RE: The Brave Pill | TVR Tuscan Speed Six
Discussion
Equus said:
N111BJG said:
Excuse me but I think Swordfish is very mammorable owing to Holly Berry
Not memorable enough for you to remember her name properly, obviously. 
I wish I could blame auto correct for every occasion I didn’t recall a woman’s name
m4tti said:
On modern roads the handling sucks. The suspension geometry is awful.
The bottoms arm need relocating, that’s why some people have fabricated their own.
People will argue “it’s all fine”.. but against anything modern they’re pedestrian.
Perhaps. More down to the driver’s skill than the machine. To drive most modern stuff fast you don’t need any. Faster or slower, the Tuscan driver will be having a lot more fun.The bottoms arm need relocating, that’s why some people have fabricated their own.
People will argue “it’s all fine”.. but against anything modern they’re pedestrian.
Edited by m4tti on Saturday 29th June 23:44
And you guys just need to see the right black car in the metal...
A friend's son got taken to Prom in an '03 3.6 on Thursday. Judging by the comments on FB, the lady who owns it doesn't hang about! I've met her at networking events and hadn't realised there was a TVR to talk about.
As others have said, Cat C wouldn't worry me if it's been fixed properly. I doubt the owner of a dodgy car would be in the owners club and would have put up with faults for so long.
As others have said, Cat C wouldn't worry me if it's been fixed properly. I doubt the owner of a dodgy car would be in the owners club and would have put up with faults for so long.
Certainly a brave pill.
The finger followers on the engine will be a risk regardless of not being one of the early ones and you'd need to give the chassis a very good inspection. Both of those problems will easily see you into 5 digits to rectify.
I thought it was the 2005-> engines that were improved?
Amazing cars, want to go into them with your eyes fully open though as the difference between a good one and bad one can cost you as much as the car itself.
The finger followers on the engine will be a risk regardless of not being one of the early ones and you'd need to give the chassis a very good inspection. Both of those problems will easily see you into 5 digits to rectify.
I thought it was the 2005-> engines that were improved?
Amazing cars, want to go into them with your eyes fully open though as the difference between a good one and bad one can cost you as much as the car itself.
Amazing how much passion these cars still arouse!
TVRs are an event to own and drive. Those who know what they are stop and comment, those who don’t just stare! Every TVR will need basic upkeep along with any classic and if the chassis is good then the rest is electrical or mechanical- easily fixed if necessary.
Yep definitely a “brave pill” is compulsory but it is not too bad!
TVRs are an event to own and drive. Those who know what they are stop and comment, those who don’t just stare! Every TVR will need basic upkeep along with any classic and if the chassis is good then the rest is electrical or mechanical- easily fixed if necessary.
Yep definitely a “brave pill” is compulsory but it is not too bad!
dvs_dave said:
m4tti said:
On modern roads the handling sucks. The suspension geometry is awful.
The bottoms arm need relocating, that’s why some people have fabricated their own.
People will argue “it’s all fine”.. but against anything modern they’re pedestrian.
Only if you have a very very early one which were rubbish. Anything after 2001 with the revised geo and they’re sweet as a nut....especially with nitrons.The bottoms arm need relocating, that’s why some people have fabricated their own.
People will argue “it’s all fine”.. but against anything modern they’re pedestrian.
Edited by m4tti on Saturday 29th June 23:44
Either that, or you don’t know how to drive properly.
Bump steer on all roads, I could probably drive my Rover 200 faster on some b-roads. It was a mighty car though! :P
It's no exaggeration the I think about that car every other day, how sad am I?
T5OCR, where are you now?!
macky17 said:
Nope, still looks just as dull.Don't get me wrong: it's a beautiful car, and my opinion is just that - my opinion. It's just that if I was in the market for such a car I'd personally seek one out in a colour other than black (or grey, silver, white). I prefer the more eye-catching yellows, oranges, blues etc on this shape of car, with a contrasting interior.
If it was my money, that's what I'd buy. But if it was on offer for free, the correct answer would be yes, please, in any colour
I ran a 2003 3.6 from 2005 to 2011, for about 30,000 miles. Contrary to popular belief, the finger followers were absolutely fine on the later 3.6 engine, however it did suffer terribly from wear on lots of other top end parts, especially valves and guides. I cured that by spending £10k on a complete 4.3 litre rebuild, including new gearbox synchros, which were very crunchy by 30k or so. The top end issues were first diagnosed by a simple compression test, so would be easy enough to check on this car.
