Anyone else no interest in hypercars?
Discussion
Wills2 said:
Lost interest in modern Lamborghinis, they seem to have become the weekend wedding car of choice for a certain demographic removing all the appeal instantly. As these are meant to be dream cars, I want to imagine blasting along the Route Napoleon in one not some gimp revving the tits off it in a Bolton back street having hired it uninsured from a local money laundering operation. .
Was going to ask if you from Sydney, standard wedding photo these days for a certain demographic is some Lamborghini’s and a couple of Harley Davidson’s whp1983 said:
The Hypercars I sort of get... it’s the track special stuff (senna, FXX, Vulcan etc) I don’t get.
If I had that money I’d want a proper race car and to compete.
Absolutely this! I cant see why you would spend loads on a track day only special when you could race Caterham's (for example) for less.If I had that money I’d want a proper race car and to compete.
Wills2 said:
Lost interest in modern Lamborghinis, they seem to have become the weekend wedding car of choice for a certain demographic removing all the appeal instantly. As these are meant to be dream cars, I want to imagine blasting along the Route Napoleon in one not some gimp revving the tits off it in a Bolton back street having hired it uninsured from a local money laundering operation. .
Absolutely nailed it. Oop norf hypercars are driven either by footballers up and down Deansgate (it’s a pathetic sight) or the aforementioned care hire demographic, and always like absolute utter bellends. I’d not touch one with a barge pole for that reason alone. I don’t see the money in them either.
Incidentally I saw this Diablo is a garage last week. The rust and general crappiness underneath was pretty special, and there was a huge pile of cut off stuff under it....
I think I’d rather spend my money on a fast, “normal” car. In fact I’d rather spend my money on a nice looking, comfy car. Fast cars are finished now.
ETA no idea why they’re upside down!
Algarve said:
skinny said:
I'm the same. No interest. I just find hypercars, as said above, a bit pointless and vulgar. There is an argument that this is just because i can't afford one
I think it would be a reasonable argument as how can you justify the 911 you drive? I guess you bought it because you wanted it, and you can afford it without thinking about it. Which is the exact same situation a buyer of a La Ferrari was in?
I’m not sure what possesses someone to buy a la Ferrari or similar hypercar - but I don’t think it’s often done for the same reason as why I bought my 996 - which was purely to enjoy driving it. Maybe I’m cynical but it looks like a lot of owners of these cars just want the next shiny thing to show off. Of course you do get the petrolhead who has worked hard and appreciates a screaming v12 on a track but I’d guess the more expensive you go, the more they are the minority.
skinny said:
Not sure it’s quite the same. Yes I got my 911 because I wanted it, tho I couldn’t exactly afford it without thinking about it. But it’s 20 years old now and at 10k cost less than a 3-year old family car.
I’m not sure what possesses someone to buy a la Ferrari or similar hypercar - but I don’t think it’s often done for the same reason as why I bought my 996 - which was purely to enjoy driving it. Maybe I’m cynical but it looks like a lot of owners of these cars just want the next shiny thing to show off. Of course you do get the petrolhead who has worked hard and appreciates a screaming v12 on a track but I’d guess the more expensive you go, the more they are the minority.
I think in a lot of cases its because I can, people by and large in my experience seldom considering the reality of the long term or the actual enjoyment or usage of the car(s). For those on finance its ok, I can hand it back in 3 years / or if I bugger up its still worth XXY, or the billionaire its probably pocket change and bragging rights.I’m not sure what possesses someone to buy a la Ferrari or similar hypercar - but I don’t think it’s often done for the same reason as why I bought my 996 - which was purely to enjoy driving it. Maybe I’m cynical but it looks like a lot of owners of these cars just want the next shiny thing to show off. Of course you do get the petrolhead who has worked hard and appreciates a screaming v12 on a track but I’d guess the more expensive you go, the more they are the minority.
For the historic cars that have soared in value its a look what I can pay for this, look what event I can attend. Same reason for buying a house with 30 rooms. You don't need it. But you also probably would if all your rich friends had 30 rooms, you would want 60.
Hypercars which come about as a byproduct of a stat chasing arms race are tedious and an irrelevance to me.
Similarly, cars which chase near irrelevant performance increases, at exponential cost the customer are equally pointless - e.g. the new Brabham offering.
There are a handful of jewels within the offerings on todays market, with the Pagani Huayra leading the way in my opinion. Something utterly stunning, and perfectly justifiable for the crazy money being asked.
