RE: Megane Trophy-R = £72k

RE: Megane Trophy-R = £72k

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nickfrog

21,210 posts

218 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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xjay1337 said:
To be fair you can buy camber top mounts for 300 quid and run additional cooling to brakes (not forgetting you'll neer a track suitable pad anyway like a pagid rs29) and better oil and water radiators for say 1500
price.
Yes sure although in the context of a trackable daily, the RS29s can be a little marginal on the road. I got a great result out of basic PFC Z rated instead, which are far more road friendly if like me you don't want to swap your pads on every track day. They do need a better fluid though. I am also still hoping the std 1 deg will be enough with 4ws to give the AD08Rs a good basis for even wear.

xjay1337 said:
I think we can all agree Renault are charging 51-72k because they know their cult fans who are wealthy or various car collectors will buy them at almost any price.
I think there is still a lot of price sensitivity and that at £51k it has very little track ready competition while still being usable daily. The GT4 springs to mind but you can't buy it new.
You simply couldn't buy the weight saving on a fully homologated base Trophy.

Edited by nickfrog on Wednesday 14th August 12:05

terryb

978 posts

245 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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DB89 said:



Saw this last night. Had a poke around it and it’s very nice! The first UK RHD car belonging to Renault UK.
Looking good. Apparently there will be 2 press cars and this is the first - the other will be the standard spec and we should be reading reviews on UK roads next month smile

So who's had an allocation confirmed and what spec? Should we start a list??

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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nickfrog said:
xjay1337 said:
To be fair you can buy camber top mounts for 300 quid and run additional cooling to brakes (not forgetting you'll neer a track suitable pad anyway like a pagid rs29) and better oil and water radiators for say 1500
price.
Yes sure although in the context of a trackable daily, the RS29s can be a little marginal on the road. I got a great result out of basic PFC Z rated instead, which are far more road friendly if like me you don't want to swap your pads on every track day. They do need a better fluid though. I am also still hoping the std 1 deg will be enough with 4ws to give the AD08Rs a good basis for even wear.

xjay1337 said:
I think we can all agree Renault are charging 51-72k because they know their cult fans who are wealthy or various car collectors will buy them at almost any price.
I think there is still a lot of price sensitivity and that at £51k it has very little track ready competition while still being usable daily. The GT4 springs to mind but you can't buy it new.
You simply couldn't buy the weight saving on a fully homologated base Trophy.

Edited by nickfrog on Wednesday 14th August 12:05
I have rs29 on my car and they are fine daily? Get noisy though if they aren't hot

I'm sure 1 degree would be fine as a starting point. Haven't seen much lightweight bodywork yet but carbon bonnet/boot/doors were available aftermarket on the older megane

And to be honest I'd have more fun in a 275 with a hybrid and lots of mods than a brand new 50-75k collector car

Half the fun is not caring if you stack it!

nickfrog

21,210 posts

218 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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xjay1337 said:
to be honest I'd have more fun in a 275 with a hybrid and lots of mods than a brand new 50-75k collector car

Half the fun is not caring if you stack it!
I guess it's all about budget. I really enjoyed the 275 Cup S just on pads, tyres and fluid. It felt fine power wise, even at the Ring.

As for stacking it, there is always track insurance and it's not like the heavily moded 275 will only be worth £12.50.

Koolkat969

988 posts

100 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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And the debate goes on as to whether the Megane is the best choice out there for your money.......
https://www-thesun-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/ww...

Leins

9,480 posts

149 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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Koolkat969 said:
And the debate goes on as to whether the Megane is the best choice out there for your money.......
https://www-thesun-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/ww...
Fantastic published review there of two cars having only driven one of the them

terryb

978 posts

245 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Leins said:
Fantastic published review there of two cars having only driven one of the them
lol, I saw this and thought the same too. The whole purpose of the Trophy-R is purely as a track car (to me at least), so let's see a balanced review of the 2 of them on track - or rather an original GT4 as the Ring lap time is identical to the Trophy-R

When I get mine, I'll be able to offer my thougts having owned a GT4 and taken it out on track plenty of times.

