RE: All-new Mk2 Ford Escort in development

[andymadmak]

J4CKO said:

Would take this over an original RS 2000 to be fair.

Hopefully these new ones won't rot as quickly as mine did! I vividly remember the drivers door mirror, together with a sizeable section of drivers door panel detaching itself on the M5 near Bridgewater....

[aeropilot]

rampageturke said:

aeropilot said:

Greatest, and most successful rally car ever........and clearly you've never driven one on a loose surface, as if you had you wouldn't have asked such a silly question.

god fk off

Schools out again I see.......

[AmosMoses]

I think its a great idea! I suspect they will be using these shells https://www.motorsport-tools.com/brand-new-manufac...

Love to know how it will get a reg though?

[InitialDave]

aeropilot said:

Schools out again I see.......

You were being a bit bloody condescending, though, weren't you?

Edited by InitialDave on Wednesday 12th June 13:15

[InitialDave]

AmosMoses said:

I think its a great idea! I suspect they will be using these shells https://www.motorsport-tools.com/brand-new-manufac...

Love to know how it will get a reg though?

I thought they categorically stated in the article that's what they're using?

And if it's IVA'd with all new components, I would assume it gets a new reg per that year (so a 19 plate at present).

[aeropilot]

InitialDave said:

aeropilot said:

Schools out again I see.......

You were being a bit bloody condescending, though, weren't you?

No, not really, if you look at what I was replying to (and as it happens, others said the same thing, more than once, so you wonder in exasperation whether people can actually understand what's written in front of them sometimes - despite it being said over and over)

Anyway.........unlike most on here, writing armchair internet crap, I've actually owned them and abused them back in the day, albeit proper Mk1 Escort shape

[aeropilot]

InitialDave said:

AmosMoses said:

I think its a great idea! I suspect they will be using these shells https://www.motorsport-tools.com/brand-new-manufac...

Love to know how it will get a reg though?

I thought they categorically stated in the article that's what they're using?

And if it's IVA'd with all new components, I would assume it gets a new reg per that year (so a 19 plate at present).

And as such, not eligible for FIA historic events, but does means that leaves the real identity data plate rebuilds to the historic rally people, and these 'new builds' for everyone else that wants to use them on non-historic events or as a nostalgia road car if that way inclined.

I can see a market in that regard, as the money in historic rallying has pushed everything else up in price with it because of finite supply of ID's.

Shouldn't be too difficult to get these through IVA I wouldn't have thought? You aren't making a concours RS2000 road car out of one of these, so the IVA compromises won't be an issue.

[shakotan]

GroundEffect said:

Cupramax said:

PH said:

Cooking versions of the rear-driven coupe are widely acknowledged as some of the Blue Oval’s finest driving machines

Who writes this bks? its a two door saloon, not a coupe.

A 2 door saloon is pretty-much the definition of a coupe...

It isn't, coupe will have a different roof line to a 2 door saloon.



This perfectly addresses the definition.

On the left, a 4-door saloon (also available in 2-door variety.
On the right, a 2-door hatchback
In the middle, a 2-door coupe

[Hackney]

Shut up and take my money!

[G0ldfysh]

If only there was the desire and market to do this with a Viva/Firenza shell as well.
First car dreams.

[WTFWT]

aeropilot said:

leakymanifold said:

Honest question: Can someone explain to me why an ancient ford chassis is so desirable?

Greatest, and most successful rally car ever........and clearly you've never driven one on a loose surface, as if you had you wouldn't have asked such a silly question.

Lancia integrale might have something to say about that. And I know which I'd rather have.

[irocfan]

G0ldfysh said:

If only there was the desire and market to do this with a Viva/Firenza shell as well.
First car dreams.

oh mate - loads of others: Manta (1 & 2); Commodore B coupe; Vauxhall Magnum; X1/9?: Beta Coupe

[XSRally]

Absolutely Brilliant!! - anyone any idea how much ?

[J4CKO]

andymadmak said:

J4CKO said:

Would take this over an original RS 2000 to be fair.

Hopefully these new ones won't rot as quickly as mine did! I vividly remember the drivers door mirror, together with a sizeable section of drivers door panel detaching itself on the M5 near Bridgewater....

Yeah, I remember going to school in a MK1 Escort and being told to not move the mat (thick rubber) as there was a foot sized hole through to the road, car was maybe ten years old, my mates mum had a yellow base model Mk2 and that rusted before your eyes.

I would hope they galvanise them, I would want to get it treated, then lash loads of protection on and avoid rain.

[Turbobanana]

rallycross said:

I'd like to see someone build and import shells for less than £5k and then you have to build them up at home and just register them as a kit car - source all the mechanical bits yourself and chose whatever engine you fancy - is that possible in todays over-legislated world?

I'd have a high revving Jap twin cam engine and 6 speed box, mated to an LSD axle, disks all round, electric PAS, Omex ECU, custom wiring loom, the brakes suspension etc all available from motorsport specialists, interior just needs 2 competition seats, minimal dash.

That's a GT86 / BRZ, isn't it?* Why go to all the hassle of building your own?

• OK, minus the competition bits

[mat205125]

Andy83n said:

jamesson said:

AW10 said:

But presumably no chance of getting it road registered?

The article said:

one tested to IVA requirements so it can be registered for road use.

So I can do this with my* brand new DB4 GT Zagato too...Perhaps someone should let the bods at Aston Martin know

• subject to checking last night's EuroMillions result

.... if you can get it to meet the IVA requirements, then "yes you can!"

To meet IVA isn't as simple as you'd like though.

[mat205125]

irocfan said:

G0ldfysh said:

If only there was the desire and market to do this with a Viva/Firenza shell as well.
First car dreams.

oh mate - loads of others: Manta (1 & 2); Commodore B coupe; Vauxhall Magnum; X1/9?: Beta Coupe

Agree there is plenty of other candidates where we'd want the same to be available, however lets be honest .... if theres not a market for them, then no one is going to invest in tooling and infrastructure to make it happen. Certainly not at anything resembling a viable cost.

Compared to the Mini, Mk2 Escort, MGB (where shells are available), most of the above lacked the necessary sales when new, let alone today.

[dhutch]

InitialDave said:

I thought they categorically stated in the article that's what they're using?

This.

XSRally said:

Absolutely Brilliant!! - anyone any idea how much ?

It's in the article.

[dhutch]

aeropilot said:

And as such, not eligible for FIA historic events, but does means that leaves the real identity data plate rebuilds to the historic rally people, and these 'new builds' for everyone else that wants to use them on non-historic events or as a nostalgia road car if that way inclined.

I can see a market in that regard, as the money in historic rallying has pushed everything else up in price with it because of finite supply of ID's.

Shouldn't be too difficult to get these through IVA I wouldn't have thought? You aren't making a concours RS2000 road car out of one of these, so the IVA compromises won't be an issue.

Indeed. I hadn't thought about the fact it's age would prevent it competing with historics. However I guess that's largely unavoidable within the reals of the law, and finite number of remaining IDs available.


Daniel

[silvermog]

Turbobanana said:

That's a GT86 / BRZ, isn't it?* Why go to all the hassle of building your own?

• OK, minus the competition bits

If thats your fancy then Rally Prep (http://rallyprep.co.uk) are disposing of a number of their ClubSport spec rally-prepared GT86's (MOTEC, seq box, prep'ed engine, LSD, caged, seam-welded, etc) at the moment, fully built, FIA logbooked and ready to go … 25k and up …

Why build your own indeed ...