RE: Ferrari 360 Modena | The Brave Pill

[Jex]

blueg33 said:

Hindsight is an accurate science. 15 or so years ago I was offered a Dino for £27k ! I couldn’t afford it.........

Oh no!

[mat205125]

Prices for manual versions of these are only going to get more and more out of reach.

Really like these, however think that the price for good cars has already bottomed out.

Interested to know people's experiences who've owned or driven both the 360 and the Gallardo. Mostly interested in the manuals, however the F1 versus the E-Gear would be interesting too.

[REDCARISMINE]

It’s not bad but there’s what 90 for sale on PistonHeads not really rare or sustainable for price
Bubble waiting to burst
Compare to noble with only what about 5 for sale

[86wasagoodyear]

This is all very well - yet another multi-cylinder worth tens of thousands - but is it me or is Pill getting a bit monotonous ?

I'd like to see more Pill-ery at real-world money. Big Bravery to Price Ratio.

Maybe this...?

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...


Or who's gonna pay 6 grand for the privilege of running this...?

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

"...lots of invoices for previous repairs and servicing..." ROTFL, and plenty more to come in future :-)

[MCBrowncoat]

86wasagoodyear said:

This is all very well - yet another multi-cylinder worth tens of thousands - but is it me or is Pill getting a bit monotonous ?

I'd like to see more Pill-ery at real-world money. Big Bravery to Price Ratio.

Maybe this...?

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...


Or who's gonna pay 6 grand for the privilege of running this...?

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

"...lots of invoices for previous repairs and servicing..." ROTFL, and plenty more to come in future :-)

Jalopnik has a good series of articles called Nice Price or Crack Pipe which I think is about what you're asking for. Maybe PH could do an equivalent?

This was a good recent one:

https://jalopnik.com/at-7-500-would-you-get-this-n...

Edited by MCBrowncoat on Monday 29th July 23:42

[GranCab]

REDCARISMINE said:

It’s not bad but there’s what 90 for sale on PistonHeads not really rare or sustainable for price
Bubble waiting to burst
Compare to noble with only what about 5 for sale

Then compare how many of each were originally sold in the UK .....

[blueg33]

GranCab said:

REDCARISMINE said:

It’s not bad but there’s what 90 for sale on PistonHeads not really rare or sustainable for price
Bubble waiting to burst
Compare to noble with only what about 5 for sale

Then compare how many of each were originally sold in the UK .....

Ha that was my thought too. I wouldn't be surprised if its much easier to sell a 360 than a Noble

[MitchT]

I think the 360 looks better each time Ferrari release a new car. Far more elegant and uncluttered looking than any of its successors, bar the 458 which I feel is the nicest looking Ferrari since the 355.

snake_oil said:

blueg33 said:

I am in the market for one of these. Test drove one yesterday. F1 box was horrid, I need to find a manual.

Having merely driven one on a supercar experience, I have to agree. Old tech and extremely ponderous.

On the other hand, I drove one on a supercar experience and loved the F1 shift. It seemed very fast and smooth. Maybe there were different updates and I had one of the better ones or maybe it's just that I hadn't driven a paddle shift before then and had nothing better to compare it [unfavourably] with. Right after that I drove a Lamborghini Gallardo which was horrific by comparison. The 360's shifts felt seamless but the Gallardo nearly threw me through the windscreen every time I shifted and it momentarily lost forward momentum - it was horrid! Everything about the Gallardo felt poorly resolved compared with the 360 though.

johnwilliams77 said:

Wait till you hear one passing you with a tubi or similar, incredible.

Indeed. I was rolling toward a give way as a 360 turned into the road that I was soon going to exit from. After turning into the road he accelerated hard and must have hit the red line and shifted up right as he passed me - the sound was biblical and I felt like I'd been punched in the side by the shock wave it created. I was half expecting to find the driver's side door of my car caved in when I got home and got out!

[K50 DEL]

So this one is mine and probably is the ultimate brave pill

Bought in 2013 whilst I was living in Dubai.....

From a man who didn't know anything about the car
with no history
various things not working
pi$$ing fuel all over the place (1/2 a tank in 15 minutes)

I paid the grand sum of £28k for the car, with around 6k miles on the clock.

Was possibly slightly foolhardy but at the time I could afford the risk and I was quietly confident it was a good car.


The first hint I was right in my confidence came when I found 6 years of history neatly folded in the document wallet and over the last 6 years I've not regretted my purchase, it cost me £10k to restore back to full health and I've had a few big-ticket items over that time as well, some I chose to do, some required.

However it was my daily driver for 2 years, and has now covered around 10k miles in my ownership.

There's a full breakdown of costs in my garage section on here.

