RE: Ferrari 360 Modena | The Brave Pill
Discussion
DBRacingGod said:
Electro1980 said:
I can’t see past the parking.
1) It’s crap parking in any car
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2) it may be cheap for what it is but it is still a £50k car. Parking it on the kerb like they are just nipping to the bank “just for 5 min. I just need to get £10 out” is unforgivable.
None more PH.1) It’s crap parking in any car
And
2) it may be cheap for what it is but it is still a £50k car. Parking it on the kerb like they are just nipping to the bank “just for 5 min. I just need to get £10 out” is unforgivable.
But then I do own an old MX5 and a white 320d (but not on finance I’m afraid)... Sorry, an NC 2.0 sports pack and an F30 powered by a 2l 4cl driven by the devils juice.
Electro1980 said:
I can’t see past the parking.
1) It’s crap parking in any car
And
2) it may be cheap for what it is but it is still a £50k car. Parking it on the kerb like they are just nipping to the bank “just for 5 min. I just need to get £10 out” is unforgivable.
WTF has the parking got to do with anything, literally anything!? 1) It’s crap parking in any car
And
2) it may be cheap for what it is but it is still a £50k car. Parking it on the kerb like they are just nipping to the bank “just for 5 min. I just need to get £10 out” is unforgivable.
Mits said:
blueg33 said:
I am in the market for one of these. Test drove one yesterday. F1 box was horrid, I need to find a manual.
The car is quite raw compared to my Evora, the steering a little more vague especially at low speeds. The Evora is as quick and the IPS box knocks the spots off the F1. But that V8 is lovely.
Sticky switches in the 360 are annoying and costly to fix.
To go fast from point to point, I reckon the Evora would be quicker, certainly easier. But that V8.......
Currently I am torn and looking for a manual to see if that is the decider.
I recently had one for sale but decided to keep it for a little longer.The car is quite raw compared to my Evora, the steering a little more vague especially at low speeds. The Evora is as quick and the IPS box knocks the spots off the F1. But that V8 is lovely.
Sticky switches in the 360 are annoying and costly to fix.
To go fast from point to point, I reckon the Evora would be quicker, certainly easier. But that V8.......
Currently I am torn and looking for a manual to see if that is the decider.
F1 boxes can be slow but I upgraded mine to a Challenge Stradale tcu and changes are smooth below 4K and very quick at higher rpms. £2k for this upgrade or £10k more to get a equivalent condition manual.
Sticky switches only really effect the window switches, just rubbed mine back to the plastic, no point getting refurbed as it will happen again.
I have a Challenge Stradale exhaust fitted, so 95% sound of a cs is no bad thing, really does scream at higher rpms.
Annual Servicing is £800 and add £700 for cambelts every third year at a Ferrari main dealer.
It’s been completely reliable in 5yrs, 11kmiles and costs between 2-3k per year for servicing and time related wear and tear.
No depreciation is a bonus and may go up in value as new Ferrari’s get more expensive dragging up good condition older models.
Edited by Mits on Saturday 27th July 09:19
Mates brother had one for 5 years until about 2 yrs ago,
Other than routine servicing, he only needed fbrake pads and a few bushes.
His is a manual though, the F1 is basically the same thing as an Alfa Selespeed and were a novelty for only a short period back in the day.
These always seemed a lot bigger than a 355, though not quite as desirable now they’ve aged, but if you choose well, arent all that expensive to run.
Other than routine servicing, he only needed fbrake pads and a few bushes.
His is a manual though, the F1 is basically the same thing as an Alfa Selespeed and were a novelty for only a short period back in the day.
These always seemed a lot bigger than a 355, though not quite as desirable now they’ve aged, but if you choose well, arent all that expensive to run.
blueg33 said:
I have looked closely at 3 cars. Sticky switches affected pretty much every black plastic surface In the cockpit from door trays to air vent surrounds.
Yes, this is a failing of Ferrari which they refuse to correct, even on modern cars. Currently all my controls and switches are out of the car being refinished (with a permanent coating) and the graphics laser re-etched. I did say running a Ferrari is a whole different kettle of fish to just buying one.The Dictator said:
Electro1980 said:
I can’t see past the parking.
1) It’s crap parking in any car
And
2) it may be cheap for what it is but it is still a £50k car. Parking it on the kerb like they are just nipping to the bank “just for 5 min. I just need to get £10 out” is unforgivable.
