RE: Megane RS Trophy-R full specs confirmed

[aaron_2000]

Alpinestars said:

aaron_2000 said:

Usually it's an Asian in his leased and written of A45/S3/RS3 in either white with black wheels or that dark blue and a private plate that's being ragged through Bradford. Same thought always comes into my mind - "God I hope you plant it into that lamp post". As Colin McRae said, "Straight roads are for fast cars, turns are for fast drivers".

Jealousy is so ugly.

I'm jell af. That's why I pointed out the only people I ever see driving them. Jealous McGee, that's me.

But no. I'm really not. As I've made clear countless times, I despise new cars. I also despise the cockwombles that I described who rag them at stupid speeds in built up areas. If that's "ugly jealousy", then oh well.

Edited by aaron_2000 on Saturday 6th July 09:27

[gigglebug]

aaron_2000 said:

Usually it's an Asian in his leased and written of A45/S3/RS3.... Same thought always comes into my mind - "God I hope you plant it into that lamp post".

That's why I pointed out the only people I ever see driving them.... I also despise the cockwombles that I described..... If that's "ugly jealousy", then oh well.

Sounds more like casual racism to me to be honest.

aaron_2000 said:

As I've made clear countless times, I despise new cars.

And yet here you are on a website who's content consists of many articles about new cars?

[DoubleD]

aaron_2000 said:

I'm jell af. That's why I pointed out the only people I ever see driving them. Jealous McGee, that's me.

But no. I'm really not. As I've made clear countless times, I despise new cars. I also despise the cockwombles that I described who rag them at stupid speeds in built up areas. If that's "ugly jealousy", then oh well.

Edited by aaron_2000 on Saturday 6th July 09:27

What is it about new cars that you despise?

[Alpinestars]

aaron_2000 said:

I'm jell af. That's why I pointed out the only people I ever see driving them. Jealous McGee, that's me.

But no. I'm really not. As I've made clear countless times, I despise new cars. I also despise the cockwombles that I described who rag them at stupid speeds in built up areas. If that's "ugly jealousy", then oh well.

Edited by aaron_2000 on Saturday 6th July 09:27

And you drive a Focus st and a Subaru. Cars that others might say are driven by cockwombles in their part of the country.

[CraigV6]

Deary me, has this Megane gone so fast that it’s caused the thread to go back in time 30 years.......

[Onehp]

IanJ9375 said:

Pommy said:

What would be impressive?

A Ford Escort Cosworth weighs 1275kg

A Nissan Sunny GTiR weighs 1225kg

A Peugeot 306 gti6 weights 1212kg

And they were from 20-30 yrs ago

1300kg from a road going hatch with 300bhp is very impressive.

Crash in one of the above at a reasonable pace and you'd wished you had the modern car I'd expect

Also Car Magazine and Evo both have the Escort Cosworth weighing 1418kg
I'd expect the 1275kg weight you have is from a dry driverless car

https://www.evo.co.uk/ford/focus-rs/14157/ford-foc...
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/ford/esc...

Found the Sunny at 1270kg weighed. Also they are down significantly on power and torque, to oem standards that means everything in the drivetrain and chassis must be stronger and thus heavier. No, the Renault is very light, especially since its one, one and a half even, size larger than mentioned cars.

Even when not considering safety, for the same equipment, power and size, older cars are usually heavier by some margin... even more so if they would have anywhere near similar (passive) safety levels

Edited by Onehp on Saturday 6th July 12:11

[The Vambo]

Onehp said:

Found the Sunny at 1270kg weighed... since its one, one and a half even, size larger than mentioned cars.

Good point. Without looking, I bet this Megane is more comparable in size to a Primera GT than a Sunny.

Edit after looking.

P11 Primera, 4481mm x 1747mm x 1372mm.

Mégane IV, 4359mm x 1814mm x 1447 mm.

Not impressive? Bloody ignorance more like.

Edited by The Vambo on Saturday 6th July 12:23

[Baldchap]

aaron_2000 said:

As I've made clear countless times, I despise new cars.

All cars were new once. Did you hate them all at one time? Do you hate them to a certain age and then they're ok, or you despise new cars as a concept because they're expensive, in which case do you actually despise expensive cars? Or do you despise them because modern cars are (in your view) worse than old ones?

I'm thoroughly interested in the rationale behind that statement.

[RSTurboPaul]

nickfrog said:

Alpinestars said:

aaron_2000 said:

Usually it's an Asian in his leased and written of A45/S3/RS3 in either white with black wheels or that dark blue and a private plate that's being ragged through Bradford. Same thought always comes into my mind - "God I hope you plant it into that lamp post". As Colin McRae said, "Straight roads are for fast cars, turns are for fast drivers".

Jealousy is so ugly.

It is. I have no issues with A45 or RS3 drivers and don't recognise those arbitrary stereotypes. Quoting McRae is cringe worthy considering the events that lead to his death and those he killed in the process.