Similarly, cars which chase near irrelevant performance increases, at exponential cost the customer are equally pointless - e.g. the new Brabham offering.
There are a handful of jewels within the offerings on todays market, with the Pagani Huayra leading the way in my opinion. Something utterly stunning, and perfectly justifiable for the crazy money being asked.
Brainstorm:
P1 - No - too generic. Outdone by the superhero, which is the 720s in my book
LATheFerrari - Yes - why = V12
918 - No - uninspiring
TVR Speed 12 - Absolutetly - why - it's a monster v12 stapped to piece of paper covered in petrol
Pagina Zonda run out edition 765557 - Yes - Interior, engine and ground breaking looks
Koesininisgegegsgesg - Yes - monster pure V8. Purpose = go fast
Veyron - No - too fat to be agile
Chiron - No - still too fat to be agile
Lotus Vagina - Yes on the assumption its agile as any other Lotus with the trick aero and relative lightweight. If so it could be the pinnacle of performance
Tesla roadster 2 - No - Poor mans Lotus Vagina and I don't like the brand
Rimac - No - Too heavy
AMG-One - Yes - assuming pinnacle as direct F1 influence
Aston Valkeryre - Yes - As above
Carrera GT - No - It killed Paul Walker
P1 - No - too generic. Outdone by the superhero, which is the 720s in my book
LATheFerrari - Yes - why = V12
918 - No - uninspiring
TVR Speed 12 - Absolutetly - why - it's a monster v12 stapped to piece of paper covered in petrol
Pagina Zonda run out edition 765557 - Yes - Interior, engine and ground breaking looks
Koesininisgegegsgesg - Yes - monster pure V8. Purpose = go fast
Veyron - No - too fat to be agile
Chiron - No - still too fat to be agile
Lotus Vagina - Yes on the assumption its agile as any other Lotus with the trick aero and relative lightweight. If so it could be the pinnacle of performance
Tesla roadster 2 - No - Poor mans Lotus Vagina and I don't like the brand
Rimac - No - Too heavy
AMG-One - Yes - assuming pinnacle as direct F1 influence
Aston Valkeryre - Yes - As above
Carrera GT - No - It killed Paul Walker
CABC said:
Chubbyross said:
Nope. Lost interest and I’ve always been a petrolhead. Maybe it’s an age thing but I struggle to see a huge difference between them often. They’re sculpted by wind tunnels and tested on the Nürburgring with, IMHO, a lack of passion in the aesthetic. When I look back to the days of the Countach and Ferrari boxer and testarossa I remember cars that were so different in looks and engineering. As has been posted on here already, a new model was launched every ten years and it felt like a real event. Now I can’t keep up with new McLarens. A new model seem to be announced every few months.
God, I’m getting old!
you (we) are getting old.God, I’m getting old!
the Countach was a hideous car in reality, Testarossa not much better. the reality was nothing like the schoolboy fantasy, if you exclude the numerous blondes dripping over the car every time you returned for a drive.
and with age (wisdom?) comes the feeling that a suitably fettled mx5 delivers sheer driving pleasure. (can't handle more than 3 blondes at a time anyway)
Like many, interested in a few select cars. Could care less about most. As ever, give me £100M and the only petrol items I'd own would be an F1 (just because it's the greatest of all time!) a daily (M, AMG or RS) and a bike. Possibly a cheap-ish project car of some sort that would probably take forever to finish. Several bicycles though: D
Don't think the roads in the UK, or more accurately the traffic situation, warrant anything too specialised these days. I think most just want a decent radio, AC and good seats. (Hence the rise of the SUV) And to be able to leave it in a multi story without worrying about jealous dicks damaging it. Maybe I'm just getting old
A friend who has driven some pretty quick stuff in his past, said similar. FF Range Rover and a Bentley CGT would see him fine.
If I was in possession of an F1. I don't think I'd need his new car though.
Don't think the roads in the UK, or more accurately the traffic situation, warrant anything too specialised these days. I think most just want a decent radio, AC and good seats. (Hence the rise of the SUV) And to be able to leave it in a multi story without worrying about jealous dicks damaging it. Maybe I'm just getting old
A friend who has driven some pretty quick stuff in his past, said similar. FF Range Rover and a Bentley CGT would see him fine.
EDLT said:
Interviews to buy a car? Worked well for Bristol.