WTF has the parking got to do with anything, literally anything!? 1) It’s crap parking in any car
And
2) it may be cheap for what it is but it is still a £50k car. Parking it on the kerb like they are just nipping to the bank “just for 5 min. I just need to get £10 out” is unforgivable.
t. The pictures sell the car. This is about a car for sale. It has more to do with anything than your bhing. Electro1980 said:
The Dictator said:
Electro1980 said:
I can’t see past the parking.
1) It’s crap parking in any car
And
2) it may be cheap for what it is but it is still a £50k car. Parking it on the kerb like they are just nipping to the bank “just for 5 min. I just need to get £10 out” is unforgivable.
WTF has the parking got to do with anything, literally anything!? 1) It’s crap parking in any car
And
2) it may be cheap for what it is but it is still a £50k car. Parking it on the kerb like they are just nipping to the bank “just for 5 min. I just need to get £10 out” is unforgivable.
t. The pictures sell the car. This is about a car for sale. It has more to do with anything than your bhing. SuperSonicSloth said:
I've always struggled to love these. I understand completely that it's objectively better than the 355 in many ways, but that face does nothing for me. I'm superficial and if I'm going to marry something wallet busting, she'd better be a looker.
I'm the same and I didn't like the design of this when it first came out and time hasn't changed my view either(sometimes cars grow on you regards looks but not this one for me). The 355 though!
MDL111 said:
Electro1980 said:
I can’t see past the parking.
1) It’s crap parking in any car
And
2) it may be cheap for what it is but it is still a £50k car. Parking it on the kerb like they are just nipping to the bank “just for 5 min. I just need to get £10 out” is unforgivable.
The seller is Slades - from memory they take all/a lot their pics in front of the showroom like that 1) It’s crap parking in any car
And
2) it may be cheap for what it is but it is still a £50k car. Parking it on the kerb like they are just nipping to the bank “just for 5 min. I just need to get £10 out” is unforgivable.
Always been curious about these, but honestly, I didn't buy them when they were 30k, so I cant see me buying one at 60k.
If anything, I always thought the 430 was the better car, and I don't really care about looks, but I'm more interested in fitness of purpose. The 430 is both subjectively, and objectively, a better car.
And in saying that, my money wouldn't go to either of these, because in a way, to go out and buy a Ferrari is just too lemming-like. Anyone with a bit of money can do it, and the safe bet is just running with the herd. Live a little. Get out of the comfort zone. Do something that will make you both sweat, and make your bits fizz (Ultima GTR Evolution).
If anything, I always thought the 430 was the better car, and I don't really care about looks, but I'm more interested in fitness of purpose. The 430 is both subjectively, and objectively, a better car.
And in saying that, my money wouldn't go to either of these, because in a way, to go out and buy a Ferrari is just too lemming-like. Anyone with a bit of money can do it, and the safe bet is just running with the herd. Live a little. Get out of the comfort zone. Do something that will make you both sweat, and make your bits fizz (Ultima GTR Evolution).
big_rob_sydney said:
Always been curious about these, but honestly, I didn't buy them when they were 30k, so I cant see me buying one at 60k.
If anything, I always thought the 430 was the better car, and I don't really care about looks, but I'm more interested in fitness of purpose. The 430 is both subjectively, and objectively, a better car.
And in saying that, my money wouldn't go to either of these, because in a way, to go out and buy a Ferrari is just too lemming-like. Anyone with a bit of money can do it, and the safe bet is just running with the herd. Live a little. Get out of the comfort zone. Do something that will make you both sweat, and make your bits fizz (Ultima GTR Evolution).
Objectively, the 430 is clearly the better car, I don’t think anyone would argue the contrary. But a lot of this is not about objectivity, it is about a subjective decision driven by emotion. This isn’t living a little, it’s living a lot, it’s heart ruling the head. Funding the ridiculous running costs of any Ferrari is not in anyone’s comfort zone, no matter how much wonga they have.If anything, I always thought the 430 was the better car, and I don't really care about looks, but I'm more interested in fitness of purpose. The 430 is both subjectively, and objectively, a better car.