I wonder if they've sold all the allocations as yet?

moonigan

2,144 posts

242 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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terryb said:
I wonder if they've sold all the allocations as yet?
Spoke to my dealer today and was told they have 2 orders so far, both for the standard car. He also said they expect them to be delivered in October.

terryb

978 posts

245 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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moonigan said:
Spoke to my dealer today and was told they have 2 orders so far, both for the standard car. He also said they expect them to be delivered in October.
My dealer has 2 orders too - both carbon wheels. Their computer systems will hopefully be updated this week and will have more visibility of the build process. Still hoping for end of Sept for the Nurburgring trackday smile

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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terryb said:
My dealer has 2 orders too - both carbon wheels. Their computer systems will hopefully be updated this week and will have more visibility of the build process. Still hoping for end of Sept for the Nurburgring trackday smile
Are you losing an existing car to add this to the paddock or is it an additional toy?

terryb

978 posts

245 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Welshbeef said:
Are you losing an existing car to add this to the paddock or is it an additional toy?
Yep - 1 RS out, 1 RS in biggrin

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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terryb said:
Yep - 1 RS out, 1 RS in biggrin
The GT3 or the E92 M3 Performance?

terryb

978 posts

245 months

Thursday 5th September 2019
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Welshbeef said:
The GT3 or the E92 M3 Performance?
Lol, that was a long time ago - need to update my Garage. This is the one


terryb

978 posts

245 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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1st UK road test is now online from Auto Express - expect to see EVO magazine's review soon smile

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/megane/10781...

Love the ending to this article - seems like I've ordered the "perfect spec" biggrin

"Renault is building just 500 examples of the Trophy-R, with just 32 coming to the UK. Despite this, and the amazing results of Renault Sport’s work, the £51,140 asking price will appear utterly bonkers.

And that’s before options. The carbon wheels, wonderful though they are, cost £12,000. The carbon brakes cost another £9,000, too, though that fact will be moot for most: only thirty carbon-braked cars will be produced, with just two of them allocated for the UK. In reality, then, you’re looking at £63,140 for a Trophy R in its perfect spec. Is it worth it? Absolutely"

Leins

9,480 posts

149 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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I suspect this is going to be a weapon of a car Terry. Hope you get it in time for the Ring

moonigan

2,144 posts

242 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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terryb said:
1st UK road test is now online from Auto Express - expect to see EVO magazine's review soon smile

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/megane/10781...

Love the ending to this article - seems like I've ordered the "perfect spec" biggrin

"Renault is building just 500 examples of the Trophy-R, with just 32 coming to the UK. Despite this, and the amazing results of Renault Sport’s work, the £51,140 asking price will appear utterly bonkers.

And that’s before options. The carbon wheels, wonderful though they are, cost £12,000. The carbon brakes cost another £9,000, too, though that fact will be moot for most: only thirty carbon-braked cars will be produced, with just two of them allocated for the UK. In reality, then, you’re looking at £63,140 for a Trophy R in its perfect spec. Is it worth it? Absolutely"
EVO review is in and they moan about the brakes and how unyielding the suspension is which I suspect is because they didn't bother to get underneath the car and adjust the Ohlins. On my JCW the difference between 0-10 clicks was night and day with anything below 5 almost undrivable on UK roads and then 10-20 the same again.

https://www.evo.co.uk/renault/megane-275-trophy/20...

CallorFold

832 posts

134 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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DB89 said:



Saw this last night. Had a poke around it and it’s very nice! The first UK RHD car belonging to Renault UK.
Saw that new Meg RS at the end of August parked up at Caffeine and Machine (Stratford / Ettington)

ecsrobin

17,147 posts

166 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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moonigan said:
EVO review is in and they moan about the brakes and how unyielding the suspension is which I suspect is because they didn't bother to get underneath the car and adjust the Ohlins. On my JCW the difference between 0-10 clicks was night and day with anything below 5 almost undrivable on UK roads and then 10-20 the same again.

https://www.evo.co.uk/renault/megane-275-trophy/20...
They do mention suspension is a let down as configured in their defence.

They’re also moaning about the carbon brakes which is understandable. Would of been good if they could have compared both carbon version and non carbon for a comparison.

terryb

978 posts

245 months

Saturday 7th September 2019
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Full review in EVO magazine today - more in depth than the web version. They are suitably impressed with it’s on track performance, as you would expect and finish off by saying that to get the best on the road they will need to adjust the suspension and basically leads you to think that there will be another review in due course. I’m sure it will be included in their Track Car of the Year feature in a few months.

Also, seems like the non ceramic braked car, may be better on the road if the braking feel is better - but also a more relevant test as only 1 UK customer car with the ceramic brakes - the other is the Renault UK car.

kmpowell

2,935 posts

229 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Harry’s just put this live...

https://youtu.be/k4wmG59E1y0

smile