RE: Honda NSX Type S | Spotted

RE: Honda NSX Type S | Spotted

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T-195

2,671 posts

61 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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Never a good looking car and the Silver doesn't help.

SlimJim16v

5,661 posts

143 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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These look under wheel and tyred, and could also do with the supercharger conversion I read about.

Like a lot of older cars now, stupid prices.

Chestrockwell

2,627 posts

157 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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This sounds like the perfect car, I loved the 2.0 VTEC in my EPR Type R and loved how light it felt. Imagine a mid mounted 3.2 V6 revving to 8k with a manual gearbox and 1300kg. Sounds like an epic recipe! Sure it’s not as quick as others would expect but it’s all about how a car makes you feel. I don’t recall the first Cayman R being that quick off the line?

In regards to the Sydney guy who spanked the NSX in his 22B. That’s like an Audi RS3 that’s been modded beating a standard Cayman GTS at the traffic lights Grand Prix, sounds silly to me!

GB4 JEV FFS

876 posts

67 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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gigglebug said:
That is quite literally the coolest story I have ever heard. You don't mind if use it the pub tonight do you?
Oh man, you blew it. You were so close to perfect piss take but you made a typical mistake, you forgot a word. It could have been epic though!

Its Just Adz

14,085 posts

209 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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I've never had the pleasure of driving one but always admired them, saw one last week strangely enough.

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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GB4 JEV FFS said:
Oh man, you blew it. You were so close to the/a perfect piss take but you made a typical mistake, you forgot a word. It could have been epic though!
I'm sure that I will get over it in time and to be fair you have made exactly the same mistake so it must be catching.

And how do you know I wasn't being serious? Don't you personally think that a man boasting about winning a traffic light grand prix whilst having the advantage of 4wd and a better BHP per tonne, presumably as a result of him tuning his car as he wasn't happy with it in the first place, and then using this single metric to rate a car isn't a story that should resonate around the world?

Evolved

3,565 posts

187 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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Do have a soft spot for these, though they’ve never really blown me away.
Had a run in with one around 15 years ago in my MR2 Turbo, the NSX was simply no match pace wise, obv cornering would be a different story but the lack outright pace was a huge surprise at the time.

Wish I’d bought one then, they were peanuts in comparison to nowadays!

GB4 JEV FFS

876 posts

67 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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gigglebug said:
GB4 JEV FFS said:
Oh man, you blew it. You were so close to the/a perfect piss take but you made a typical mistake, you forgot a word. It could have been epic though!
I'm sure that I will get over it in time and to be fair you have made exactly the same mistake so it must be catching.
No I didn't. You haven't read through your post did you?

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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gigglebug said:
That is quite literally the coolest story I have ever heard. You don't mind if I use it down the pub tonight do you?
If it were to be correct it would have read as above but like I say, I'll get over it.

GB4 JEV FFS said:
You were so close to perfect piss take
GB4 JEV FFS said:
You haven't read through your post did you?
So you think that both of these are good English do you?

LarJammer

2,237 posts

210 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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The NSX is an engineering masterpiece.


Any other comments are spam.

dobly

1,187 posts

159 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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Sadly this Type S is missing the original lightweight BBS wheels - to replace those will cost multiple thousands each - and begs the question why they weren't on the car when it was imported at such a low mileage.
I don't know why PH didn't post a picture of the interior, as that is one of the things that sets this model apart from the standard car - same seat shells as the Type R, but with leather and Alcantara to sit in/on. They are featured in the for sale post, but not in the main article - weird.
Even within the 248 examples of the Type S produced, there were many sub-variants - the car could be specified and configured a number of ways, with airbags, power steering and cruise control, traction control, navigation etc. Also, depending on the year/month it was built it could have different iterations of important kit. The vast majority of Type S were built and sold before the ALB system was upgraded, for instance.
The last Type S are the literal handful that were built after the fixed lights facelift was announced for 02+ cars - these cars don't feature the BBS alloys, instead using the same wheels as the standard 02+ car. In Japan these cars are rarely seen for sale and command prices approaching the stratospheric heights of Type R's

Edited by dobly on Sunday 21st July 22:38

GB4 JEV FFS

876 posts

67 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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gigglebug said:
gigglebug said:
That is quite literally the coolest story I have ever heard. You don't mind if I use it down the pub tonight do you?
If it were to be correct it would have read as above but like I say, I'll get over it.

