Bad crash at my local boy racer meet
Discussion
Because things exist for you to use your car on, if your too tight to go on then and expect free stuff that's that's your call. Niche part of society will not get millions spent on them. It's not really a civil liberty to ask people to confirm in the society they live in. These meets are anti social , expect removal of freedoms not increases if this sort of thing goes on unchecked.
Oh last time I checked the lawmakers and politicians of this country are old
s who have already made their mind up. So we are all out of luck in that respect.
Oh last time I checked the lawmakers and politicians of this country are old
s who have already made their mind up. So we are all out of luck in that respect. Driver101 said:
Unless your council is different from most they are probably skint.
Why would they prioritise a large amount of money to a tiny amount of people? You tax contributions won't come close to the cost of having a car park suitable for car events.
Why would they actively encourage antisocial driving into their council anyway? My local council and police detest the boy racer meeting that come here due to the amount of issues It causes.
Im trying to provide a solution that helps all. Please don’t make this harder than it needs to be. Why would they prioritise a large amount of money to a tiny amount of people? You tax contributions won't come close to the cost of having a car park suitable for car events.
Why would they actively encourage antisocial driving into their council anyway? My local council and police detest the boy racer meeting that come here due to the amount of issues It causes.
You can’t get rid of boy racers, no matter how much YOU or the COUNCIL hate them.
The designated area policy would help the below...
- Makes house residents happy that there aren’t boy racers racing down their road.
- Takes boy racer meets away from main roads. Innocent people can no longer be hurt when passing by.
- All people in a designated area have accepted responsibly and no innocent drivers/bystanders passing by will be near the meet.
marksx said:
RemyMartin81D said:
In other news, 19 year old try hard, thinks he knows more than people with double if not triple his life experiences.
Why should the council provide something? In your own words you work hard, so why not go on a track day where you can drive as hard as you want, I mean you have the funds....from working hard.
fWhy should the council provide something? In your own words you work hard, so why not go on a track day where you can drive as hard as you want, I mean you have the funds....from working hard.
king hell. What a condescending post. In other news. Old bloke thinks he's seen everything.
To be honest, it's nigh on impossible to stop these events so the OPs suggestion seems a sensible way to give a level of safety - for both participants and the general public.
It will likely cost. But what doesn't.
GEllisM4 said:
Naturally, like any spectator event. Golf, tennis, cricket, there are some bad apples that take it a little too far and make it a bit more dangerous than it should be. Not checking when coming out of junctions in this case...
Not many. Why should everyone be punished for a motor incident? People of all ages crash their cars everyday.
Hope this will get everyone to have a little think for a moment...
There is so much ‘stupid’ in your post but let’s just highlight the above that doesn’t require any explanation as to its level of stupidity.Not many. Why should everyone be punished for a motor incident? People of all ages crash their cars everyday.
Hope this will get everyone to have a little think for a moment...
GEllisM4 said:
Im trying to provide a solution that helps all. Please don’t make this harder than it needs to be.
You can’t get rid of boy racers, no matter how much YOU or the COUNCIL hate them.
The designated area policy would help the below...
- Makes house residents happy that there aren’t boy racers racing down their road.
- Takes boy racer meets away from main roads. Innocent people can no longer be hurt when passing by.
- All people in a designated area have accepted responsibly and no innocent drivers/bystanders passing by will be near the meet.
Council don't want a solution just an end. They won't be able, too few police etc on ground, delapidated funds. They certainly will not build a big carpark. Too many variables aswell such as it would need constant supervision, I can't imagine it will a Utopia where everyone obeys the law and it would need to be miles away from anyone as such to not annoy the millions of people who don't like limiters bouncing constantly.You can’t get rid of boy racers, no matter how much YOU or the COUNCIL hate them.
The designated area policy would help the below...
- Makes house residents happy that there aren’t boy racers racing down their road.
- Takes boy racer meets away from main roads. Innocent people can no longer be hurt when passing by.
- All people in a designated area have accepted responsibly and no innocent drivers/bystanders passing by will be near the meet.
GEllisM4 said:
Im trying to provide a solution that helps all. Please don’t make this harder than it needs to be.
You can’t get rid of boy racers, no matter how much YOU or the COUNCIL hate them.
The designated area policy would help the below...