I'm slightly confused - he died in (and was blamed for) a helicopter crash, rather than in a car?

[SidewaysSi]

gigglebug said:

aaron_2000 said:

Usually it's an Asian in his leased and written of A45/S3/RS3.... Same thought always comes into my mind - "God I hope you plant it into that lamp post".

That's why I pointed out the only people I ever see driving them.... I also despise the cockwombles that I described..... If that's "ugly jealousy", then oh well.

Sounds more like casual racism to me to be honest.

aaron_2000 said:

As I've made clear countless times, I despise new cars.

And yet here you are on a website who's content consists of many articles about new cars?

Aaron spouts st again. Given he is about 19 he does talk as though he knows more than he does. Which is feck all.

Need to send those Asians back to where they came from don't we little Aary?

[RemyMartin81D]

RSTurboPaul said:

I'm slightly confused - he died in (and was blamed for) a helicopter crash, rather than in a car?

I think he is saying, man who made a very bad decision and caused his and others deaths is therefore by association, a for his entire life and everything good is automatically cancelled out.

Colin was a tool on the day he and other met his death, however I don't buy he is the social pariah as a result that some like to bang on about.

[gigglebug]

SidewaysSi said:

Aaron spouts st again. Given he is about 19 he does talk as though he knows more than he does. Which is feck all.

Need to send those Asians back to where they came from don't we little Aary?

Well, he's not been back since. Presumably he has been too busy conducting a one man protest outside a new car dealership that caters for ethnic minorities.

[gigglebug]

I like that fact that the exhaust has gone back to exiting from within the diffuser. It's a detail that I really liked on Clio 197 missed when it was altered for the 200.

[mat205125]

Onehp said:

IanJ9375 said:

Pommy said:

What would be impressive?

A Ford Escort Cosworth weighs 1275kg

A Nissan Sunny GTiR weighs 1225kg

A Peugeot 306 gti6 weights 1212kg

And they were from 20-30 yrs ago

1300kg from a road going hatch with 300bhp is very impressive.

Crash in one of the above at a reasonable pace and you'd wished you had the modern car I'd expect

Also Car Magazine and Evo both have the Escort Cosworth weighing 1418kg
I'd expect the 1275kg weight you have is from a dry driverless car

https://www.evo.co.uk/ford/focus-rs/14157/ford-foc...
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/ford/esc...

Found the Sunny at 1270kg weighed. Also they are down significantly on power and torque, to oem standards that means everything in the drivetrain and chassis must be stronger and thus heavier. No, the Renault is very light, especially since its one, one and a half even, size larger than mentioned cars.

Even when not considering safety, for the same equipment, power and size, older cars are usually heavier by some margin... even more so if they would have anywhere near similar (passive) safety levels

Edited by Onehp on Saturday 6th July 12:11

We also forget to compare old versus new, with regards to suspension, brakes, and wheel/tyre sizes, not to mention additional parts essential for modern compliance.

Any of the above are fantastic cars, however will have cooked their brakes and overheated their tyres mid-way around their first flying lap of the ring, if driven as hard as the Megane can take for lap after lap.

[Baldchap]

mat205125 said:

Any of the above are fantastic cars, however will have cooked their brakes and overheated their tyres mid-way around their first flying lap of the ring, if driven as hard as the Megane can take for lap after lap.

You'd also have finished your brew waiting for them to finish even if they did make it round unscathed.

[JamesyBoy1975]

Harry_523 said:

To answer any back seat/4 door related questions.


What a mad car, whats the betting these chassis improvements, and the removal of 4ws will come on the facelift of the regular car?

A couple of ISOfix points and I 'might' be able to convince the missus this is the perfect family hatch...

[Alex_225]

It's a very cool car and let's be honest, they'll sell about five of them in the UK but that's not the point. The whole purpose of the last Megane .R was to be the fasted FWD car round the 'ring and it was.

Despite there only being a handful of them sold, there was less car for a higher price yet it was faster and very highly regarded.

Setting a benchmark is what the .R Meganes are all about and it puts RenaultSport back in the forefront.

[gigglebug]

Harry_523 said:

To answer any back seat/4 door related questions.


What a mad car, whats the betting these chassis improvements, and the removal of 4ws will come on the facelift of the regular car?

Presumably the cross beam just hasn't been integrated into the chassis as well as it would need to be structurally to allow the harnesses to be fixed to it? Would it not have been the obvious choice to position them otherwise?

[PaulJC84]

JamesyBoy1975 said:

A couple of ISOfix points and I 'might' be able to convince the missus this is the perfect family hatch...

Thats what a friend did with his Clubsport S. Stuck the baby seat in the back using the ISOfix.

[zeta3]

car in its full road rage road racing form is mental..

but the price is even more mental

seriously, 50 / 60 k for a 2 seats 4 doors Mégane???