RE: Ford Capri 2.8 | Spotted

RE: Ford Capri 2.8 | Spotted

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blade7

11,311 posts

217 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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VR6 Eug said:
The golf gti mk1.8 could hit 60 in 8.1 sec and 100 mph in 23.5

The 5 speed 2.8i was 60 8.2sec and 100 mph in 26.5 sec, the 3.0l could do 60 in 9 sec and 100 mph in 30sec, my memory isnt broken just yet.

Ive spoke to a friend today as he had a 2.8i special when I had mine and he remembers the same as me, we got left by the faster hot hatchs of the time, we both aren't wrong for all the rose tinted Capri lovers.
My memory isn't broken either, no hot hatches of the time left my 2.8 Injection 30 years ago.

Mr Tidy

22,444 posts

128 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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blade7 said:
VR6 Eug said:
The golf gti mk1.8 could hit 60 in 8.1 sec and 100 mph in 23.5

The 5 speed 2.8i was 60 8.2sec and 100 mph in 26.5 sec, the 3.0l could do 60 in 9 sec and 100 mph in 30sec, my memory isnt broken just yet.

Ive spoke to a friend today as he had a 2.8i special when I had mine and he remembers the same as me, we got left by the faster hot hatchs of the time, we both aren't wrong for all the rose tinted Capri lovers.
But the road test quoted in the previous page shows the 4 speed 2.8i doing 0-60 in 7.9 seconds, 0-100 in 23.4 and a top speed of 130 mph - so in simple terms the 1.8 GTi just wasn't as quick!

And as bad as Capri brakes were, MK1 Golf GTi brakes were just hopeless. banghead

I had a 1980 Golf Gti 1600 and liked it, but it wasn't a patch on my Capri 2.8is - or my MK2 RS2000!

But my 1986 MK2 Golf GTi 16V was quicker than any of them, even if the RS2000 was by far the most fun to throw around. laugh




irish boy

3,538 posts

237 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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V1nce Fox said:
I remember taking on an astra get 16v with my 2.8i and getting my arse completely handed to me.
Those were properly quick. Especially the early ones.

s m

23,254 posts

204 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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irish boy said:
V1nce Fox said:
I remember taking on an astra get 16v with my 2.8i and getting my arse completely handed to me.
Those were properly quick. Especially the early ones.
I had a non-cat one, Coscast head and they were indeed pretty rapid - quicker than the standard 2.8i certainly and a 325 Sport......but then they were the same ( or a few more bhp ) poke as the Capri in a much lighter car.

Surprised at some of the hatches mentioned though - my 1800 gti would never have matched a 1.9 205 to the ton ( 23 seconds to 100 ). The Swift gti must have been pretty healthy too to have the drop on a 180bhp Capri off the lights. Have to get some phone app times for the 280 at the weekend

carinaman

21,331 posts

173 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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CAR Magazine piece on taking the 2.8i and GTV6 to Exmoor with stunning photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/triggerscarstuff/alb...

Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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GTEYE said:
As far as I know there was never a 2,0 V6, a 3.0 for sure and Europe got a 2.3 V6....but the 2.0 was a 4 pot Pinto engine.

£30k seems a bit steep to me if not a ‘280’ but if someone buys it it looks a good example.
There was indeed a 2.0 V6 in Europe with the Cologne engine.

carinaman

21,331 posts

173 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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Touring442 said:
GTEYE said:
As far as I know there was never a 2,0 V6, a 3.0 for sure and Europe got a 2.3 V6....but the 2.0 was a 4 pot Pinto engine.

£30k seems a bit steep to me if not a ‘280’ but if someone buys it it looks a good example.
There was indeed a 2.0 V6 in Europe with the Cologne engine.
Wikipedia says it was even made as a 1.8 I didn't know that.

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

282 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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s m said:
I used to love these charts in car magazines as a child .. why can't they do the same now?

cerb4.5lee

30,756 posts

181 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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Jonny TVR said:
s m said:
I used to love these charts in car magazines as a child .. why can't they do the same now?
Autocar still do this now when they fully road test a car. smile

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

282 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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cerb4.5lee said:
Autocar still do this now when they fully road test a car. smile
I should start buying it then .. instead of the poncey ones I end up buying at airports!

Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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I knew a guy years ago, a very handy driver who raced stock cars and he had about three V6 Capris in a row - a black 3.0S (CBL652V sticks in my mind) and a couple of 2.8i's. Early nineties and these were followed on by a couple of E30 325i Sports which he said was the real replacement for the V6 Capri where hairy, arse out motoring was concerned.

