RE: Audi RS6 Avant (C6) | The Brave Pill
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Now these are a proper brave pill, whilst being an epic car the bills are really something my friend still winces when we talk about his one it seemed like the engine was out every other month not for the engine but work around it.
There were no small bills his wallet took one hell of a beating over the two years he had it, another friend still has his & the bills have been equally eye watering but he's working on the basis that once he's got the issues sorted he'll have a great car, aall I can say to that is Good Luck.
There were no small bills his wallet took one hell of a beating over the two years he had it, another friend still has his & the bills have been equally eye watering but he's working on the basis that once he's got the issues sorted he'll have a great car, aall I can say to that is Good Luck.
My uncle had one for a while which I drove a few times. It was monstrously fast in a straight line but the weight was really felt when braking or cornering. Once you hit over the surprise of the acceleration (especially over 100) it left me a bit cold. The noise was very muted, especially from in the cabin.
The running costs were brutal too. Fuel was as expected; expensive. But the cost of faults etc got a bit silly so it was shipped on after a while.
The running costs were brutal too. Fuel was as expected; expensive. But the cost of faults etc got a bit silly so it was shipped on after a while.
Chestrockwell said:
Judging by everybody’s comments on cost of ownership, I can’t imagine how much modern super saloons will cost to run in years to come! Imagine a 140k mike E63s or a 15 year old M760li 
Maybe it's because I'm more familiar with Mercs that I don't see E63's as particularly borky. But I do hear a lot of horror stories about RS6's (at least the previous one) and the V10 BMW engine.
bloomen said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Bloody good fun though! Good brave pill.
Would it really be all that much fun? You'd be able to have the very occasional monstrous squirt. 99.5% of the rest of your day you're lumbering around setting money on fire. I bought one of these three years ago, a then 8 year old with 700bhp after some relatively mild tuning and the all important engine out o ring replacement.
The drive home I remember laughing out loud at the ludicrous acceleration.
But a few weeks in I realised that it was a one trick pony in driving satisfaction. It could do its party piece very well and embarrass most other things on the road in a dead straight line. Driver engagement less so. Sold it after just three months and went for a much smaller car with 'only' half the power.
Sound was also disappointing on anything other than startup and full chat but when it did come on song it was great!
Arsecati said:
What 3.2 TDi is that then?
As for your comment on these cars falling apart 'no matter what'. Well, I've had my 2007 A6 3.0TDi Avant (different shade of silver to this one) for more than 10 years and currently 210,000 miles. I've pondered the idea of changing it so many times, but as this car owes me absolutely zero and costs me nothing but standard service costs each year, I simply cannot justify it.
In ten years, it went in to limp mode just once (about 5 years ago), but still allowed me to get home. I plugged in my diagnostics tool and it told me 'air flow meter', so €140 delivered from Germany within 2 days and about 10 minutes in labour on my drive - that was it: the car has been and continues to be, faultless, and still looks and drives like a car with less than a quarter of the mileage.
Ok, not TOTALLY faultless: a couple of rear parking sensors, a drivers side window regulator and a rear windscreen wiper hose have had to be replaced over the last 10 years, but all came from eBay and fitted at my leisure, so I'm happy to accept that over 210k miles. Still stuns me every year when it goes in for its MOT, I keep thinking: 'this has GOT to be the year i get at least one fault!', but no, not even one single advisory in all that time........ touch wood.
Like anything else: look after it, and it will look after you. I bought it direct from the original owner with still a bit of Audi warranty on it, but since then, it's been meticulously maintained by myself, so I know exactly that all servicing and maintenance work has been done 100% perfectly when (and even when not!) needed. I'll keep changing my weekend toys on a regular basis - but this will continue to be my dependable daily for a good while to come yet.
This ^As for your comment on these cars falling apart 'no matter what'. Well, I've had my 2007 A6 3.0TDi Avant (different shade of silver to this one) for more than 10 years and currently 210,000 miles. I've pondered the idea of changing it so many times, but as this car owes me absolutely zero and costs me nothing but standard service costs each year, I simply cannot justify it.
In ten years, it went in to limp mode just once (about 5 years ago), but still allowed me to get home. I plugged in my diagnostics tool and it told me 'air flow meter', so €140 delivered from Germany within 2 days and about 10 minutes in labour on my drive - that was it: the car has been and continues to be, faultless, and still looks and drives like a car with less than a quarter of the mileage.
