RE: Nissan 370Z | Spotted

[ZX10R NIN]

Let's compare apples with apples if you want a Z4 with 20k on the clock, then you get a Z4 23i:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

or a 20i

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

I'd take the 370Z every time compared to the above, as for a Z4M Coupe:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

There's a big price difference at which point the Nismo comes into play & that's imo a very special car.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Edited by ZX10R NIN on Sunday 16th June 19:26

[unsprung]

Chestrockwell said:

A car like the 370z makes a lot more sense in the states,

+1

[Chestrockwell]

samoht said:

It's interesting how close the 370Z is on paper to the new Supra - power, weight, layout - yet it's massively cheaper and has the normally aspirated engine and manual gearbox everyone apparently wants. Would make an interesting twin test I think - I mean, I'm sure the Supra is better, but it would be enlightening to describe exactly what's better about it, and if it's worth the extra cash.

That’s a great shout! The same people moaning about the new supra not being a true supra wouldn’t look twice at a 370z despite them wanting that exact recipe

[anonymous-user]

awesome, great motors. You can almost get four of these for the price of one alpine a110, and they’ll lose far less in depreciation over the next three years...and will probably be far more reliable

[Deep Thought]

We loved ours when we had it. Relatively low depreciation and great reliability.

Ours was identical to the one the in the ad, only 2013.

[Derek Chevalier]

PorkRind said:

sidesauce said:

eally? So Honda NSX (with an engine that revved to 8000rpm. In a production car. In 1990!)? Ferrari Dino/Lancia Stratos (same engine)? Any Alfa with a Busso engine? Renault Clio V6? None of these are interesting to drive?? Really???

Edited by sidesauce on Sunday 16th June 05:31

OK so maybe i was generalising a bit. I doubt a nsx with 300 ish brake is going to set my world on fire, i've been a bit spoilt. Sorry. the alfas sound nice, but theyre really not that grunty (even the 250 brake 147 gta) .The clio on the other hand..

The NSX has a lovely engine note - a better induction noise in the cockpit than a 550, Clio V6, GT3 and M3 IMO.

[lotuslover69]

PorkRind said:

Positively dull, much like the gutless 350z before it. Test drove the 350z 300 brake model before test driving an evo, the evo won and got my money, the 'Z' didnt have the power to steer from the rear and was a bit wallowy/lardy. Hardly the accurate and nippy sprite the evo was ! This is even heavier and V6's have never really been that interesting to drive - not revvy or torquey, just better with a turbo or supercharger really. But then you'll end up with an Audi and lets be honest nobody wants an audi, always understeering, dyamically inert.. Yada yada yada.

I enjoy my Evora which has a v6, great sounding car and quick enough

[gofasterrosssco]

lotuslover69 said:

PorkRind said:

Positively dull, much like the gutless 350z before it. Test drove the 350z 300 brake model before test driving an evo, the evo won and got my money, the 'Z' didnt have the power to steer from the rear and was a bit wallowy/lardy. Hardly the accurate and nippy sprite the evo was ! This is even heavier and V6's have never really been that interesting to drive - not revvy or torquey, just better with a turbo or supercharger really. But then you'll end up with an Audi and lets be honest nobody wants an audi, always understeering, dyamically inert.. Yada yada yada.

I enjoy my Evora which has a v6, great sounding car and quick enough

No point arguing - the whole post was full the usual generalisation to start with..

[coldel]

ZX10R NIN said:

Let's compare apples with apples if you want a Z4 with 20k on the clock, then you get a Z4 23i:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

or a 20i

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

I'd take the 370Z every time compared to the above, as for a Z4M Coupe:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

There's a big price difference at which point the Nismo comes into play & that's imo a very special car.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Edited by ZX10R NIN on Sunday 16th June 19:26

Sensible post alert!

We are looking at a £13k GT car, thats a car designed more for long distance, high speed cruising. Then its being compared to rally cars, much more expensive cars etc. and concluding its no good which is just daft. At £13k this is a snip for an NA car with a V6 and some decent tech on board.

But do agree with others posting, wasn't the article meant to be about a 370z rather than a Porsche?

[JackReacher]

For me, I love that the 350 and 370z exist and offer a proper rear wheel drive experience with big engine.

They are also relatively uncommon and not German, 2 big plus points. My 350z had bags of character but wasn't the last word in handling finesse. The Cayman 2.9 that replaced it was better in every way apart from the "image" that Porsche presents to other road users.

[cerb4.5lee]

JackReacher said:

For me, I love that the 350 and 370z exist and offer a proper rear wheel drive experience with big engine.

They are also relatively uncommon and not German, 2 big plus points. My 350z had bags of character but wasn't the last word in handling finesse. The Cayman 2.9 that replaced it was better in every way apart from the "image" that Porsche presents to other road users.

I'm another one that appreciates the rarity of the 350z/370z and I like that they are a bit different to the norm. The badge stops them from selling well though, because a German car/German badge will always be far more desirable to the majority of people.

What also doesn't help is that the Nissan badge is associated to stuff like the Micra/Juke etc...so you can understand why most turn their noses up/can't take the 350z/370z seriously for sure.