My auld man had one almost new in 1980, a 1979 T plate 3.0S in black with Fishnet Recaro seats, Bilstein suspension and the X Pack 4 spoke RS wheels under standard arches. I'm trying to recall the reg number but it came from Whites in Taunton who were a Ford Rallye Sport dealer.

Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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carinaman said:
Wikipedia says it was even made as a 1.8 I didn't know that.
You could get a 1300 V4 as well in the Mark 1.

AC43

11,498 posts

209 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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carinaman said:
CAR Magazine piece on taking the 2.8i and GTV6 to Exmoor with stunning photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/triggerscarstuff/alb...
That's the very test I was talking about further up the thread. I remember it clearly.

No surprise that they call out the gearchange on the GTV6. Ford had a great rep for their RWD gearboxes at the time, Alfa really struggled with the linkages back to the transaxle. God knows why given that VW had given the tear engined Beetle a proper gearchange 40 years earlier.



V8covin

7,333 posts

194 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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I was a 3 litre Capri nut in the 80's and early 90"s......also had a V4 2000 GT.
I had 2 3000E MK1s and probably a dozen 3 litres in total including 3 x-packs,1 of which also had a Janspeed turbo.
A mate had a Tickford.
Drove a mk2 3 litre a couple of years ago for the 1st time since those days and what a turd it was lol

A1VDY

3,575 posts

128 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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sideways man said:
The mk1 2.0 v4 was a real boat anchor-asthmatic,heavy and prone to head gasket failure. One of Fords poor engines. Replacing it with the 2.0 pinto improved the model massively.
One of my motoring regrets was not getting a mk1 3.0, when they regularly sold for £800.
You're right ref the standard v4 but my father bought a 2litre gt with the v4 (72 Mk1) which had a blueprinted and balanced bottom end, ported heads and fast road cam. It had a re jetted twin choke weber. It was never a smooth idle but revved well and was reasonably quick. It would have no doubt put out a little more power had it not been for the standard cast exhaust manifolds but from what I can remember there was little else available at the time..

J4CKO

41,646 posts

201 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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Jonny TVR said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Autocar still do this now when they fully road test a car. smile
I should start buying it then .. instead of the poncey ones I end up buying at airports!
I have been getting it since 1987, stuck with it now, part of the same thing as PH isnt it ?

I save them for my dad, take them round and then dont hear a peep out of him !

t9211

14 posts

85 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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Interesting to see the screws exposed that fix the headlight surround and rear lights. Recall how much fun that was replacing bulbs on a similar car.

aeropilot

34,690 posts

228 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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carinaman said:
Touring442 said:
GTEYE said:
As far as I know there was never a 2,0 V6, a 3.0 for sure and Europe got a 2.3 V6....but the 2.0 was a 4 pot Pinto engine.

£30k seems a bit steep to me if not a ‘280’ but if someone buys it it looks a good example.
There was indeed a 2.0 V6 in Europe with the Cologne engine.
Wikipedia says it was even made as a 1.8 I didn't know that.
Where....?

I see no mention of a 1.8 engine?

Which isn't a surprise given the only 'production' engine (if you can call it that) that Ford offered during the Capri's life was the 1.8 BDA in the RS1800, and the 1.8 BDT in the RS200.

V8covin

7,333 posts

194 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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A1VDY said:
You're right ref the standard v4 but my father bought a 2litre gt with the v4 (72 Mk1) which had a blueprinted and balanced bottom end, ported heads and fast road cam. It had a re jetted twin choke weber. It was never a smooth idle but revved well and was reasonably quick. It would have no doubt put out a little more power had it not been for the standard cast exhaust manifolds but from what I can remember there was little else available at the time..
I'm pretty sure the V4 in the Capri had tubular exhaust manifolds as standard,they were cast in the Transit,Corsair etc

aeropilot

34,690 posts

228 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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V8covin said:
A1VDY said:
You're right ref the standard v4 but my father bought a 2litre gt with the v4 (72 Mk1) which had a blueprinted and balanced bottom end, ported heads and fast road cam. It had a re jetted twin choke weber. It was never a smooth idle but revved well and was reasonably quick. It would have no doubt put out a little more power had it not been for the standard cast exhaust manifolds but from what I can remember there was little else available at the time..
I'm pretty sure the V4 in the Capri had tubular exhaust manifolds as standard,they were cast in the Transit,Corsair etc
I have a vague recollection that the 2.0 V4 in the Corsair 2000E had tubular manifold as well.....?

Smaller capacity Corsair V4's deffo had cast 'log type' manifolds.