Ok, not TOTALLY faultless: a couple of rear parking sensors, a drivers side window regulator and a rear windscreen wiper hose have had to be replaced over the last 10 years, but all came from eBay and fitted at my leisure, so I'm happy to accept that over 210k miles. Still stuns me every year when it goes in for its MOT, I keep thinking: 'this has GOT to be the year i get at least one fault!', but no, not even one single advisory in all that time........ touch wood.
Like anything else: look after it, and it will look after you. I bought it direct from the original owner with still a bit of Audi warranty on it, but since then, it's been meticulously maintained by myself, so I know exactly that all servicing and maintenance work has been done 100% perfectly when (and even when not!) needed. I'll keep changing my weekend toys on a regular basis - but this will continue to be my dependable daily for a good while to come yet.
My commuter barge (BMW E46 Coupe) is 16 years old with 163k on the clock. With full history a sympathetic owners (including me) it still looks fabulous.
Fall apart whatever? What utter nonsense.
QuattroDave said:
THIS.
I bought one of these three years ago, a then 8 year old with 700bhp after some relatively mild tuning and the all important engine out o ring replacement.
The drive home I remember laughing out loud at the ludicrous acceleration.
But a few weeks in I realised that it was a one trick pony in driving satisfaction. It could do its party piece very well and embarrass most other things on the road in a dead straight line. Driver engagement less so. Sold it after just three months and went for a much smaller car with 'only' half the power.
Sound was also disappointing on anything other than startup and full chat but when it did come on song it was great!
My idea also. Perhaps great if you live at the autobahn, but if you enjoy driving using the steering wheel also, the 2130kg real life kerb weight and much of that in front of the front axle would be the figure to keep in mind. I bought one of these three years ago, a then 8 year old with 700bhp after some relatively mild tuning and the all important engine out o ring replacement.
The drive home I remember laughing out loud at the ludicrous acceleration.
But a few weeks in I realised that it was a one trick pony in driving satisfaction. It could do its party piece very well and embarrass most other things on the road in a dead straight line. Driver engagement less so. Sold it after just three months and went for a much smaller car with 'only' half the power.
Sound was also disappointing on anything other than startup and full chat but when it did come on song it was great!
My also tuned Cupra ST is basically half the power too, but more importantly only 2/3 of the weight while being just about as practical estate so no compromise there. And uses less than half the fuel and for similar money when it was new with not a single issue after 3 years instead of roughly the same amount again in bills.
That said, would still love an Autobahn blast in a RS6, once...
bloomen said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Bloody good fun though! Good brave pill.
Would it really be all that much fun? You'd be able to have the very occasional monstrous squirt. 99.5% of the rest of your day you're lumbering around setting money on fire. I imagine chances of using 700bhp on the road are frustratingly few and far between (if you don't want to take risks with your licence), though you'd certainly win a few willy waving contests. Is that worth the expense though?
bloomen said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Bloody good fun though! Good brave pill.
Would it really be all that much fun? You'd be able to have the very occasional monstrous squirt. 99.5% of the rest of your day you're lumbering around setting money on fire. Not sure I agree with the fact it’s a superb distance coverer when you have to stop every 200 miles for fuel. That’s what kills a car like this for me. I know they’re expensive to run, but in reality a 535d or similar will cover the same ground a lot faster, and won’t ruin you financially.
One of my friends has one, he’s a really glutton for punishment. He had the previous one which shat it’s gearbox spectacularly and cost the price of an S6 to fix.
It’s staggeringly quick, in that “I’m faster than you mate move over” on the motorway way.
It’s thirsty, but it’s not his Day to day vehicle. It costs £100 to fill it with Tesco 99 and does 300 miles between fills (if you’re careful) which is bad, but my Diesel saloon with 190bhp costs £80 to fill and does 500 mile, doesn’t seem otherworldly if you don’t have to do the boring commute in it.
It’s staggeringly quick, in that “I’m faster than you mate move over” on the motorway way.
It’s thirsty, but it’s not his Day to day vehicle. It costs £100 to fill it with Tesco 99 and does 300 miles between fills (if you’re careful) which is bad, but my Diesel saloon with 190bhp costs £80 to fill and does 500 mile, doesn’t seem otherworldly if you don’t have to do the boring commute in it.