The 350z/370z hasn't ever had much love on here and I find that a little bit surprising. As someone stated earlier on the thread it is a car that suits the American market far more though, whereas in the UK fuel economy/lower emissions is a far bigger priority and turbo engines and automatic gearboxes rule here.

[300bhp/ton]

Mr Tidy said:

I've always liked these, but they are a bit lardy.

And the CO2 emissions puts them in Band M after March 2006, and for me they aren't special enough to justify £555 a year in road tax!

I'd prefer a Z4M Coupe that does 0-62 in 5 seconds and has an 8,000rpm red-line, but it's great that cars like these were being built!

Doesn't the BMW weigh about the same??

Also not really a direct comparison. The BMW Z4M probably cost at least double what the 370z did, so it really ought to be better.

The Nissan seems to have retained it's value very well too, 50% in 10 years. Not many vehicles can probably claim that.

[DevonPaul]

Water Fairy said:

Problem with the Z4M Coupe is a nice one is ££££ and then there's the M tax to consider when it needs bits etc.

You're also comparing a £26k Nissan against a £43k BMW, so service etc is likely to be higher. However if the Z4MC prices continue as they have recently then they actually become quite a cheap car to own (at least that was the excuse the wife had for getting one 3 years ago).

We did look at a Nismo 370 at the time, but the boot seemed to be there for comedy value only, whereas the Z is much more useable.

[blueg33]

Every time I drive a 370z I think it feels really heavy, almost ponderous and I come away disappointed

[otolith]

blueg33 said:

Every time I drive a 370z I think it feels really heavy, almost ponderous and I come away disappointed

Was always a bit lukewarm about the 350Z we had. It made a nice noise, but the driving experience was as above. Prefer the Z4M that replaced it in every way. Neither car was particularly my sort of thing, though, my wife chose them.

[J4CKO]

I enjoyed my 350Z, it didnt feel massively fast so would hope the 370 is noticeably nippier.

They are heavy but they are robust, I was looking at Boxster S's and E46 M3's at the time and the Boxsters potential for engine issues put me off them and the E46's propensity for its boot floor unraveling and vanos maladies put me off those.

I got a low mileage 350Z for seven grand, ran it two years and sold it for seven grand, put an exhaust on it, some brake pads, gave it and oil change and put a better stereo in.

The VED is a stinger but do it monthly and just look at the difference between it and anything else you would want to drive, not a 1 litre supermini with free VED, it is perhaps £200 additional relative to something comparable.

Fuel wise, got early twenties, M135i in similar use is no better, but will do better on a motorway type journey.

I know they are similar power to the new Supra, but based on performance figures, not a million miles off but definitely slower.


As for the badge, didnt bother me one iota, to be honest its the BMW one I have more difficulty with.

[cerb4.5lee]

J4CKO said:

I enjoyed my 350Z, it didnt feel massively fast so would hope the 370 is noticeably nippier.


I know they are similar power to the new Supra, but based on performance figures, not a million miles off but definitely slower.

From what I read I don't think that you really notice any performance difference between the 350Z and 370Z. The power delivery/weight of the car doesn't help when it comes to them actually feeling fast.

I think that the new Supra will feel loads quicker than the 370Z with the extra torque and the way that the engine delivers the performance. The problem with the VQ engine in the 370Z is that max power is at 7000rpm, but the engine feels quite rough up at those revs so it doesn't really encourage you to use all the revs for me.

I do think that the 350Z/370Z sound awesome once you get rid of the standard exhaust though.

[cerb4.5lee]

300bhp/ton said:

Mr Tidy said:

I've always liked these, but they are a bit lardy.

And the CO2 emissions puts them in Band M after March 2006, and for me they aren't special enough to justify £555 a year in road tax!

I'd prefer a Z4M Coupe that does 0-62 in 5 seconds and has an 8,000rpm red-line, but it's great that cars like these were being built!

Doesn't the BMW weigh about the same??

Also not really a direct comparison. The BMW Z4M probably cost at least double what the 370z did, so it really ought to be better.

The Nissan seems to have retained it's value very well too, 50% in 10 years. Not many vehicles can probably claim that.

They do weigh very similar as you say(Z4M around 1480kg and 370Z around 1500kg). I do think that the 370Z has a way of actually feeling heavier than it actually is to drive though. Although I thought that my Z4M felt heavy but that was because I was used to a TVR.

[coldel]

The characteristic of the zed engine is to almost appear lazy, but you do make rapid progress. Lots of people with minimal use of the car will mistake it for being slower than it actually is i.e. not the mad revy shouty style of other marques.

I spent a fair bit of time on long trips in my zed, then also sat as a passenger in a fairly long hike in a Boxster S and the zed was definitely the better tool for the longer runs although dynamically the Boxster is better - but the zed never is and never meant to be a B road monster, again there is a fair bit of confusion in the market on that front.

[otolith]

300bhp/ton said:

Doesn't the BMW weigh about the same??

Similar, but they feel nothing like each other.