Bad crash at my local boy racer meet
Discussion
MikeT66 said:
Brooking10 said:
emicen said:
What a brilliant world. Massive accident, people injured and strewn in all directions, everyone keeps on filming.
Agreed and folk on here are baying to see it because what they have seen so far doesn’t actually show people being hit.
CAPP0 said:
You won't have seen any of the video then? The BMW comes out of a left hand side road about 1sec before impact. That's the cause, excessive speed from the 350 and a car pulling out in front of him. Not "racing" per se.
It's been said that the BMW couldn't see the approaching 350 due to the crowds, not that that exonerates either of them.
It was a Toyota GT86 that pulled out blind due to his view being blocked by the bystanders.It's been said that the BMW couldn't see the approaching 350 due to the crowds, not that that exonerates either of them.
It’s a terrible shame this has happened for all involved. They were just out on a summers evening for a bit of fun and this happens.
Sadly though I think we can all agree it was only a matter of time and now it’s ruined for everyone.
I know some folks would rather young people drove beige Nissan Micras, but the world outside your Mums front door isn’t like that. Kids these days can afford some pretty nice cars. My Son is 20 and has a GT86 Aero. I only hope he’s sensible enough not to kill himself in it, it’s a worry I must admit because I know what I was like back then and I didn’t have that sort of power!
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
I must admit because I know what I was like back then and I didn’t have that sort of power!
Exactly - my first car struggled to get past 50 tbh.Fairly confident I wouldn't have seen 20 had I had access to a powerful first car !
Hope all involved recover - but I'm guessing there's likely to be amputees etc
I've seen videos of these kind of meets before and always wondered when something like this would happen.
It's worse when you see a guy doing donuts, and his back end swinging inches from the crowds, got to be brave to do that and to stand there, literally putting your life in the hands of some boy racer.
Can almost guarantee the government will now put limits on what cars young people can drive regardless of what they can afford.
I loved that my first car was a s
t box. It cost me 650 quid when I was 23 and just past my test. I could have gone out and got a 300 a month car on finance but guess what at the time I was saving for a house deposit and had over 20 grand in bank. These young people wasting money on cars will be moaning they can't buy a house in a few years time.
It's worse when you see a guy doing donuts, and his back end swinging inches from the crowds, got to be brave to do that and to stand there, literally putting your life in the hands of some boy racer.
Can almost guarantee the government will now put limits on what cars young people can drive regardless of what they can afford.
I loved that my first car was a s
t box. It cost me 650 quid when I was 23 and just past my test. I could have gone out and got a 300 a month car on finance but guess what at the time I was saving for a house deposit and had over 20 grand in bank. These young people wasting money on cars will be moaning they can't buy a house in a few years time.Edited by Bennyjames28 on Friday 19th July 08:15
Have watched various YouTube videos of similar meets and it always amazed me how they seem to pass off without incident, but then again there was a girl killed at a similar meet in Trafford Park, then there was that chap in the M2 that crashed. There was the big yank dollop that crashed leaving a car show a couple of weeks back and luckily didnt take anyone out.
I suppose people rely on the it wont happen to me factor but standing, in crowds, right where amateur drivers in high powered cars are going very quickly, seems pretty risky.
Trouble is, there is talk of the Police clamping down, but to be fair they really struggle for resources, the car community needs some of its own self enforced standards, but probably lost on anyone who thinks that is a good idea, either driving or standing on a central reservation clutching a phone.
I suppose people rely on the it wont happen to me factor but standing, in crowds, right where amateur drivers in high powered cars are going very quickly, seems pretty risky.
Trouble is, there is talk of the Police clamping down, but to be fair they really struggle for resources, the car community needs some of its own self enforced standards, but probably lost on anyone who thinks that is a good idea, either driving or standing on a central reservation clutching a phone.
This stuff is why around here there's a ban on "car cruises" with fines of £2000 being handed out in court.
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2019/02/22/bla...
Some people are dicks. Some of those people own cars. Unfortunately we have to do things to control them.
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2019/02/22/bla...
Some people are dicks. Some of those people own cars. Unfortunately we have to do things to control them.
agtlaw said:
The drivers, passengers and spectators are all at risk of prosecution for driving offences. It would not be wise to publicly identify yourself as present at this ‘event.’
Would I be correct in thinking Inciting Dangerous Driving could be applied to the spectators? Perhaps not a bad offence for the Police to pursue, may make these events a little safer.agtlaw said:
The drivers, passengers and spectators are all at risk of prosecution for driving offences. It would not be wise to publicly identify yourself as present at this ‘event.’
What offences are the spectators and passengers at risk of prosecution for? I'm not questioning what you're saying btw, your input is always very interesting, I'm just curious what they would be. 
This looks like the same place from a few weeks ago. You can see how the visibility out of the junction is restricted with people crowding on the pavement. (To be clear, this is not to excuse any of the driving that caused the incident).
Combine excess speed, impaired visibility, ‘peer pressure’ to take risks and do more ‘impressive’ things, and, ***possibly*** alcohol and/or drugs...and catastrophes like this are just waiting to happen.
https://youtu.be/kZp4TXHhpB
Combine excess speed, impaired visibility, ‘peer pressure’ to take risks and do more ‘impressive’ things, and, ***possibly*** alcohol and/or drugs...and catastrophes like this are just waiting to happen.
https://youtu.be/kZp4TXHhpB
PaulD86 said:
agtlaw said:
The drivers, passengers and spectators are all at risk of prosecution for driving offences. It would not be wise to publicly identify yourself as present at this ‘event.’
What offences are the spectators and passengers at risk of prosecution for? I'm not questioning what you're saying btw, your input is always very interesting, I'm just curious what they would be. Pintofbest said:
Camelot1971 said:
Of course they were racing and you're naive if you think otherwise.
Have you actually seen the clip? One car pulls out of a side road into the path of another which is going far too fast to do anything about it. They weren’t racing each other.I wasn’t there fortunately, the “meet” is about 1/3mile from my house and I live on the road it’s takes place on. The accident point is on my evening dog walking route as there’s a path that runs next to the road up a 50ft bank.
There would have been a good 200 spectators, is it likely the police would bother trying to prosecute any of them ?
Everyone is up in arms now as there have been complaints for months now and knew this was going to happen yet nothing was done to stop it !
What I couldn’t understand is why they didn’t covertly record the goings on ( plain clothes with camcorder or phone) then send out NIPs in the post , just a few handed out would have sent a shockwave around the drivers and nipped it in the bud
There would have been a good 200 spectators, is it likely the police would bother trying to prosecute any of them ?
Everyone is up in arms now as there have been complaints for months now and knew this was going to happen yet nothing was done to stop it !
What I couldn’t understand is why they didn’t covertly record the goings on ( plain clothes with camcorder or phone) then send out NIPs in the post , just a few handed out would have sent a shockwave around the drivers and nipped it in the bud
The bigger meets around here now have a fairly reliable marshal and/or police presence which makes them (mostly) a great day out, family friendly, etc.
Still get the odd goon pushing the limits whilst exiting whilst all of the SoL wannabees are out videoing stuff (stop using portrait you morons) but generally things have toned down big time.
Hopefully everyone makes a reasonable recovery, and hope a driving license or two are revoked.
Still get the odd goon pushing the limits whilst exiting whilst all of the SoL wannabees are out videoing stuff (stop using portrait you morons) but generally things have toned down big time.
Hopefully everyone makes a reasonable recovery, and hope a driving license or two are revoked.
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