Bad crash at my local boy racer meet

[DonkeyApple]

Kingdom35 said:

Whats the latest then? With regards to the most important aspect. The bystanders, 17 of them injured, I pray theyre all ok and no major permanent injury.

What next? Has the kid resurfaced from his mummies pouch? Any remorse?

No doubt this meet will happen again.
Its amazing all the people i can see that attended have started blaming the police for lying that they never knew it was happening. That's the main focus for them.

Crazy world we live in and the youngsters today, never it seems take any accountability. Pathetic.

When boiled down to basics only those who drove too fast and those that stood too close are to blame. No one else.

[Kingdom35]

DonkeyApple said:

Kingdom35 said:

Whats the latest then? With regards to the most important aspect. The bystanders, 17 of them injured, I pray theyre all ok and no major permanent injury.

What next? Has the kid resurfaced from his mummies pouch? Any remorse?

No doubt this meet will happen again.
Its amazing all the people i can see that attended have started blaming the police for lying that they never knew it was happening. That's the main focus for them.

Crazy world we live in and the youngsters today, never it seems take any accountability. Pathetic.

When boiled down to basics only those who drove too fast and those that stood too close are to blame. No one else.

True but that's not even answering any of what ive asked in my post. But I understand your point. Play with fire and get burnt. Im just a tad sick of seeing these kids go walking off to mummy.

When I was that age, first off I wouldn't have the B&lls to do that, secondly we were all much more accountable. Too many people and not just youngsters haven't the minerals to do the right thing or be accountable these days.

Society is going down the swanny.

[Aphex]

Kingdom35 said:

True but that's not even answering any of what ive asked in my post. But I understand your point. Play with fire and get burnt. Im just a tad sick of seeing these kids go walking off to mummy.

When I was that age, first off I wouldn't have the B&lls to do that, secondly we were all much more accountable. Too many people and not just youngsters haven't the minerals to do the right thing or be accountable these days.

Society is going down the swanny.

[Dr Jekyll]

Kingdom35 said:

When I was that age, first off I wouldn't have the B&lls to do that, secondly we were all much more accountable. Too many people and not just youngsters haven't the minerals to do the right thing or be accountable these days.

Society is going down the swanny.

I've been reading about some of the Ace café antics from the 60s, hooliganism isn't a new thing.

[Kingdom35]

Aphex said:

Kingdom35 said:

True but that's not even answering any of what ive asked in my post. But I understand your point. Play with fire and get burnt. Im just a tad sick of seeing these kids go walking off to mummy.

When I was that age, first off I wouldn't have the B&lls to do that, secondly we were all much more accountable. Too many people and not just youngsters haven't the minerals to do the right thing or be accountable these days.

Society is going down the swanny.

Phaa….what a cracking response, educated and well thought out......oh wait.

[Aphex]

Kingdom35 said:

Phaa….what a cracking response, educated and well thought out......oh wait.

At least I know how to use an ellipsis

[C70R]

Durzel said:

Alex_225 said:

Personally I don't see how the spectators who were injured are at blame by simply being there.

A lot of meets are organised be it the likes of a breakfast meet at Goodwood or a locally organised gathering or 'cruise' and a lot of attendees come along to look at the cars. Regardless there is an element of drivers attending who can't resist the urge to show off and that's what's happened in this incident. Someone is speeding, someone pulls out and this happens.

It's up to the drivers to reel it in and not be idiots even more so when it's crowded. Not the first time this kind of thing has happened and I suspect not the last.

Because they were stood around on the exit hoping to see people tearing it up down the street. They weren't standing there hoping to see people exiting the event quietly and considerately. None of them expected what happened to happen, but there is a very high risk of it happening when you are standing around by the exit, and your presence is the very thing that encourages reckless driving (an audience).

This. Just this.

Anyone trying to absolve the knuckle-draggers encouraging, and standing in close proximity to, this behaviour of blame needs their head checked.

[ukaskew]

Kingdom35 said:

Its amazing all the people i can see that attended have started blaming the police for lying that they never knew it was happening. That's the main focus for them.

Crazy world we live in and the youngsters today, never it seems take any accountability. Pathetic.

I see this time and time again on social media in the local police page comments or in the 'spotted' groups. You can be sure if the police had been there they'd all be moaning about H&S culture and probably finding ways of organising events even further under the radar.

A young chap was killed near where I live, within a day people were at the police moaning about no arrests as they all knew who it was. They named and shamed him. Guess what? Nothing to do with it whatsoever, but the police had to use resources to take him in for his own safety. Did any of these people issue any sort of public apology? Of course not.

[C70R]

DonkeyApple said:

And now they line the Ace Cafe like a chimp army.

Years ago, in my days of powerful Japanese metal, I went to a midweek summer 'Jap night' at Ace.

The place was so busy that I was forced to park on the road outside.

Within an hour of me being there, about 80% of people attending had turned their back on the cars in the car park.

Instead, they were watching and encouraging a progression of pricks doing burnouts and doughnuts on the public road outside.

I quickly realised it wasn't what I expected, and moved my car before something like this happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnb8xW59g2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f3kw6U3oBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IulmE4rAIbI

[fatfunkymonkey]

Kingdom35 said:

Whats the latest then? With regards to the most important aspect. The bystanders, 17 of them injured, I pray theyre all ok and no major permanent injury.

What next? Has the kid resurfaced from his mummies pouch? Any remorse?

No doubt this meet will happen again.
Its amazing all the people i can see that attended have started blaming the police for lying that they never knew it was happening. That's the main focus for them.

