RE: All-new Mk2 Ford Escort in development
Discussion
J4CKO said:
Yeah, I remember going to school in a MK1 Escort and being told to not move the mat (thick rubber) as there was a foot sized hole through to the road, car was maybe ten years old, my mates mum had a yellow base model Mk2 and that rusted before your eyes.
I would hope they galvanise them, I would want to get it treated, then lash loads of protection on and avoid rain.
One of my Mk2 RS' had been Ziebarted ( as had another friend's car ) when new and they were both virtually rust free at 8 years old. Factory rustproofing was very poor back then I would hope they galvanise them, I would want to get it treated, then lash loads of protection on and avoid rain.
s m said:
J4CKO said:
Yeah, I remember going to school in a MK1 Escort and being told to not move the mat (thick rubber) as there was a foot sized hole through to the road, car was maybe ten years old, my mates mum had a yellow base model Mk2 and that rusted before your eyes.
I would hope they galvanise them, I would want to get it treated, then lash loads of protection on and avoid rain.
One of my Mk2 RS' had been Ziebarted ( as had another friend's car ) when new and they were both virtually rust free at 8 years old. Factory rustproofing was very poor back then I would hope they galvanise them, I would want to get it treated, then lash loads of protection on and avoid rain.
Many were shagged at the same age though it not treated with Ziebart new by the first owner. At the same age and another 50k miles more my factory black RS2000 was like a sieve, not one panel including the roof was rot free!!
ExPat2B said:
The "cooking" version of a car comes from the phrase
"now we are cooking with gas"
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/25897/...
Which was an advertising slogan from the 40's.
It is commonly used as an expression when a mundane item/task is transformed into something better.
Examples of the phrase are for example
"I put an LS1 in this Mx5 - now we are cooking with Gas !"
"This chain saw now has a V8 - now we are cooking with Gas !"
The "Cooking" version of a car is the "hotted up" version of the base model.
For example, the Golf R is the cooking version of the Golf, the Focus RS is the cooking version of the Focus.
"now we are cooking with gas"
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/25897/...
Which was an advertising slogan from the 40's.
It is commonly used as an expression when a mundane item/task is transformed into something better.
Examples of the phrase are for example
"I put an LS1 in this Mx5 - now we are cooking with Gas !"
"This chain saw now has a V8 - now we are cooking with Gas !"
The "Cooking" version of a car is the "hotted up" version of the base model.
For example, the Golf R is the cooking version of the Golf, the Focus RS is the cooking version of the Focus.
Nice try
blade7 said:
J4CKO said:
blade7 said:
'All-new MK2 Ford Escort', or look alike bitsa mongrel? At least they stopped short of describing it as an RS.
Would take this over an original RS 2000 to be fair.Its not really a pretender is it, its a remade shell, made I think from original presses ? festooned with nice bits that make quite a nice car that I would imagine is great fun, its weird as its not actually a Ford Escort but is nearer than any replica, its pretty cool but I dont have sixty grand spare to lavish on a plaything.
I will wait for them to do a Marina
Both the MK1 and MK2 Escorts were great cars in their day but it is odd to me how they have become so very desirable. Like many things there was a time when they were a few years old that they were not appreciated at all. They were and still are good to drive with the right engine but imagining a basic spec one as a thing that drove in an exciting way or has ever been desirable is really amplifying the affect of powerful rose tinted glasses.
In 1983 we used to take the absolute pi55 out of a friend who could only afford a MK1 Escort....it did have a 1.6 Mexico engine and was fast but it was not cool then like it would be now. Cool cars back then were Alfa Bertone coupes or Lancia Beta coupes etc..not a Ford.
In 1983 we used to take the absolute pi55 out of a friend who could only afford a MK1 Escort....it did have a 1.6 Mexico engine and was fast but it was not cool then like it would be now. Cool cars back then were Alfa Bertone coupes or Lancia Beta coupes etc..not a Ford.
The type 49 chassis is the best ever made, now bare with me.
Name me another chassis that can still beat modern machines today on rally and track today?
Colin McRae was faster in his mk2 than the ex wrc cars in some of his races.
Ive had 11 Mk2s and 1 mk1 escort in my time, from 1100 pop as my 1st car, through to a flat front x pack RS2000 and I loved them all.
Name me another chassis that can still beat modern machines today on rally and track today?
Colin McRae was faster in his mk2 than the ex wrc cars in some of his races.
Ive had 11 Mk2s and 1 mk1 escort in my time, from 1100 pop as my 1st car, through to a flat front x pack RS2000 and I loved them all.