I guess if you have one of his previous back catalogue in your dehumified, climate controlled, spotless garage you'll probably be fine.If I was in possession of an F1. I don't think I'd need his new car though.
Edited by S1KRR on Tuesday 23 July 20:38
Harrison-91xcg said:
Brainstorm:
P1 - No - too generic. Outdone by the superhero, which is the 720s in my book
LATheFerrari - Yes - why = V12
918 - No - uninspiring
TVR Speed 12 - Absolutetly - why - it's a monster v12 stapped to piece of paper covered in petrol
Pagina Zonda run out edition 765557 - Yes - Interior, engine and ground breaking looks
Koesininisgegegsgesg - Yes - monster pure V8. Purpose = go fast
Veyron - No - too fat to be agile
Chiron - No - still too fat to be agile
Lotus Vagina - Yes on the assumption its agile as any other Lotus with the trick aero and relative lightweight. If so it could be the pinnacle of performance
Tesla roadster 2 - No - Poor mans Lotus Vagina and I don't like the brand
Rimac - No - Too heavy
AMG-One - Yes - assuming pinnacle as direct F1 influence
Aston Valkeryre - Yes - As above
Carrera GT - No - It killed Paul Walker
Great list right up until the last one.P1 - No - too generic. Outdone by the superhero, which is the 720s in my book
LATheFerrari - Yes - why = V12
918 - No - uninspiring
TVR Speed 12 - Absolutetly - why - it's a monster v12 stapped to piece of paper covered in petrol
Pagina Zonda run out edition 765557 - Yes - Interior, engine and ground breaking looks
Koesininisgegegsgesg - Yes - monster pure V8. Purpose = go fast
Veyron - No - too fat to be agile
Chiron - No - still too fat to be agile
Lotus Vagina - Yes on the assumption its agile as any other Lotus with the trick aero and relative lightweight. If so it could be the pinnacle of performance
Tesla roadster 2 - No - Poor mans Lotus Vagina and I don't like the brand
Rimac - No - Too heavy
AMG-One - Yes - assuming pinnacle as direct F1 influence
Aston Valkeryre - Yes - As above
Carrera GT - No - It killed Paul Walker
Carrera GT is one of the very last stick shift, normally aspirated, supercars.
keirik said:
As a lazy YouTube watcher my impression of Hypercars is they're bought by idiots who can't drive, but that may be a slightly skewed viewpoint. ??
As a reasonably successful (now retired) IT director I'm more confused about how so many people can be so rich
Sex, drugs and rock’n roll. You choose As a reasonably successful (now retired) IT director I'm more confused about how so many people can be so rich
Find the whole super/hypercar thing over saturated and boring.
Adding a few horsepower every second week doesn't make the product any more interesting.
Never thought I'd say it, but I'm actually more excited by mainstream electrification than McLaren's next facsimile or the latest Porsche that you can't buy unless you're having sex with the Porsche DP's great aunt or whatever.
However a BEV 3 box saloon available to buy for the mainstream, that really is a game changer and I'm excited to see how it changes our lives for the better.
I'll take an old school 300-400bhp something for s
ts and giggles, or even a Cateeham, and leave the £200k mobile-phones-on-wheels to people who want to be seen in the latest thing (or, shudder, 'influencers').
Adding a few horsepower every second week doesn't make the product any more interesting.
Never thought I'd say it, but I'm actually more excited by mainstream electrification than McLaren's next facsimile or the latest Porsche that you can't buy unless you're having sex with the Porsche DP's great aunt or whatever.
However a BEV 3 box saloon available to buy for the mainstream, that really is a game changer and I'm excited to see how it changes our lives for the better.
I'll take an old school 300-400bhp something for s
ts and giggles, or even a Cateeham, and leave the £200k mobile-phones-on-wheels to people who want to be seen in the latest thing (or, shudder, 'influencers'). I suppose it's got something to do with it being so (relatively) straightforward today to make a 200+ mph car that almost everyone is at it.
So there is really no sense of wonder associated with them any more.
There's also the image. The vista of massive clueless bellends flaunting their wealth around the streets of Knightsbridge pursued by a fleet of toadies with their little cameras. Yuck.
So there is really no sense of wonder associated with them any more.
There's also the image. The vista of massive clueless bellends flaunting their wealth around the streets of Knightsbridge pursued by a fleet of toadies with their little cameras. Yuck.
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