GB4 JEV FFS said:
You were so close to perfect piss take
GB4 JEV FFS said:
You haven't read through your post did you?
So you think that both of these are good English do you?
Jesus Christ almighty, how the fk did we end up here? It was supposed to be a joke. Lighten the fk up!

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,062 posts

98 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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I sort of get the NSX but also sort of understand those who bemoan it's lack of speed. Years ago I had a Ferrari 328 and a Boxster 3.2, at the same time, for about 2 years.

Both same layout and actually cost similar money ( at the time ). The Boxster was objectively the better car - 15 years younger, it was faster, better balanced and far better equipped.

However, in only one of them did every drive feel special, and it wasn't the Porsche. Some people get this, others don't. Neither is right or wrong or understands cars better - it's just a matter of to each their own...

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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GB4 JEV FFS said:
Jesus Christ almighty, how the fk did we end up here? It was supposed to be a joke. Lighten the fk up!
Oooh, somebody appears to be getting highly strung!!

dobly

1,187 posts

159 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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LarJammer said:
The NSX is an engineering masterpiece.
Any other comments are spam.
Agree - I like to add some extra details that others may not know about these amazing cars.

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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dobly said:
Sadly this Type S is missing the original lightweight BBS wheels - to replace those will cost multiple thousands each - and begs the question why they weren't on the car when it was imported at such a low mileage.
I don't know why PH didn't post a picture of the interior, as that is one of the things that sets this model apart from the standard car - same seat shells as the Type R, but with leather and Alcantara to sit in/on. They are featured in the for sale post, but not in the main article - weird.
Even within the 248 examples of the Type S produced, there were many sub-variants - the car could be specified and configured a number of ways, with airbags, power steering and cruise control, traction control, navigation etc. Also, depending on the year/month it was built it could have different iterations of important kit. The vast majority of Type S were built and sold before the ALB system was upgraded, for instance.
The last Type S are the literal handful that were built after the fixed lights facelift was announced for 02+ cars - these cars don't feature the BBS alloys, instead using the same wheels as the standard 02+ car. In Japan these cars are rarely seen for sale and command prices approaching the stratospheric heights of Type R's

Edited by dobly on Sunday 21st July 22:38
How would the Type S Zero compare to the Type R? Would the earlier Type R still be at the top of the tree for the NA1 or would the S Zero have been better technically?

Edited by gigglebug on Sunday 21st July 22:54

RSchneider

215 posts

164 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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The NSX is one of these cars which teach you momentum management, precision and fluidity. Of course a turbo charged AWD is faster from stand-still. But that's not the point. Even a 7-series does 0-60 in 3.something these days. Still not a sports car. If there's one aspect of the NSX to critizise it's the weight of the production version. It was at least 100kg too heavy because they used aluminum like steele and didn't realize the benefits of a true aluminum construction.

Edited by RSchneider on Sunday 21st July 23:54

dobly

1,187 posts

159 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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The S-Zero was basically a Type R for the period between the 3.0l NA1 R of 92-96, using the C32B 3.2l engine introduced in '97, before the 02+ facelift cars were introduced as the NA2 R of 02-05.
Only 30 or so S-Zero cars were made, iirc.

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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dobly said:
The S-Zero was basically a Type R for the period between the 3.0l NA1 R of 92-96, using the C32B 3.2l engine introduced in '97, before the 02+ facelift cars were introduced as the NA2 R of 02-05.
Only 30 or so S-Zero cars were made, iirc.
That will explain why there isn't much online content about them then. I think the NA1's alcantara interior is definitely the best looking so that would be my preference along with the later engine.

dobly

1,187 posts

159 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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It took a couple of years to "Type R" the engine for the NSX both times, first for the NA1 C30, then for the C32B. So the S-Zero was a stop-gap solution while they worked on the engine introduced in 1997. That's not to say that the S-Zero isn't a mighty fine beast - it is, but was eclipsed when the 02+ R was ready. The Type R process isn't just the engine - it is all the components and systems as well as their interaction with each other. A case in point is the clutch pedal - it has a different mechanism, stroke length and damping to the standard car. Also, the ABS system was fettled to suit the changed suspension characteristics of the 02+ Type R - things like that. Each iteration of each type of NSX improved on the last, and there were quite a few - the JDM had more than the rest.