RE: New AMG 2.0-litre is "most powerful ever

RE: New AMG 2.0-litre is "most powerful ever

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Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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delta0 said:
Not quite the “worlds most powerful production 2.0”
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general-pistonhea...

25 hp short
Covered already in the thread. That is not a production car. 40 of them were modified here in the UK.

That garage still has that car sitting in the showroom.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Great.

Another car that you can use 3-40% of on the road before hitting license losing speed, fantastic that they are pushing the boundaries but moving further and further from fun and engaging.

ubbs

650 posts

218 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Let’s hope they sort the gearbox out as the first generation one was absurdly poor, other than that I enjoyed the 3 years I spent in mine.

Ed Straker

221 posts

144 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Big GT said:
I know Mercedes have a long tradition for making long lasting 4 cylinder engines. but I've always been a little sceptical of the reliability of small engines pushing big power. Hence regular maintenance needed on Impreza's and evo's of old.

so has anyone got first hand experience running high miles on 300-400bhp standard 4 pots like the VAG's, A45's and Jag's 300ps etc?
Yes
52k on a GLA45
Not a murmur out of it in 3 years.
Ballistically quick in the dry, but really something else in the wet.
Utterly reliable.

Ed Straker

221 posts

144 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Reciprocating mass said:
will it have a chocolate gearbox like the last a45
hehe
Mercedes had a servicing schedule that people ignored as it was VERY expensive at a Franchise
I'm not saying that's the reason, I am saying that that's not been my experience

Ed Straker

221 posts

144 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Lord.Vader said:
Great.

Another car that you can use 3-40% of on the road before hitting license losing speed, fantastic that they are pushing the boundaries but moving further and further from fun and engaging.
I'm tempted to ask you to return to Mumsnet, but really, you use the poke in the real world at 6am on my 70 mile commute along the A*** where you can overtake safely on a derestricted road as you get 2, 3 and 4 cars behind a slow vehicle.

Everything is "too fast" these days - nobody bought a GT86 - the epitome of your argument?
BBS exist to make MX5's go faster even tho PH tells us the 1.5 is all you need?
If you want to use more of the performance, get on track?

I'm sorry, but there's no point in ranting at the tide.... it's coming in.

Deep Thought

35,839 posts

198 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Lord.Vader said:
Great.

Another car that you can use 3-40% of on the road before hitting license losing speed, fantastic that they are pushing the boundaries but moving further and further from fun and engaging.
Aye i know. Car enthusiasts wanting a car with more power than they necessarily need. Who'd have thought it eh? rolleyes

www.mumsnet.com

Deep Thought

35,839 posts

198 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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ubbs said:
Let’s hope they sort the gearbox out as the first generation one was absurdly poor, other than that I enjoyed the 3 years I spent in mine.
The gearbox in ours was great - comfort mode was where it all ended in tears. Pulling out of junctions could get you wrecked.

We ran ours in Sport and Sport plus mode 99% of the time. Race mode 1% of the time winkdriving

nuttywobbler

349 posts

63 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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I have a friend who works at Mercedes. He thinks that the S, with the ‘must have’ options fitted, will be nudging £70k.


laugh

Deep Thought

35,839 posts

198 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Ed Straker said:
Reciprocating mass said:
will it have a chocolate gearbox like the last a45
hehe
Mercedes had a servicing schedule that people ignored as it was VERY expensive at a Franchise
I'm not saying that's the reason, I am saying that that's not been my experience
Every 9,000 miles or so? Didnt seem unreasonable.

We'd a service plan on ours which worked out about £35 a month which helped spread the cost.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Ed Straker said:
Lord.Vader said:
Great.

Another car that you can use 3-40% of on the road before hitting license losing speed, fantastic that they are pushing the boundaries but moving further and further from fun and engaging.
I'm tempted to ask you to return to Mumsnet, but really, you use the poke in the real world at 6am on my 70 mile commute along the A*** where you can overtake safely on a derestricted road as you get 2, 3 and 4 cars behind a slow vehicle.

Everything is "too fast" these days - nobody bought a GT86 - the epitome of your argument?
BBS exist to make MX5's go faster even tho PH tells us the 1.5 is all you need?
If you want to use more of the performance, get on track?

I'm sorry, but there's no point in ranting at the tide.... it's coming in.
I’ve no qualms with power and regularly use my Vantage to the fullest of its capabilities, including at 5am and getting pulled over by the police on a rather spirited run to a local airport.

