RE: Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 and Boxster Spyder unveiled

RE: Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 and Boxster Spyder unveiled

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anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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anonymous said:
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Somehow I doubt many McLaren owners drive around thinking, "I really wish I had an old Porsche".

Having said that, these new GT4/Spyder cars look the real business as Porsche continues to overlap its Cayman and 911 ranges around £80k. And the entry Boxster/Cayman remain fantastic cars from just £45k.

RSbandit

2,610 posts

132 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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schaeffs said:
Agree with the above on the involvement and driving points - and whilst there are a number of factors involved in what I'm about to say it does look as though it is backed up in the marketplace - a 981GT4 has retained most if not all of its original list price. The same could not be said of the 570S.
Gt4 limited run, 570s standard production car so hardly surprising it depreciates

Franzino

494 posts

160 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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RSbandit said:
Gt4 limited run, 570s standard production car so hardly surprising it depreciates
Who says the GT4 is limited run? They are going to make as many as they can when production is running. But not a pre set number like the new 991 Speedster. The production is just limited in time and will probably end when the new Cayman/Boxster is introduced.

RSbandit

2,610 posts

132 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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anonymous said:
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That's fair enough man we all like different things

RSbandit

2,610 posts

132 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Franzino said:
Who says the GT4 is limited run? They are going to make as many as they can when production is running. But not a pre set number like the new 991 Speedster. The production is just limited in time and will probably end when the new Cayman/Boxster is introduced.
Given the hoops you have to jump through to get one sure feels limited!

Franzino

494 posts

160 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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RSbandit said:
Given the hoops you have to jump through to get one sure feels limited!
Maybe in the UK...but not from my experience (see a couple of posts above).

Franzino

494 posts

160 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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RSbandit said:
Given the hoops you have to jump through to get one sure feels limited!
Maybe in the UK...but not from my experience (see a couple of posts above).

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Dinoboy said:
Dale487 said:
FpAlex said:
Never owned a Porsche and enquired about one today.

My local OPC had an allotment of 2 Cayman GT4's and 3 Spyders. Can confirm. They won't even consider selling one to you if you don't have an existing relationship with that particular OPC and even then, the director gets to choose who can buy one from the list of interested buyers.
So much for being built on the normal production line, a longer run & less restricted.
OPC Glasgow today said pretty much the same thing.
The Rolex of the car world. No thanks.

Franzino

494 posts

160 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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yonex said:
Dinoboy said:
Dale487 said:
FpAlex said:
Never owned a Porsche and enquired about one today.

My local OPC had an allotment of 2 Cayman GT4's and 3 Spyders. Can confirm. They won't even consider selling one to you if you don't have an existing relationship with that particular OPC and even then, the director gets to choose who can buy one from the list of interested buyers.
So much for being built on the normal production line, a longer run & less restricted.
OPC Glasgow today said pretty much the same thing.
The Rolex of the car world. No thanks.
Why don't you try to order a RHD car in an other country then the UK? Looks possible! I know people who ordered a new LHD BMW M3 in the UK and brought it to Belgium (and saved some serious money also). But don't know if it works for Porsche and the other way? In Belgium you can order a new GT4 with zero issues (I called the local Porsche dealer today).

Edited by Franzino on Thursday 20th June 12:36

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Franzino said:
Why don't you try to order a RHD car in an other country then the UK? Looks possible! I know people who ordered a new LHD BMW M3 in the UK and brought it to Belgium (and saved some serious money also). But don't know if it works for Porsche and the other way? In Belgium you can order a new GT4 with zero issues (I called the local Porsche dealer today).

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 20th June 12:36
Wouldn't it be classed as an import, with all the 'fun' that that brings?

nickfrog

21,170 posts

217 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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yonex said:
Wouldn't it be classed as an import, with all the 'fun' that that brings?
It's not very complicated and they're all imports anyway. Even the DVLA stopped calling them imports on the V5 many years ago. I reckon they're will be a long wait though, whether real or otherwise. LHD could be easier perhaps.

boxsey

3,574 posts

210 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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GingerMunky said:
Master Bean said:
Is this another Porsche that will be impossible to buy at a dealer?
Exactly! What's the point? Buy a Lotus or Alpine instead.
The thing is, would you still make that recommendation after an extensive drive in a GT4? I'll admit that this is not a simple task..no one will get a test drive of a new 718 GT4 before they order one and it's not easy to get a test drive of a used 981 GT4.

Dave Hedgehog

14,565 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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boxsey said:
The thing is, would you still make that recommendation after an extensive drive in a GT4? I'll admit that this is not a simple task..no one will get a test drive of a new 718 GT4 before they order one and it's not easy to get a test drive of a used 981 GT4.
you don't need a test drive when your going to stick it on pistonhead classifieds with a 50% mark up


Brent 67

8 posts

96 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Porsche dealers are no longer taking enquires on the new GT4, total allocation already sold out , surprise, surprise.

RSbandit

2,610 posts

132 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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So it is a limited run for the UK as expected

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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anonymous said:
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Precisely.

There isn't a shortage of cars, just an excess of dreamers.

ChrisW.

6,315 posts

255 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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A couple of interesting facts to stoke the argument:

1. All petrol engined sports cars are built at the same factory in Zuffenhausen ... including the GT cars and the Cup cars. Only the RSR's are but at Weissach. I saw a 718 GT4 Cup car in build whilst on a factory tour five weeks ago ... there was no shortage of questions answered !

2. I took my 918 GT4 to the weigh bridge with 90% full fuel tank, manuals, carbon seats and brakes ... an £85k car new. The weight plus or minus 20Kg's, was 1440 Kg's.


anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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rockin said:
Precisely.

There isn't a shortage of cars, just an excess of dreamers.
The topic is about new cars, not used.

isaldiri

18,592 posts

168 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Franzino said:
RSbandit said:
Given the hoops you have to jump through to get one sure feels limited!
Maybe in the UK...but not from my experience (see a couple of posts above).
People primarily want the car at UK prices which are lower than euro equivalent prices even if they could get rhd cars as for some peculiar reason people who seemingly want the car very badly simply won't countenance paying the extra EU premium to get it....

It's perceived 'free motoring' that's driving the mad scrabble of the GT cars here really.

boxsey said:
The thing is, would you still make that recommendation after an extensive drive in a GT4? I'll admit that this is not a simple task..no one will get a test drive of a new 718 GT4 before they order one and it's not easy to gdet a test drive of a used 981 GT4.
And that's actually a very irritating issue. Had I been able to test drive the 981 gt4 I'd never have ordered the car...

Edited by isaldiri on Saturday 22 June 10:55

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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yonex said:
The topic is about new cars, not used.
There is no shortage of these cars. They are simply bought by speculators with a view to selling on at a profit. They stillhave full manufacturer warranty.

All the stuff about "you can't get one" usually comes from people who haven't the slightest intention of buying an £80k car in the first place.