Crazy world we live in and the youngsters today, never it seems take any accountability. Pathetic.

I'm local to this and the latest I know is that there has been no update on those injured. Both drivers have been interviewed by the police.

Will happen again?



I don't know if this actually happened but the idea of it did not go down well.

[Kingdom35]

Aphex said:

Kingdom35 said:

Phaa….what a cracking response, educated and well thought out......oh wait.

At least I know how to use an ellipsis

Well done arree Kid!...You've achieved something today...….

[Kingdom35]

fatfunkymonkey said:

Kingdom35 said:

Whats the latest then? With regards to the most important aspect. The bystanders, 17 of them injured, I pray theyre all ok and no major permanent injury.

What next? Has the kid resurfaced from his mummies pouch? Any remorse?

No doubt this meet will happen again.
Its amazing all the people i can see that attended have started blaming the police for lying that they never knew it was happening. That's the main focus for them.

Crazy world we live in and the youngsters today, never it seems take any accountability. Pathetic.

I'm local to this and the latest I know is that there has been no update on those injured. Both drivers have been interviewed by the police.

Will happen again?



I don't know if this actually happened but the idea of it did not go down well.

So all the little weed bags wanted to come out again to then self-absorb their "like" status on social media again....Embarrassing dimwit generation

[matjk]

It did happen , about 10 cars turned up at the Football Stadium overflow carpark , the Police turned up and told them to fk off , that was about it ! I wonder what will happen Thursday, I mean they’re not just going to give up meeting up , it was never organised in the first place

Edited by matjk on Tuesday 23 July 21:42

[Drumroll]

akirk said:

I am not suggesting that we allow people to do whatever they want regardless of the impact on others - but suggesting that as a society we have lost touch with why people take risk / and in our pursuit of H&S we have lost something in society - finding ways to allow people to take risk / do silly things (without affecting the innocent) is perhaps worth considering...

So to enable people to do what they want but not impact on others, we need rules.

In reality take what you say to the limit and the only people who could put their lives at risk and not impact others would be orphans who have spent all there time isolated from everybody.

Surely you don't believe all those injured, stood where they did fully accepting the risk and that their friends and relatives new this too and accepted it? The reality is they just didn’t think of the consequences. That is the problem.

It is the same with anything, peoples acceptable level of risk varies. It varies in many ways. At work I have seen people take risks to get a job done, that normally they just wouldn’t do.

My attitude to height is interesting there are days I could climb to the top of a silo with no difficulty a couple of days later I couldn’t climb it. The risk was still the same but my attitude to it has changed.

The laws about silo’s have changed and new ones have to have steps and not ladders. Much safer, but obviously more expensive. To me that is a good thing, it is also an example of H & S evolving to reflect changing times.

[J4CKO]

DonkeyApple said:

Kingdom35 said:

Whats the latest then? With regards to the most important aspect. The bystanders, 17 of them injured, I pray theyre all ok and no major permanent injury.

What next? Has the kid resurfaced from his mummies pouch? Any remorse?

No doubt this meet will happen again.
Its amazing all the people i can see that attended have started blaming the police for lying that they never knew it was happening. That's the main focus for them.

Crazy world we live in and the youngsters today, never it seems take any accountability. Pathetic.

When boiled down to basics only those who drove too fast and those that stood too close are to blame. No one else.

Wonder how many compensation claims will be going in from spectators ? Dont want any Police involvement "Booooo" but suddenly have an all consuming desire for an Ambulance to turn up, then a load of other public services to get patched up, probably, all told a very costly evening to the UK's public services.

Cant never do anything remotely risky, but probably best to keep the really stupid st to a minimum, have the wherewithal to think, "actually, this is getting a bit sketchy, people can and do get killed and injured so perhaps lets call it a draw or find somewhere a lot safer than the side of this road right here and now"

The "But we are young, and want to have carefree fun" this is bks, I am 48 and like driving quickly and general arsing about in cars but this is just mental and death and injury is very possible.

[fatfunkymonkey]

matjk said:

It did happen , about 10 cars turned up at the Football Stadium overflow carpark , the Police turned up and told them to fk off , that was about it ! I wonder what will happen Thursday, I mean their not just going to give up meeting up , it was never organised in the first place

I'm glad to hear they were dealt with, the police seem to be taking a bashing on this and I'm not sure that's fair, so much is going on in the town at the moment and they can't be everywhere at once.

One thing is for sure, I will be leaving my car on the drive this Thursday. if i do need to go out Ill borrow the girlfriends fiesta.


I think you are a bit closer to these meets than me, I'm up by Chells park but I'm fairly sure mini meets have been going on up here for a while. most nights I can hear engines revving and tires screaming when I'm sat in the garden. I just hope they don't all come up here.

[treeroy]

so much whining and complaining over this. its sad but its very rare. Car meets happen all the time and no one is injured. such a fuss over nothing. This came from one idiot driver in the GT86 and its unfortunate that many people chose to stand in the middle of a dual carriageway.

[C70R]

treeroy said:

such a fuss over nothing

That's some really low-grade trolling.

[treeroy]

C70R said:

That's some really low-grade trolling.

I'm not trolling, I have seen some absolutely over the top responses saying young people should be banned from driving, that car meets should be illegal, etc

[blueg33]

I have an alernative idea

Government sets aside some land say part of an old airfield . Erects high electric fence around it, invites cruisers and their fans to show up, close and weld up the gates

Let them get on with it in the knowledge that - There will be no medical facilities at all

Obviously, you don't have to let them out again or provide food etc. ie all the plonkers in place until the end of time