And in saying that, my money wouldn't go to either of these, because in a way, to go out and buy a Ferrari is just too lemming-like. Anyone with a bit of money can do it, and the safe bet is just running with the herd. Live a little. Get out of the comfort zone. Do something that will make you both sweat, and make your bits fizz (Ultima GTR Evolution).
s m said:
snake_oil said:
blueg33 said:
I am in the market for one of these. Test drove one yesterday. F1 box was horrid, I need to find a manual.
Having merely driven one on a supercar experience, I have to agree. Old tech and extremely ponderous.No desire to own one after having tried one on a track
Maybe it was a tired example though
big_rob_sydney said:
Always been curious about these, but honestly, I didn't buy them when they were 30k, so I cant see me buying one at 60k.
If anything, I always thought the 430 was the better car, and I don't really care about looks, but I'm more interested in fitness of purpose. The 430 is both subjectively, and objectively, a better car.
And in saying that, my money wouldn't go to either of these, because in a way, to go out and buy a Ferrari is just too lemming-like. Anyone with a bit of money can do it, and the safe bet is just running with the herd. Live a little. Get out of the comfort zone. Do something that will make you both sweat, and make your bits fizz (Ultima GTR Evolution).
Ultimas are very cool, but hardly comparable to a Ferrari that you can use as a daily driver - also good luck finding an Evo for sale / waiting time last time I asked was 2 years plus for a new one (and a lot more money than a used 360)If anything, I always thought the 430 was the better car, and I don't really care about looks, but I'm more interested in fitness of purpose. The 430 is both subjectively, and objectively, a better car.
And in saying that, my money wouldn't go to either of these, because in a way, to go out and buy a Ferrari is just too lemming-like. Anyone with a bit of money can do it, and the safe bet is just running with the herd. Live a little. Get out of the comfort zone. Do something that will make you both sweat, and make your bits fizz (Ultima GTR Evolution).
Edit for auto correct
Edited by MDL111 on Saturday 27th July 13:08
blueg33 said:
MDL111 said:
I prefer the styling of the 355 and best as I could tell the 360 is not materially faster, which is a good thing anyway as imo 430 onwards are a little too fast to be enjoyable on the road. 355/360 with a manual is bliss - they also sound much better than the bigger capacity engines that followed imo
Servicing costs of the 355 were very high (cambelt is every 3 years though, so same as the 360 I believe)
It’s much cheaper to change the cam belt on a 360. Servicing costs of the 355 were very high (cambelt is every 3 years though, so same as the 360 I believe)
430 is a better car, but then a 458 is better and so on. I decided to have a 360, f80 m3 and a i3s rather than a 458 and a daily. It’s all about choices and what suits your lifestyle. I have a analogue Ferrari, modern m3 and environmentally friendly electric car, covers most basis for me.
Mits said:
430 is a better car, but then a 458 is better and so on. I decided to have a 360, f80 m3 and a i3s rather than a 458 and a daily. It’s all about choices and what suits your lifestyle. I have a analogue Ferrari, modern m3 and environmentally friendly electric car, covers most basis for me.
I really do think better is relative / faster and more advanced, yes, but not necessarily better for an individual. I have no interest in a 458 and consciously picked a 430 due to the gearbox (not a fan of DCT) although I do think the 430 is one of the least pretty cars they ever built - certainly of the 355 - 458 time period. The 488 is also not to my liking, the Tributo looks better, but still can’t get on with the air intakes on both of these All very personal and everybody has slightly different criteria - all great cars and an event to drive, which is why so many people want/buy one
MDL111 said:
blueg33 said:
MDL111 said:
I prefer the styling of the 355 and best as I could tell the 360 is not materially faster, which is a good thing anyway as imo 430 onwards are a little too fast to be enjoyable on the road. 355/360 with a manual is bliss - they also sound much better than the bigger capacity engines that followed imo
Servicing costs of the 355 were very high (cambelt is every 3 years though, so same as the 360 I believe)
It’s much cheaper to change the cam belt on a 360. Servicing costs of the 355 were very high (cambelt is every 3 years though, so same as the 360 I believe)
I think the 360 is a far prettier car than the F430 which looks too fussy. I guess I'm in the minority here but I also think it looks better than the F355 but I get the appeal of its looks. I think there's an inherent dislike for the 360 probably as Clarkson bad mouthed the twitchy handling and he preferred his 355 but of all the mid-V8 Ferraris I think I would choose that (regardless of cost).
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