J4CKO said:
Its not really a pretender is it, its a remade shell, made I think from original presses ? festooned with nice bits that make quite a nice car that I would imagine is great fun, its weird as its not actually a Ford Escort but is nearer than any replica, its pretty cool but I dont have sixty grand spare to lavish on a plaything.
Maybe you should read what Motorsport Tools say about the shell.2.5 from (presumably) a stroked 2 litre Duratec? Unless it is the V6 SVO, which would be odd in an Escort. 200bhp doesn't sound a huge specific power output for 2.5 given the Mondeo ST200 V6 was doing that in 2000. The most important thing will be how it sounds, there is no point having an Escort that sounds like a muffled shopping car with a generic 7000 rpm four.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP1W59RYfkE
I think the BDA achieved the growl partly by having the exhaust header from the front cylinder longer than the rear one? That and being able to rev to comparatively (by road car standards) insane speeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP1W59RYfkE
I think the BDA achieved the growl partly by having the exhaust header from the front cylinder longer than the rear one? That and being able to rev to comparatively (by road car standards) insane speeds.
blade7 said:
J4CKO said:
Its not really a pretender is it, its a remade shell, made I think from original presses ? festooned with nice bits that make quite a nice car that I would imagine is great fun, its weird as its not actually a Ford Escort but is nearer than any replica, its pretty cool but I dont have sixty grand spare to lavish on a plaything.
Maybe you should read what Motorsport Tools say about the shell.delmatt said:
Both the MK1 and MK2 Escorts were great cars in their day but it is odd to me how they have become so very desirable. Like many things there was a time when they were a few years old that they were not appreciated at all. They were and still are good to drive with the right engine but imagining a basic spec one as a thing that drove in an exciting way or has ever been desirable is really amplifying the affect of powerful rose tinted glasses.
In 1983 we used to take the absolute pi55 out of a friend who could only afford a MK1 Escort....it did have a 1.6 Mexico engine and was fast but it was not cool then like it would be now. Cool cars back then were Alfa Bertone coupes or Lancia Beta coupes etc..not a Ford.
I think a lot of cars that are valued highly nowadays often had their time in the shadowsIn 1983 we used to take the absolute pi55 out of a friend who could only afford a MK1 Escort....it did have a 1.6 Mexico engine and was fast but it was not cool then like it would be now. Cool cars back then were Alfa Bertone coupes or Lancia Beta coupes etc..not a Ford.
E30 M3s were down to 3.5k or 4K back 20 years ago......10 to 20 times that price now.
. My friends and I wen through a fair few Mk1 and 2 Escorts in the 80s. Mostly we wanted AVO/RS ones or Harriers or GT/Sports etc but part of the attraction for us was that if you couldn't afford an RS for £2k you could buy a 1300 2-door for a few hundred quid and build your own RS-chaser - they were easily modded and lots of second hand bits available. We never particularly lusted after an 1100 Mk1 or 1.3L Mk2 - I bought the one pictured earlier on in the thread knowing what I could bolt into the shell
It was always fun seeing what your friend might turn up with on a Saturday morning after he'd been off to buy something out the paper/Autotrader.
Guy in our village was a local rep for the Alfa Romeo club and he had some,nice little Alfas - persuaded one of my friends to get an Alfa Junior - you could buy them back then for under a grand and it was a nice little Coupé - twin cam, 5-speeds, same poke as an RS2000. It was certainly 'cool' but not fast through the gears compared to the mundane Escort ......plus a lot more cramped when we had lifts!
They're similar to the Escorts though now- £20k -> £30k and cheap ones ripe for an Alfaholics conversion for double that upwards..
Happens to a lot of cars
blade7 said:
J4CKO said:
Its not really a pretender is it, its a remade shell, made I think from original presses ? festooned with nice bits that make quite a nice car that I would imagine is great fun, its weird as its not actually a Ford Escort but is nearer than any replica, its pretty cool but I dont have sixty grand spare to lavish on a plaything.
Maybe you should read what Motorsport Tools say about the shell.people kinda asked this question but not fully so can someone help?
The design of the car is very old as such wont have the crash resistance to pedestrians / air bags etc needed by a new car.
So if its a new shell engine etc and as such new car how can it be made road legal? I realise it does a SVA check thingy but does this side step laws made for new cars mass produced??
Thanks.
P.s id love one
The design of the car is very old as such wont have the crash resistance to pedestrians / air bags etc needed by a new car.
So if its a new shell engine etc and as such new car how can it be made road legal? I realise it does a SVA check thingy but does this side step laws made for new cars mass produced??
Thanks.
P.s id love one
WTFWT said:
aeropilot said:
leakymanifold said:
Honest question: Can someone explain to me why an ancient ford chassis is so desirable?
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