With the 4.3 it was an absolute monster, however the original 3.6 revved beautifully and never felt short of power. My car (like most 3.6s) had the advantage of the shorter final drive diff, which certainly helped the real world performance compared to the earlier 4.0 cars.
The other advantage of the 3.6-era Tuscan is that it inherited some of the suspension geometry changes (relocated damper mounts?) from the T350 and Tamora, although not all of the changes for the Tuscan 2. Despite that, upgrading to a set of decent dampers with better matched spring rates was probably the best thing I did to the car.
You'd only have to be brave to buy this if you were worried about how hard it would be to sell. As a keeper it looks like a bargain.
With the 4.3 it was an absolute monster, however the original 3.6 revved beautifully and never felt short of power. My car (like most 3.6s) had the advantage of the shorter final drive diff, which certainly helped the real world performance compared to the earlier 4.0 cars.
The other advantage of the 3.6-era Tuscan is that it inherited some of the suspension geometry changes (relocated damper mounts?) from the T350 and Tamora, although not all of the changes for the Tuscan 2. Despite that, upgrading to a set of decent dampers with better matched spring rates was probably the best thing I did to the car.
You'd only have to be brave to buy this if you were worried about how hard it would be to sell. As a keeper it looks like a bargain.
Turbobanana said:
macky17 said:
Nope, still looks just as dull.Don't get me wrong: it's a beautiful car, and my opinion is just that - my opinion. It's just that if I was in the market for such a car I'd personally seek one out in a colour other than black (or grey, silver, white). I prefer the more eye-catching yellows, oranges, blues etc on this shape of car, with a contrasting interior.
If it was my money, that's what I'd buy. But if it was on offer for free, the correct answer would be yes, please, in any colour
Having said that, if someone were to give me a Black Tuscan .....
Brings back happy memories, I was part of the sales team at a garage in the NW.
We used to sell these brand new and my job was taking potential customers out on test drives.
Not much compares to them for raw excitement and noise!
hey were, as pointed out, a car for a car enthusiast and people that didn't have car knowledge were shocked at the niggles.
Had many scares in them off people when they drove, ill never forget one guy asking if it was front wheel drive, or holding a door shut when the solenoid mech failed around a roundabout, or being spun 360 degrees, and so on
We used to sell these brand new and my job was taking potential customers out on test drives.
Not much compares to them for raw excitement and noise!
hey were, as pointed out, a car for a car enthusiast and people that didn't have car knowledge were shocked at the niggles.
Had many scares in them off people when they drove, ill never forget one guy asking if it was front wheel drive, or holding a door shut when the solenoid mech failed around a roundabout, or being spun 360 degrees, and so on
I've had 2 of these at the "budget" end of the purchase price range: A 1999 and a 2001 model, both in Reflex colours.
I put miles on them: 40,000 miles over 5 years, and at that level of usage they were not cheap to take care of. Both had an engine failure and both had multiple clutch slave cylinder failures. Conservatively £25,000 in repairs and maintenance went into them with reputable specialists. If you want to buy one and run it the purchase price is likely to be the thin end of the wedge.
Would I recommend doing so if you are tempted? Absolutely 100%.
I put miles on them: 40,000 miles over 5 years, and at that level of usage they were not cheap to take care of. Both had an engine failure and both had multiple clutch slave cylinder failures. Conservatively £25,000 in repairs and maintenance went into them with reputable specialists. If you want to buy one and run it the purchase price is likely to be the thin end of the wedge.
Would I recommend doing so if you are tempted? Absolutely 100%.
I had a Chimaera that I was considering p/xing for a Tuscan - the TVR I actually lusted after.
Then I ended up facing the wrong way on a slightly damp A1 'resting' against a wall and decided perhaps the Tuscan wasn't the right next step.
I still think they're jaw dropping but would I buy one? Not before other things, sadly.
Then I ended up facing the wrong way on a slightly damp A1 'resting' against a wall and decided perhaps the Tuscan wasn't the right next step.
I still think they're jaw dropping but would I buy one? Not before other things, sadly.
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff