RE: Megane Trophy-R = £72k
Discussion
janesmith1950 said:
If BMW offered something properly stripped out and track prepped there would be three feet of spaff corner to corner.
BMW did it with the M4 GTS and M4 DTM edition the response was the same on PH https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=16...nickfrog said:
CraigV6 said:
Ha ha. So defensive.
You should relax and spot a little wind up before jumping in.
I stand by the fact that the £51k car is a nothing. It’s an opinion, don’t get bent out of shape about it.
Ha ha. So defensive.You should relax and spot a little wind up before jumping in.
I stand by the fact that the £51k car is a nothing. It’s an opinion, don’t get bent out of shape about it.
You should relax too.
I guess it's an opinion, and without any rationale behind it then yes I can see now it can only be a wind up as it makes no sense whatsoever.
CraigV6 said:
I’d really like to find out the difference around the same tracks between 280 Cup (just to appease you), Trophy, Trophy R (proper, not pretend) and see what the extra cash gives you time wise.
Renault appear reluctant to test / publish the times of the various models on the same circuits.
If you think the crucial difference is lap times then I can understand your confusion. The main difference will be feel and endurance. Being able to sustain 10/12 laps without cooking the brakes/tyres and without damaging the outer shoulders is a great benefit on your average track day but my guess is track days are not your thing, nothing wrong with that btw.Renault appear reluctant to test / publish the times of the various models on the same circuits.
Edited by nickfrog on Friday 9th August 19:33
Keep it up, you are winning the internet.
maxdb said:
Out of all the cars you can buy for £72k..
You can pick up a Gallardo for less!!
Surely you can understand that the running costs of a knackered old Gallardo would be in somewhat of a different league to a brand new warrantied up Renault. I can imagine a £10k+ Lambo service being quite common.You can pick up a Gallardo for less!!
Guess how much a set of tyres for a Gallardo are.....and the brakes???
janesmith1950 said:
'properly'
So no rear seats, roll cage, paper door cards, titanium exhaust, carbon seats, water injection, close to 500bhp, adjustable suspension, adjustable aero, carbon wheels, carbon boot, carbon bonnet, carbon roof and carbon brakes doesn’t mean BMW have done a limited run track focused car “properly”???Don’t get why people are still so hung up on the price / price difference
People paid a metric ton of money for a Weissach pack on a 918 (mag rims, a bit of carbon, fancy wrap,marginal weight loss) or for a M3 CLR /M4 GTS instead of a normal one (or whatever it was called) or a Black Series vs a normal AMG etc etc. etc
Why is doing the same on a Megane so shocking
If I had more money, I’d love one - I adore my RS Clio, so expect this will be a great drive too
People paid a metric ton of money for a Weissach pack on a 918 (mag rims, a bit of carbon, fancy wrap,marginal weight loss) or for a M3 CLR /M4 GTS instead of a normal one (or whatever it was called) or a Black Series vs a normal AMG etc etc. etc
Why is doing the same on a Megane so shocking
If I had more money, I’d love one - I adore my RS Clio, so expect this will be a great drive too
Elatino1 said:
Surely you can understand that the running costs of a knackered old Gallardo would be in somewhat of a different league to a brand new warrantied up Renault. I can imagine a £10k+ Lambo service being quite common.
Guess how much a set of tyres for a Gallardo are.....and the brakes???
Definitely the running costs will be higher but surely if anyone wanted to put down £72k on a car they would want something a bit more special than a stripped out Megane? There's so much choice out there for less money. If it was me looking for a track focused car for that kind of money then I would be looking at Ariel Atoms, Lotus, Cayman GT4 etc - or just pick up a £60k Gallardo and put £10k a side for a years worth of servicing before selling it on Guess how much a set of tyres for a Gallardo are.....and the brakes???
maxdb said:
Elatino1 said:
Surely you can understand that the running costs of a knackered old Gallardo would be in somewhat of a different league to a brand new warrantied up Renault. I can imagine a £10k+ Lambo service being quite common.
Guess how much a set of tyres for a Gallardo are.....and the brakes???
Definitely the running costs will be higher but surely if anyone wanted to put down £72k on a car they would want something a bit more special than a stripped out Megane? There's so much choice out there for less money. If it was me looking for a track focused car for that kind of money then I would be looking at Ariel Atoms, Lotus, Cayman GT4 etc - or just pick up a £60k Gallardo and put £10k a side for a years worth of servicing before selling it on Guess how much a set of tyres for a Gallardo are.....and the brakes???
DB89 said:
Saw this last night. Had a poke around it and it’s very nice! The first UK RHD car belonging to Renault UK.
Interesting so are there going to be 33 cars in the UK or 32 of which one belongs to Renault UK. I assume it was the full fat 72k spec version? Would be interesting if it turns out that the one "full fat" 72k version is actually allocated to Renault UK.
nickfrog said:
That's fair enough but I don't get your rationale. There is only 1 (one) £72k car. So if you miss out on it, what do you buy?
If you do a lot track days, the £72k model will be a big liability in terms of brakes consumables while the carbon wheels can be almost matched by lightweight 18s alloy wheels for a small fraction of the cost. The non-R Trophy has most of the extra weight without the added front camber nor the enhanced cooling so not really track optimised.
Following your train of thought, then why not buy a £26k 280 Cup on track friendly 18s, which will give you a Trophy less 20bhp?
Where does it end?
To be fair you can buy camber top mounts for 300 quid and run additional cooling to brakes (not forgetting you'll neer a track suitable pad anyway like a pagid rs29) and better oil and water radiators for say 1500If you do a lot track days, the £72k model will be a big liability in terms of brakes consumables while the carbon wheels can be almost matched by lightweight 18s alloy wheels for a small fraction of the cost. The non-R Trophy has most of the extra weight without the added front camber nor the enhanced cooling so not really track optimised.
Following your train of thought, then why not buy a £26k 280 Cup on track friendly 18s, which will give you a Trophy less 20bhp?
Where does it end?
Edited by nickfrog on Friday 9th August 09:54
I think we can all agree Renault are charging 51-72k because they know their cult fans who are wealthy or various car collectors will buy them at almost any price.
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