- Makes house residents happy that there aren’t boy racers racing down their road.
- Takes boy racer meets away from main roads. Innocent people can no longer be hurt when passing by.
- All people in a designated area have accepted responsibly and no innocent drivers/bystanders passing by will be near the meet.
Basically what you're describing sounds like most tracks and motorsport facilities. You can’t get rid of boy racers, no matter how much YOU or the COUNCIL hate them.
The designated area policy would help the below...
- Makes house residents happy that there aren’t boy racers racing down their road.
- Takes boy racer meets away from main roads. Innocent people can no longer be hurt when passing by.
- All people in a designated area have accepted responsibly and no innocent drivers/bystanders passing by will be near the meet.
They already exist and need customers.
There is your simple solution.
Most council's can't afford to provide the basics and essentials (social care, schools, refuse collection etc) so I think we're a long way off from expecting them to lay on facilities for employed adults with plenty of disposable income.
They may be interested from a commercial aspect if such a venue was run as a business for profit. But then it would unlikely be free to use unless there were some very generous private investors.
There's nothing wrong with people enjoying cars as long as the 'enjoyment' doesn't impact on others. Even 1 stupidly loud car with no audience dribbling over it in potentially harm's way, is anti social.
If your next door neighbour was a firework enthusiast who made his own fireworks and liked to set them off late at night, he would soon be slapped with an ASBO or similar. Yet, it's his hobby, his passion. People like to watch his displays and talk about the craftsmanship of his creations. Maybe the council should provide him and like-minded pyros with a suitable venue to indulge his passion?
They may be interested from a commercial aspect if such a venue was run as a business for profit. But then it would unlikely be free to use unless there were some very generous private investors.
There's nothing wrong with people enjoying cars as long as the 'enjoyment' doesn't impact on others. Even 1 stupidly loud car with no audience dribbling over it in potentially harm's way, is anti social.
If your next door neighbour was a firework enthusiast who made his own fireworks and liked to set them off late at night, he would soon be slapped with an ASBO or similar. Yet, it's his hobby, his passion. People like to watch his displays and talk about the craftsmanship of his creations. Maybe the council should provide him and like-minded pyros with a suitable venue to indulge his passion?
xx99xx said:
Most council's can't afford to provide the basics and essentials (social care, schools, refuse collection etc) so I think we're a long way off from expecting them to lay on facilities for employed adults with plenty of disposable income.
They may be interested from a commercial aspect if such a venue was run as a business for profit. But then it would unlikely be free to use unless there were some very generous private investors.
There's nothing wrong with people enjoying cars as long as the 'enjoyment' doesn't impact on others. Even 1 stupidly loud car with no audience dribbling over it in potentially harm's way, is anti social.
If your next door neighbour was a firework enthusiast who made his own fireworks and liked to set them off late at night, he would soon be slapped with an ASBO or similar. Yet, it's his hobby, his passion. People like to watch his displays and talk about the craftsmanship of his creations. Maybe the council should provide him and like-minded pyros with a suitable venue to indulge his passion?
Ah yes. That's the same. They may be interested from a commercial aspect if such a venue was run as a business for profit. But then it would unlikely be free to use unless there were some very generous private investors.
There's nothing wrong with people enjoying cars as long as the 'enjoyment' doesn't impact on others. Even 1 stupidly loud car with no audience dribbling over it in potentially harm's way, is anti social.
If your next door neighbour was a firework enthusiast who made his own fireworks and liked to set them off late at night, he would soon be slapped with an ASBO or similar. Yet, it's his hobby, his passion. People like to watch his displays and talk about the craftsmanship of his creations. Maybe the council should provide him and like-minded pyros with a suitable venue to indulge his passion?
GEllisM4 said:
SOL111 said:
Of course I have but doing 70mph whilst putting people's lives in danger is way beyond what one would consider 'being young once'.
Sorry but you've got no argument here.
Are you trying to imply that because you think you’re correct and I’m wrong that I have no reason to be commenting on here? Sorry but you've got no argument here.
Using classic PH logic, you’ve admitted to speeding. You were putting lives in danger.
The fact that you're trying to equate general speeding with consciously doing 70 in a 40 with bystanders on the roadside is desperation on your part.
