exclusive marques/heritage/provenance for that huge money - expect 20% off minimum after a few months too + heartbreaking residuals. Nice effort though and some people prefer 'safer' marques smile

GreatScott2016

1,196 posts

89 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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Terminator X said:
99% of cars depreciate so this isn't really a surprise?

TX.
Point well made, but losing £5k on a £10k car after a few years is more palatable shall we say than losing £60k on a £120k motor, even if you can afford it!

Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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E65Ross said:
No I haven't. Doesn't mean it was a sales success because I didn't drive it though, or even because of emission regs. in the 3 years it was for sale, it was still a sales flop, and no amount of rose-tint in anyone's spectacles can change that.
How many CSi's were sold out of interest?

E65Ross

35,100 posts

213 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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Touring442 said:
How many CSi's were sold out of interest?
1510

MX6

5,983 posts

214 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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I think this looks good overall, the shape has a muscular look. It does have a bit of a generic modern BMW look though, which doesn't make it appear to stand out as something different or special to me, considering the £120k+ price.

Also the interior looks nice and reasonably tasteful, but again it doesn't grab me as being that special for the money. I don't mind the satin blue but I associate that with an aftermarket wrap type look.

It does seem an impressive car in many way but it's not something I find myself particularly excited by. Maybe in future if they depreciate like a stone then...

Terminator X

15,105 posts

205 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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GreatScott2016 said:
Terminator X said:
99% of cars depreciate so this isn't really a surprise?

TX.
Point well made, but losing £5k on a £10k car after a few years is more palatable shall we say than losing £60k on a £120k motor, even if you can afford it!
True but people are buying £120k motors so I guess aren't that worried about "losing" £60k. Surely just the cost of owning a "nice" car if you want it from new. Savvy buyers buying after 3 years at 50% of the original cost but even then at £60k you will still lose a lot of money in depreciation.

TX.

moffat

1,020 posts

226 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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Terminator X said:
True but people are buying £120k motors so I guess aren't that worried about "losing" £60k. Surely just the cost of owning a "nice" car if you want it from new. Savvy buyers buying after 3 years at 50% of the original cost but even then at £60k you will still lose a lot of money in depreciation.

TX.
BMW's depreciation right now is terrible - brand new M5 Comp in Leeds for sale with an individual colour and £31k off list with 0%APR... insane.