RE: BMW 330d M Sport Plus | Driven

[anonymous-user]

[quote=PHarticle] Maybe it's the added weight of a 3.0-litre unit up front enhancing the mechanical grip of those Michelins [/qote]


hmmm, i don't want to break it to you, but you just broke the laws of physics!

[akadk]

£51k is bonkers for that, and only 265ps

Jaguar XF S 300PS/700Nm would be a much better buy for anyone remotely considering it

[Marvin Trill]

Skyman said:

Marvin Trill said:

Skyman said:

Marvin Trill said:

I get the "Diesel is all you ever need." thing, indeed they are efficient lumps. But a weekend over the Cotswolds in a MK7 Golf R confirms to me hot hatches are all the car you ever need.

Nonsense comment.

How so ?

Because there is more to life than a hot hatch. How obvious is that. Hope that responds to your epically daft question. And, fyi, I have a Golf R.

Put the handbags down mate. Of course there is more to life than hot hatches. You've gone on the offensive, but offered zero rebuttal of why it is wrong. Fyi I have several vehicles for different uses, from MAN trucks, a Freelander, a Vauxhall Vivaro and my Golf R. But a hot hatch is the only thing that ticks most of the boxes most of the time.

Edited by Marvin Trill on Monday 22 July 20:30

[Poppiecock]

Isn't this a bit pointless these days?

Nobody is picking a 330d as a company car - just the basic MSport Plus without any other options will cost you £465 / month in BIK.

Nobody is buying a £45k diesel 3-series privately - but I guess some people will take one on a lease deal.

Not driven one yet, but surely the 330e makes all other 3-series redundant?

[E65Ross]

The Vambo said:

From the ultimate driving machine to like a Lexus but uglier.

Who the eff signed off that?

Firstly, clearly we all like different things because the post directly above yours states a different opinion. Secondly, I'm not sure what being the ultimate driving machine has to do with looks? I'm pretty sure a McLaren Senna would be pretty good to drive around a track, yet I don't think many will find it an especially good looking thing, the 2 can be mutually exclusive, so I can't quite understand why you've mentioned that tagline that BMW used to use about a decade or two ago?

[Helicopter123]

That's a lot of cash for what is, a diesel 3 series.

[John Allison]

9k rpm said:

£50k is ridiculous! For £50k you could have a mildly used Bentley with only 100k miles.

Did you just suggest a 100k-mile Bentley as a reasonable alternative to a new diesel BMW..?
I assume you’re not a financial advisor

[Spitfires]

DanGroves said:

Meeeeoooooowwwww!!

I see what you did there

[Kosy]

John Allison said:

9k rpm said:

£50k is ridiculous! For £50k you could have a mildly used Bentley with only 100k miles.

Did you just suggest a 100k-mile Bentley as a reasonable alternative to a new diesel BMW..?
I assume you’re not a financial advisor

It took longer than expected but the bite came.

[E65Ross]

John Allison said:

9k rpm said:

£50k is ridiculous! For £50k you could have a mildly used Bentley with only 100k miles.

Did you just suggest a 100k-mile Bentley as a reasonable alternative to a new diesel BMW..?
I assume you’re not a financial advisor

I think his post was very, very much with a tongue firmly in cheek. It was a dig at all the people who give ridiculous suggestions.

[Skyman]

Marvin Trill said:

Skyman said:

Marvin Trill said:

Skyman said:

Marvin Trill said:

I get the "Diesel is all you ever need." thing, indeed they are efficient lumps. But a weekend over the Cotswolds in a MK7 Golf R confirms to me hot hatches are all the car you ever need.

Nonsense comment.

How so ?

Because there is more to life than a hot hatch. How obvious is that. Hope that responds to your epically daft question. And, fyi, I have a Golf R.

Put the handbags down mate. Of course there is more to life than hot hatches. You've gone on the offensive, but offered zero rebuttal of why it is wrong. Fyi I have several vehicles for different uses, from MAN trucks, a Freelander, a Vauxhall Vivaro and my Golf R. But a hot hatch is the only thing that ticks most of the boxes most of the time.

Edited by Marvin Trill on Monday 22 July 20:30

No handbags. But I am just thinking, if you can follow the logic. By your own admission, your experience is limited to a pretty poor sample of motoring (not so) greats, Golf R excepted. Therefore, when you say the hot hatch is pretty much all you need, I say, wtf do you really know.

[anonymous-user]

Marvin Trill said:

I get the "Diesel is all you ever need." thing, indeed they are efficient lumps. But a weekend over the Cotswolds in a MK7 Golf R confirms to me hot hatches are all the car you ever need.

After watching the moon landing, I’d say a lunar module is all the space craft you ever need.

[John Allison]

Kosy said:

John Allison said:

9k rpm said:

£50k is ridiculous! For £50k you could have a mildly used Bentley with only 100k miles.

Did you just suggest a 100k-mile Bentley as a reasonable alternative to a new diesel BMW..?
I assume you’re not a financial advisor

It took longer than expected but the bite came.

Dammit. Some kind of Pistonheads test...
I’m off to reply to the email from my bank asking me to remind them of my password...

[9k rpm]

E65Ross said:

John Allison said:

9k rpm said:

£50k is ridiculous! For £50k you could have a mildly used Bentley with only 100k miles.

Did you just suggest a 100k-mile Bentley as a reasonable alternative to a new diesel BMW..?
I assume you’re not a financial advisor

I think his post was very, very much with a tongue firmly in cheek. It was a dig at all the people who give ridiculous suggestions.

Indeed it was.

The irony is that I work in finance.

Edited by 9k rpm on Monday 22 July 20:57

[gigglebug]

Skyman said:

No handbags. But I am just thinking, if you can follow the logic. By your own admission, your experience is limited to a pretty poor sample of motoring (not so) greats, Golf R excepted. Therefore, when you say the hot hatch is pretty much all you need, I say, wtf do you really know.

You don't imagine that he might have had various other vehicles at some point?

[gigglebug]

yonex said:

After watching the moon landing, I’d say a lunar module is all the space craft you ever need.

The drop ship from Aliens would be pretty cool though.

[Shiv_P]

JamesRR said:

If the author thinks that a 330d has ‘just enough torque to be throttle adjustable’ then they aren’t driving it properly. My F30 320d has a fair whack less torque than this and is definitely throttle adjustable. Even an E46 M3 has less torque than my car and I’d hardly say it was anything but throttle adjustable.

Chris Harris quote time
F30 320d video
"you'd never call it throttle adjustable"

[Tintop2]

Going to show my ignorance... what does “throttle adjustable” mean please? It’s been mentioned in this thread a few times and Google turns up lots of stuff about adjusting throttle cables with the help of spanners... pretty sure no one is going to be doing that to their new 3 series regularly!

[Grindle]

Marvin Trill said:

I get the "Diesel is all you ever need." thing, indeed they are efficient lumps. But a weekend over the Cotswolds in a MK7 Golf R confirms to me hot hatches are all the car you ever need.

I found my 2016 Golf R MK 7 to be fast but to have a completely soulless engine and character. Sure it was quick on paper and actually out there in the thick of it but left me cold and i sold it within 2 months. The sound was tiring too rather than exciting.
The next car i had was a Porshce 2.7 Cayman and whilst not as quick on a spec sheet to 60 it was a dream to drive, albeit a coupe rather than a hot hatch.

[Grindle]

Anyone after that new 330D, just get a mint 335D X drive for £20K and get a Caterham for the track and occasional road fun.
335D has more power, 4wd, easily slips up to 350 bhp and as an owner i know everyone should own a Caterham once.