Trickytimes said:
slk 32 said:
Only an idiot doesn't know the difference between stationery and stationary.
Any chance PH can get journalists who can spell or employ decent sub editors?
Any chance that you can avoid unnecessary, aggressive posts! A great article that you haven’t had to pay for. Hardly worth wanting to see the writer out of a job for a simple typo.Any chance PH can get journalists who can spell or employ decent sub editors?
You seem to think it doesn't matter if an article has errors in it as readers haven't paid for it.
I would argue that the author has been paid for it therefore the least he could do is make sure the spelling is correct, if only as a matter of professional pride.
slk 32 said:
Trickytimes said:
slk 32 said:
Only an idiot doesn't know the difference between stationery and stationary.
Any chance PH can get journalists who can spell or employ decent sub editors?
Any chance that you can avoid unnecessary, aggressive posts! A great article that you haven’t had to pay for. Hardly worth wanting to see the writer out of a job for a simple typo.Any chance PH can get journalists who can spell or employ decent sub editors?
You seem to think it doesn't matter if an article has errors in it as readers haven't paid for it.
I would argue that the author has been paid for it therefore the least he could do is make sure the spelling is correct, if only as a matter of professional pride.
Anyway, I see it has been corrected. I apologise if my post seemed overly aggressive, that was never the intention. I've been a member for over 10 years and have been disappointed lately at the number of basic factual errors that have crept in when it comes to articles - I've always viewed Pistonheads as an authoritative source when it has come to automotive trivia.
Anyway, I'll climb back under my bridge..
I seem to remember an article once from a supercar hire company who rented out all sorts of stuff, Ferrari’s, lambos etc plus one of these.
In terms of running costs the rs6 was one of the worst, with the Bentley continental and 997 turbo being the cheapest....
I’d much prefer a similar age rs4 avant to one of these if I was an Audi fan. Which I’m not, I bought a bought a quattroporte for my brave pill !
In terms of running costs the rs6 was one of the worst, with the Bentley continental and 997 turbo being the cheapest....
I’d much prefer a similar age rs4 avant to one of these if I was an Audi fan. Which I’m not, I bought a bought a quattroporte for my brave pill !
Long term S/RS Owner with a MRC Stage 2 C6 here...
I've had mine for 2.5 years. Spent years plucking up courage to get one and move out of my B5 S4. Bought a Forum Car and its been superb.
Had a great time blasting around The Lakes earlier this year even with 700+hp.
Never had more than 350 miles out of a tank. Long term average sits at 18mpg on the DIS.
Dynamic and Sport mode are too stiff unless the car is loaded. Most of the time, off the motorway, Comfort is OK. Just.
I'd agree, the potential bills are ruinous. Even at 10K miles a year, running costs are high. But if you keep visiting MRC with it, they'll help you avoid blowing it up. At your expense of course...
Its aged well. I desperately want to keep mine until they're a relic of a bygone age.
And hopefully worth millions....
Can't think of a comparable vehicle that'd I'd rather have for the combination of bork factor, outright straight-line speed, ability to put your bike and gear in the boot, and/or take the kid(s) to school in...
I've had mine for 2.5 years. Spent years plucking up courage to get one and move out of my B5 S4. Bought a Forum Car and its been superb.
Had a great time blasting around The Lakes earlier this year even with 700+hp.
Never had more than 350 miles out of a tank. Long term average sits at 18mpg on the DIS.
Dynamic and Sport mode are too stiff unless the car is loaded. Most of the time, off the motorway, Comfort is OK. Just.
I'd agree, the potential bills are ruinous. Even at 10K miles a year, running costs are high. But if you keep visiting MRC with it, they'll help you avoid blowing it up. At your expense of course...
Its aged well. I desperately want to keep mine until they're a relic of a bygone age.
And hopefully worth millions....
Can't think of a comparable vehicle that'd I'd rather have for the combination of bork factor, outright straight-line speed, ability to put your bike and gear in the boot, and/or take the kid(s) to school in...
mstrbkr said:
Come one, does the whole of that V10 REALLY sit beyond the front axle? I find that very hard to believe.
Well the S6 V10 certainly does accordingly to John barker at Evo. Have a read:https://www.evo.co.uk/audi/s6/6395/audi-s6
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