The point being there are so many cameras and hidden police vans about today, including putting averages cameras on a local road (evo triangle!) that you spend less time enjoying the road(s) and more focusing on the speedo.

I lived in Germany for 3 years, owned a car for two of those and got 8 speeding tickets, so I’m not in the 20mph everywhere brigade.

My MK1 MX5 was the most fun car I’ve owned, simply because it took so long to get above the limits you could actually enjoy it, A45 / M140i, etc are just point and click ... I had a run in a 650 bhp GTR, blisteringly quick and exciting, but lacked a certain engagement.

Baldchap

7,664 posts

93 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Lord.Vader said:
Great.

Another car that you can use 3-40% of on the road before hitting license losing speed, fantastic that they are pushing the boundaries but moving further and further from fun and engaging.
I'm sure they make a 1.2 for people who don't want to go fast.

Deep Thought

35,839 posts

198 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Baldchap said:
Lord.Vader said:
Great.

Another car that you can use 3-40% of on the road before hitting license losing speed, fantastic that they are pushing the boundaries but moving further and further from fun and engaging.
I'm sure they make a 1.2 for people who don't want to go fast.
Close - theres a 1.3 litre variant of the A class....

Baldchap

7,664 posts

93 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Deep Thought said:
Baldchap said:
Lord.Vader said:
Great.

Another car that you can use 3-40% of on the road before hitting license losing speed, fantastic that they are pushing the boundaries but moving further and further from fun and engaging.
I'm sure they make a 1.2 for people who don't want to go fast.
Close - theres a 1.3 litre variant of the A class....
So we're all happy. beer

Deep Thought

35,839 posts

198 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Baldchap said:
Deep Thought said:
Baldchap said:
Lord.Vader said:
Great.

Another car that you can use 3-40% of on the road before hitting license losing speed, fantastic that they are pushing the boundaries but moving further and further from fun and engaging.
I'm sure they make a 1.2 for people who don't want to go fast.
Close - theres a 1.3 litre variant of the A class....
So we're all happy. beer
hehe

And you can save ££,£££'s by doing it.

beer

ubbs

650 posts

218 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Deep Thought said:
The gearbox in ours was great - comfort mode was where it all ended in tears. Pulling out of junctions could get you wrecked.

We ran ours in Sport and Sport plus mode 99% of the time. Race mode 1% of the time winkdriving
Was referring to the gearbox lag/torque limiters in 1st and 2nd and the fact you can’t go up and down the box with the gear lever, never drove mine in comfort.

Deep Thought

35,839 posts

198 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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ubbs said:
Deep Thought said:
The gearbox in ours was great - comfort mode was where it all ended in tears. Pulling out of junctions could get you wrecked.

We ran ours in Sport and Sport plus mode 99% of the time. Race mode 1% of the time winkdriving
Was referring to the gearbox lag/torque limiters in 1st and 2nd and the fact you can’t go up and down the box with the gear lever, never drove mine in comfort.
Never found it to be horrible. Cant say i noticed it particularly.

And was happy to use the paddles.

But different strokes for different folks and all that smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Baldchap said:
Lord.Vader said:
Great.

Another car that you can use 3-40% of on the road before hitting license losing speed, fantastic that they are pushing the boundaries but moving further and further from fun and engaging.
I'm sure they make a 1.2 for people who don't want to go fast.
See my post above yours and please show me where I said I don’t want to go fast?

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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996GT3_Matt said:
Staggering progress, when you consider that the power output of the legendary 6.2L V8 was around 450-460BHP?
Only in the C-class. The W211 E63 had 507bhp, the W212 518bhp. S63 about the same I think? Then the dry-sump M159 version made up to 618bhp. Quite a long way to go to match that.

Personally, I find nothing exciting about this. Another utterly sterile boring-sounding 4-cylinder hatch... and north of £60k?! If I had that kind of money to spend on a car, I sure as hell wouldn't be looking at a 4-cylinder hatch!

RedAMG45

734 posts

160 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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So I have had two A45 the non facelift and facelift over last 4 years
The latter is different beast to first version better gear box and I went for LSD so a great package
I have had mine remapped by DMS running at 425 BHP so it is pretty fast but it makes it more fun to drive
To correct people service intervals are every 12,500 or 12 months
Its seems to be trend to bash the A45 on pistonheads but I respect Mercedes making it because it has been built by some engineers who are bonkers
I use it every day and I went with no Aero kit so you do not get every idiot racing you

I have had no issues and it never bores me