I get kids want to have fun. I've a daughter of your age so completely get it. She likes having fun and I've no issue with this. However attempting to justify or sympathise with actions leading to multiple injuries/near death is showing you up.
unbiased said:
Agreed.
To be honest, it's nigh on impossible to stop these events so the OPs suggestion seems a sensible way to give a level of safety - for both participants and the general public.
It will likely cost. But what doesn't.
Yes, thank you. That’s what I’ve been trying to get at. To be honest, it's nigh on impossible to stop these events so the OPs suggestion seems a sensible way to give a level of safety - for both participants and the general public.
It will likely cost. But what doesn't.
Separate the general public from car lovers who can enjoy their cars in a designated space.
Sadly as suggested by another poster about going to SantaPod or a race track, sadly neither me or lots of other people live near Santapod or any other race tracks/raceways so they aren’t really a viable alternative.
SantaPod is around 3 hours away from me and the nearest racetrack (that I’m aware of) is Donington which is around 2 hours away
unbiased said:
Agreed.
To be honest, it's nigh on impossible to stop these events so the OPs suggestion seems a sensible way to give a level of safety - for both participants and the general public.
It will likely cost. But what doesn't.
It's nigh on impossible to stop young people knifing each other and shooting each other.To be honest, it's nigh on impossible to stop these events so the OPs suggestion seems a sensible way to give a level of safety - for both participants and the general public.
It will likely cost. But what doesn't.
Should we set up an area for that to happen too?
There already are perfectly decent, safely organised, away from the general public, events organised by the MSA should you want to compete against others. These vary from multiple vehicle events like races to one at a time events like hillclimbs, sprints, drag races etc
MSA is one, or Spedeworth or BRISCA too if you fancy stock car racing.
Skyedriver said:
unbiased said:
Agreed.
To be honest, it's nigh on impossible to stop these events so the OPs suggestion seems a sensible way to give a level of safety - for both participants and the general public.
It will likely cost. But what doesn't.
It's nigh on impossible to stop young people knifing each other and shooting each other.To be honest, it's nigh on impossible to stop these events so the OPs suggestion seems a sensible way to give a level of safety - for both participants and the general public.
It will likely cost. But what doesn't.
Should we set up an area for that to happen too?
There already are perfectly decent, safely organised, away from the general public, events organised by the MSA should you want to compete against others. These vary from multiple vehicle events like races to one at a time events like hillclimbs, sprints, drag races etc
MSA is one, or Spedeworth or BRISCA too if you fancy stock car racing.
I don't fancy any of that, but I'm not attending these events.
The OP has proposed a solution. It may have legs, it may not.
Tracks are all well and good, but they're a distance away, they cost a lot, and often require a day off work. Hence why 'cruises' happen.
Julian Thompson said:
GEllisM4 said:
After reading a couple of pages of this forum, it shocks me how anti car community this forum has become.
I’m 19 and honestly I don’t believe anyone on this forum remembers being a teenager. I own a powerful car for my age and have driven many other powerful cars, however I am not stupid when it comes to car events.
When going to these meets, I go to see friends and look/hear other people’s cars. The amounts of friends I have made at these meets is unbelievable. Great way to meet new people and see new builds and cars.
Naturally, like any spectator event. Golf, tennis, cricket, there are some bad apples that take it a little too far and make it a bit more dangerous than it should be. Not checking when coming out of junctions in this case...
I do think the council should provide an area where likeminded people can share there passion for cars... Disused car park, why not make it into an organised event the police won’t raid every weekend? Organised properly with volunteer Marshall’s telling cars when they are allowed to race up the strip or not... just throwing it out there as an idea.
If anyone has the guts to tell me on this forum that they’ve never as a young person, wanted to show people their car and let people hear their new golf R etc, you’re a liar. Wouldn’t be on this forum or not.
I do think some people when they hit a certain age forget about being young, and begin to hate on the young. ‘Stupid 4 cylinders’ ‘leased golf R’ ‘S3 fart box’
Yes people enjoy their cars now and some people take it too far sometimes, however this event does not warrant meets being faced with £2000 fines for attending as I think mentioned above.
I work hard through the week to be able to pay for everything I have, and on a weekend I owe it to myself to enjoy my things and my car with friends.
Think about how many meets will go on EVERY night in England. How many deaths has there been this year???