I love the car, but am quietly thinking of changing to an MP4-12C as having had regular use of one a few years ago it's an ownership itch I'd really like to scratch....... that or a manual G spyder anyway lol


And I fully agree with the comment above about the Tubi.... cost me £1250 for mine, and a lot of faffing about with suitcases to get it from Oxfordshire to Dubai but god what a noise

Edited by K50 DEL on Thursday 1st August 21:50

[PS2018]

Would £50k/low 50’s be feasible for a clean manual 360 coupe if not too fussy about interior/exterior colour? Or need to wait a few more months to see if prices trickle lower

[RoverP6B]

After reading mwstewart's 430 thread, I would be terrified of Ferrari's build quality and lax maintenance (even with full main dealer service history)... I'd be running in the opposite direction, towards a 997.2 C2S, or a Corvette (loads of C7s about and there's what looks like a decent C6 Z06 on here for £38k).

[johnwilliams77]

RoverP6B said:

After reading mwstewart's 430 thread, I would be terrified of Ferrari's build quality and lax maintenance (even with full main dealer service history)... I'd be running in the opposite direction, towards a 997.2 C2S, or a Corvette (loads of C7s about and there's what looks like a decent C6 Z06 on here for £38k).

Why? What did he uncover?

[blueg33]

RoverP6B said:

After reading mwstewart's 430 thread, I would be terrified of Ferrari's build quality and lax maintenance (even with full main dealer service history)... I'd be running in the opposite direction, towards a 997.2 C2S, or a Corvette (loads of C7s about and there's what looks like a decent C6 Z06 on here for £38k).

Sadly the Porsche is an obvious and IMO boring option. It dimply isn’t a Ferrari and lacks the excitement and sense of occasion. A 993 c2s might be better if you fancy a Porsche. As for the corvette, it’s numbers are great, but still not a Ferrari and LHD only.

[Garvin]

RoverP6B said:

After reading mwstewart's 430 thread, I would be terrified of Ferrari's build quality and lax maintenance (even with full main dealer service history)... I'd be running in the opposite direction, towards a 997.2 C2S, or a Corvette (loads of C7s about and there's what looks like a decent C6 Z06 on here for £38k).

I won't defend Ferrari's build quality as some of the basic design on the 90's cars does not stand up to scrutiny against a Ford let alone an Audi or Porsche. The mechanicals are well designed and, in the main, strong and its clear that's where all the design and money went rather than on bodywork and trim etc. However, Porsche have had their fair share of very serious and very expensive engine problems!

[Garvin]

blueg33 said:

Sadly the Porsche is an obvious and IMO boring option. It dimply isn’t a Ferrari and lacks the excitement and sense of occasion. A 993 c2s might be better if you fancy a Porsche. As for the corvette, it’s numbers are great, but still not a Ferrari and LHD only.

The latest C8 'Stingray' is now mid-engine and it's reported that it will be available as a RHD as well!

[blueg33]

Indeed. But that wasn’t the comparison given, it will depreciate heavily, and looks wise is a big OTT

[2manycars]

blueg33 said:

I am in the market for one of these. Test drove one yesterday. F1 box was horrid, I need to find a manual.

The car is quite raw compared to my Evora, the steering a little more vague especially at low speeds. The Evora is as quick and the IPS box knocks the spots off the F1. But that V8 is lovely.

Sticky switches in the 360 are annoying and costly to fix.

To go fast from point to point, I reckon the Evora would be quicker, certainly easier. But that V8.......

Currently I am torn and looking for a manual to see if that is the decider.

I’m currently selling my ‘03 Manual Spider, very nice car. Only selling as I have a 360 CS and I don’t see the point in both. It’s at Ferrari Stratstone (Wilmslow) if you’re interested anyway.

[mwstewart]

I haven't read much on here, but LOL at the parking comments - that's Slades garage, isn't it? They don't normally deal in tat - you do pay for it, mind.

[crankedup]

Garvin said:

blueg33 said:

A mate has one with a tubi. When waiting for the ferry in Plymouth I could hear his car 10 minutes before he arrived in the ferry queue.

I have a Tubi fitted to the F355. When I take it in for servicing Mrs Garvin usually follows me to give me a lift back home. The first time she didn’t know where the Indy’s premises were and she got delayed behind me from traffic and was well out of sight. I did slow down but short of stopping and waiting on the hard shoulder of the dual carriageway for her to catch up there was not much I could do.

I arrived at the Indy and she arrived some minutes later. I apologised for getting out of sight and hoped she hadn’t had too much trouble finding the Indy. Not a problem she said I could hear where you were all the way!

I detest noisy cars being driven on public roads, BUT any Italian car and TVR are excluded, bloody lovely sounds.

[mmarksx19]

PS2018 said:

Would £50k/low 50’s be feasible for a clean manual 360 coupe if not too fussy about interior/exterior colour? Or need to wait a few more months to see if prices trickle lower

It is feasible if you do as I did and forget about the low mileage. Mine has 60,000+ miles on it but full history including receipts. Not perfect (scratches and stonechips plus usual wear and tear) but drives wonderfully and that's what I bought it for. It will never be ultra desirable due to the mileage but it was my opportunity to own a Ferrari and I took it! Also, my experience through looking at them when I bought mine and through the forums is that the low mileage (and therefore expensive) ones are actually dearer to run. Seals dry out, electrics go wonky because they have just sat for 11 months of the year.