RE: Ford Mustang Bullitt production extended
Discussion
QuattroDave said:
cib24 said:
Ok, so key things left out from the US Bullitt are:
Dash gauges
3.55 vs. 3.73 rear end final drive ratio
453 bhp vs. 475 hp (manifold change and particulate filter required in Europe)
Anything else to note?
Well looking at the interior picture of the US Bullitt you can't get heated or cooled seats either in UK spec. Recaro's only.Dash gauges
3.55 vs. 3.73 rear end final drive ratio
453 bhp vs. 475 hp (manifold change and particulate filter required in Europe)
Anything else to note?
They don’t get the central gauges as that would mean re tooling the moulds for rhd. Not worth the cost.
Eu cars get the K brace instead of strut brace for pedestrian impact regs. The diff ratio is cost again as we get the standard lsd rather than the Torsen diff. - not a big deal to be fair.
The manifold for rhd is compromised by about 5 hp- no big deal. The gpf for export cars rob performance a little more.
I have the gt350/bullitt manifold and can confirm it really opens up the usable Rev range. Build power all the way to the limited which is nice, but I feel the standard manifold is better on the road as the power comes lower down.
Still . For £500 you can have almost 500bhp with a tune. For £2k you get 550 bhp with headers and a tune.
Even stock it feels a fair bit quicker than the 4.7l Maserati mentioned- and I love maseratis!
Also rides better than the Maserati. No idea about the Lexus as I’ve not driven them back to back.
Eu cars get the K brace instead of strut brace for pedestrian impact regs. The diff ratio is cost again as we get the standard lsd rather than the Torsen diff. - not a big deal to be fair.
The manifold for rhd is compromised by about 5 hp- no big deal. The gpf for export cars rob performance a little more.
I have the gt350/bullitt manifold and can confirm it really opens up the usable Rev range. Build power all the way to the limited which is nice, but I feel the standard manifold is better on the road as the power comes lower down.
Still . For £500 you can have almost 500bhp with a tune. For £2k you get 550 bhp with headers and a tune.
Even stock it feels a fair bit quicker than the 4.7l Maserati mentioned- and I love maseratis!
Also rides better than the Maserati. No idea about the Lexus as I’ve not driven them back to back.
Edited by ducnick on Wednesday 26th June 19:57
ducnick said:
They don’t get the central gauges as that would mean re tooling the moulds for rhd. Not worth the cost.
Eu cars get the K brace instead of strut brace for pedestrian impact regs. The diff ratio is cost again as we get the standard lsd rather than the Torsen diff. - not a big deal to be fair.
The manifold for rhd is compromised by about 5 hp- no big deal. The gpf for export cars rob performance a little more.
I have the gt350/bullitt manifold and can confirm it really opens up the usable Rev range. Build power all the way to the limited which is nice, but I feel the standard manifold is better on the road as the power comes lower down.
Still . For £500 you can have almost 500bhp with a tune. For £2k you get 550 bhp with headers and a tune.
Even stock it feels a fair bit quicker than the 4.7l Maserati mentioned- and I love maseratis!
Also rides better than the Maserati. No idea about the Lexus as I’ve not driven them back to back.
Damn, even missing the strut brace and torsen diff. Strut brace is £300-400 and the diff is quite a nice item for cornering, wet roads and strength. Eu cars get the K brace instead of strut brace for pedestrian impact regs. The diff ratio is cost again as we get the standard lsd rather than the Torsen diff. - not a big deal to be fair.
The manifold for rhd is compromised by about 5 hp- no big deal. The gpf for export cars rob performance a little more.
I have the gt350/bullitt manifold and can confirm it really opens up the usable Rev range. Build power all the way to the limited which is nice, but I feel the standard manifold is better on the road as the power comes lower down.
Still . For £500 you can have almost 500bhp with a tune. For £2k you get 550 bhp with headers and a tune.
Even stock it feels a fair bit quicker than the 4.7l Maserati mentioned- and I love maseratis!
Also rides better than the Maserati. No idea about the Lexus as I’ve not driven them back to back.
Edited by ducnick on Wednesday 26th June 19:57
Can you swapnout the 3.55s in the standard diff for 4.09s or is that only possible on the 3.73 Torsen?
cib24 said:
Damn, even missing the strut brace and torsen diff. Strut brace is £300-400 and the diff is quite a nice item for cornering, wet roads and strength.
Can you swapnout the 3.55s in the standard diff for 4.09s or is that only possible on the 3.73 Torsen?
yeah you can swap the gear ratios on the standard diff too. to be fair the 3.55 works quite nicely. The standard diff is a clutched LSD and works perfectly well on the road, but I agree a torsen would be nicer for ultimate track pace. If you want to upgrade there are a few options to consider.Can you swapnout the 3.55s in the standard diff for 4.09s or is that only possible on the 3.73 Torsen?
1. Torsen T-2R
2. Quaife ATB
3. Wavetrac
Ok, so there are options if desired.
It looks like Ford changed the gear ratios in the manual transmission for the 18+ Mustang cars and therefore they are a little slower in the 1/4 mile compared to the 15-17 GT's despite the horsepower gains. Also, the A10 automatic seems to be the quickest for drag racing by at least 0.5 seconds in the 1/4 mile. No doubt not as fun and from the rental I had with the A10 the automatic isn't that smart when cruising around shuffling between gears too often.
Anyway, 4.09 gears on the GT or Bullitt and a tune seems to be the best way to go for value for money and then focus on a few choice Steeda suspension upgrades for better handling and/or launching capabilities.
It looks like Ford changed the gear ratios in the manual transmission for the 18+ Mustang cars and therefore they are a little slower in the 1/4 mile compared to the 15-17 GT's despite the horsepower gains. Also, the A10 automatic seems to be the quickest for drag racing by at least 0.5 seconds in the 1/4 mile. No doubt not as fun and from the rental I had with the A10 the automatic isn't that smart when cruising around shuffling between gears too often.
Anyway, 4.09 gears on the GT or Bullitt and a tune seems to be the best way to go for value for money and then focus on a few choice Steeda suspension upgrades for better handling and/or launching capabilities.
twing said:
QuattroDave said:
Well looking at the interior picture of the US Bullitt you can't get heated or cooled seats either in UK spec. Recaro's only.
It does have a heated steering wheel though 
The standard seats in the GT are heated and cooled, the optional Recaros (standard in the Bullitt) are not heated or cooled, so it has button blanks.
I like almost everything about these and they really do look and sound (from what I can gather from YouTube!) superb.
Am I alone though in thinking the Bullitt badges are just a tiny step too far into the obvious -slightly trying too hard?
A delete option for these (and possibly lose the red on the callipers) would make it a nigh on perfect tribute to the original. Terrific though.
Am I alone though in thinking the Bullitt badges are just a tiny step too far into the obvious -slightly trying too hard?
A delete option for these (and possibly lose the red on the callipers) would make it a nigh on perfect tribute to the original. Terrific though.
edwheels said:
I like almost everything about these and they really do look and sound (from what I can gather from YouTube!) superb.
Am I alone though in thinking the Bullitt badges are just a tiny step too far into the obvious -slightly trying too hard?
A delete option for these (and possibly lose the red on the callipers) would make it a nigh on perfect tribute to the original. Terrific though.
Really easy to fix if desired. Am I alone though in thinking the Bullitt badges are just a tiny step too far into the obvious -slightly trying too hard?
A delete option for these (and possibly lose the red on the callipers) would make it a nigh on perfect tribute to the original. Terrific though.
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