Not many. Why should everyone be punished for a motor incident? People of all ages crash their cars everyday.
Hope this will get everyone to have a little think for a moment...
I think it’s great to hear the view of someone younger. Thanks for posting.I’m 19 and honestly I don’t believe anyone on this forum remembers being a teenager. I own a powerful car for my age and have driven many other powerful cars, however I am not stupid when it comes to car events.
When going to these meets, I go to see friends and look/hear other people’s cars. The amounts of friends I have made at these meets is unbelievable. Great way to meet new people and see new builds and cars.
Naturally, like any spectator event. Golf, tennis, cricket, there are some bad apples that take it a little too far and make it a bit more dangerous than it should be. Not checking when coming out of junctions in this case...
I do think the council should provide an area where likeminded people can share there passion for cars... Disused car park, why not make it into an organised event the police won’t raid every weekend? Organised properly with volunteer Marshall’s telling cars when they are allowed to race up the strip or not... just throwing it out there as an idea.
If anyone has the guts to tell me on this forum that they’ve never as a young person, wanted to show people their car and let people hear their new golf R etc, you’re a liar. Wouldn’t be on this forum or not.
I do think some people when they hit a certain age forget about being young, and begin to hate on the young. ‘Stupid 4 cylinders’ ‘leased golf R’ ‘S3 fart box’
Yes people enjoy their cars now and some people take it too far sometimes, however this event does not warrant meets being faced with £2000 fines for attending as I think mentioned above.
I work hard through the week to be able to pay for everything I have, and on a weekend I owe it to myself to enjoy my things and my car with friends.
Think about how many meets will go on EVERY night in England. How many deaths has there been this year???
Not many. Why should everyone be punished for a motor incident? People of all ages crash their cars everyday.
Hope this will get everyone to have a little think for a moment...
The only steer that I would give is that it is not the job of the taxpayer to finance this stuff, that’s a ‘benefits’ mindset, its the role of private enterprise to formalise meets.
An entity like Mcdonalds could set up mobile food vans and hire some McPolice to McBaton the few Mcf
kwits just to keep the tone a little safer. As for Quentin Wilson mentioning TG, I seem to recall them only ever doing one modern youth feature, it’s more the internet chaps who have assisted in promoting something that has always gone on since youngsters wee first able to afford cars back in the 60s. QW probably sold half the jalopies that have been used at these events since then.
unbiased said:
Skyedriver said:
unbiased said:
Agreed.
To be honest, it's nigh on impossible to stop these events so the OPs suggestion seems a sensible way to give a level of safety - for both participants and the general public.
It will likely cost. But what doesn't.
It's nigh on impossible to stop young people knifing each other and shooting each other.To be honest, it's nigh on impossible to stop these events so the OPs suggestion seems a sensible way to give a level of safety - for both participants and the general public.
It will likely cost. But what doesn't.
Should we set up an area for that to happen too?
There already are perfectly decent, safely organised, away from the general public, events organised by the MSA should you want to compete against others. These vary from multiple vehicle events like races to one at a time events like hillclimbs, sprints, drag races etc
MSA is one, or Spedeworth or BRISCA too if you fancy stock car racing.
I don't fancy any of that, but I'm not attending these events.
The OP has proposed a solution. It may have legs, it may not.
Tracks are all well and good, but they're a distance away, they cost a lot, and often require a day off work. Hence why 'cruises' happen.
GEllisM4 said:
Naturally, like any spectator event. Golf, tennis, cricket, there are some bad apples that take it a little too far and make it a bit more dangerous than it should be. Not checking when coming out of junctions in this case...
Your claiming that players at Wimbledon put peoples lives at risk? Not sure I have ever seen Tiger Woods chipping balls in to the crowd or Shane Warn swinging his bat at people in the queue at lords...GEllisM4 said:
I do think the council should provide an area where likeminded people can share there passion for cars... Disused car park, why not make it into an organised event the police won’t raid every weekend? Organised properly with volunteer Marshall’s telling cars when they are allowed to race up the strip or not... just throwing it out there as an idea.
Why should the councils provide that? There are plenty of events you could go to, but people choose not to. Run what you brung at Santa Pod. Plenty of track days. Lots of custom car events. What’s wrong with them?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff