RE: 2020 Land Rover Defender leaked (sort of)

[Shakermaker]

Thomo97 said:

I had a 110 with a sunroof once ... that amazingly enough leaked like a sieve. Guess it may well have been an aftermarket job fashioned using only a tin opener and some plexiglass that was kicking about.

Having had two Defenders I really want a new one; I now own a Subaru and miss bonding with my local garages, spray shops and purveyors of spare parts.

The trick was to have a sealant gun with you in the car at all times to plug up the gaps like that.

[anonymous-user]

Vee12V said:

A leak? In a Defender? Glad they stayed true to the original.

We foolishly left ours with the dealer for three weeks so they could carry out a 'water ingress test' and it came back leaking worse than when it went in. Water ingress fixed <tick>

[Roger Irrelevant]

That looks really good, especially with slightly smaller wheels. The proximity of the design to the old Defender is not something I give two hoots about, but it looks pretty close to me. I could well take the plunge it they prove reliable over the next few years (i.e. I almost certainly won't be taking the plunge).

[Bob Dong]

Vee12V said:

A leak? In a Defender? Glad they stayed true to the original.

Such a great post. Lol.

[Electro1980]

milesr3 said:

Vee12V said:

A leak? In a Defender? Glad they stayed true to the original.

We foolishly left ours with the dealer for three weeks so they could carry out a 'water ingress test' and it came back leaking worse than when it went in. Water ingress fixed <tick>

Probably off factory spec for number of leaks. You did tell them you wanted less leaks?

[GranCab]

Here's another leaked photo of the 2020 Defender ( from 2005 ) .....

[robsprocket]

So still this one from months ago without the vinyl wrap?

[anonymous-user]

Electro1980 said:

You did tell them you wanted less leaks?

'course not. What would the spider do when she wanted a drink.

[The Vambo]

GranCab said:

Here's another leaked photo of the 2020 Defender ( from 2005 ) .....

[2xChevrons]

jeremy996 said:

I'm not so fussed how the bloody thing looks!

Does it leak and can it be maintained outside of the dealer network?

Is it going to cost much more than £35,000?

(Can I sell off my '89 110CSW and my '91 90 van with windows and afford a new one?)

My predicted answers to your questions in order: Yes, No, Hell Yes, Almost Certainly Not.

Shakermaker said:

Thomo97 said:

I had a 110 with a sunroof once ... that amazingly enough leaked like a sieve. Guess it may well have been an aftermarket job fashioned using only a tin opener and some plexiglass that was kicking about.

Having had two Defenders I really want a new one; I now own a Subaru and miss bonding with my local garages, spray shops and purveyors of spare parts.

The trick was to have a sealant gun with you in the car at all times to plug up the gaps like that.

When the One Ten was introduced the early examples leaked so badly that Land Rover actually produced an official tub of Dum-Dum putty in a Land/Range/Freight Rover-branded tin. It had a parts number you could get from the workshop manual and order as a 'special tool', and I think that if you took your brand new One Ten back to the dealer to complain of water leaks they handed you a tin of this stuff (called something euphemistic like Heavy Duty Monsoon Protection Paste) and told you to plug the leaks yourself.

My 1990 Ninety CSW had the factory-fit sunroof and it leaked consistently over the 14 years I owned it, regardless of how often I replaced the seal or adjusted the hinge pins to try and snug it down. I think the plastic surround on the top of the roof skin was the source and it had probably leaked ever since it was built. But it was still an improvement on my SIII Hard Top, which didn't leak but moisture would condense on the underside of the untrimmed painted metal roof and run down into the internal roof gutters, ready to rush forward the first time you braked, overflow the gutters just above the sun visors and dump either onto your lap or down your collar.

This is the 'soul' and 'character' that people talk about when they get infected with the Land Rover bug.

[Sixpackpert]

Standard springs and air suspension available.

[Bill]

2xChevrons said:

Stuff...

This is the 'soul' and 'character' that people talk about when they get infected with the Land Rover bug.

You can diagnose the source of D2 leaks depending on where the water appears out of the headlining.

[Billy_Whizzzz]

fixed it for them with steel Wolfs, flat green paint, van back and white roof. They're welcome.

[Fire99]

Looks good in its tiny picture.... Styling looks fine.

[anonymous-user]

Is anyone else not finding it slightly amusing that the Defender will have an (colour) image of the car in the dials?

I mean, the last one came with dusty (from the factory) Smiths clocks with the needle reading 10mph whilst standing still..and yet to evoke (pun, not intended) the spirit of the Defender they think a colour profile pic on the dials is going to impress Mr Farmer on a hilltop with a ewe in the boot? That's just another thing to go wrong..

[NomduJour]

PRND said:

and yet to evoke (pun, not intended) the spirit of the Defender they think a colour profile pic on the dials is going to impress Mr Farmer on a hilltop with a ewe in the boot? That's just another thing to go wrong..

Can see that you’ve never been inside a modern tractor (or pickup, for that matter).

[LaurasOtherHalf]

NomduJour said:

pickup

That’s the elephant in the room, we live rurally and the place is clogged up with twin cab pick ups, has LR lost its market share to all the other manufacturers?

I can’t see s nice spec one of these being under £30k + vat.

[oldtimer2]

That profile looks very similar to the line in the sand we were treated to a few years ago. Perhaps one of the resident Photoshop artists can oblige us with an overlay?

[NomduJour]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

I can’t see s nice spec one of these being under £30k + vat.

A higher-spec X Class (Navara in drag) is very close to £50k, Amarok the same, you can spend well over £40k on a D-Max - that’s an awful lot of money for something that costs about £2.50 to build.

[300bhp/ton]

Harry_523 said:

So you looked at that picture and thought "that looks nothing like a defender", despite it looking almost exactly like a defender?

I doubt we can answer this until we see it properly. But in answer, based on the so called "spy shots", no. It doesn't, not really.