RE: Megane Trophy-R = £72k
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. But we have to wait for it, lol HTP99 said:
Quickmoose said:
Is the hatchback welded shut then?
3 opening openings when only one is needed...by design...?
Ehh, it gives access to the boot, may be useful if you fancy a road trip somewhere in it! 3 opening openings when only one is needed...by design...?
You have a spare set of wheels (?!….that you want to take everywhere) and yo want to go on road trips.
How many openings do you need?
1 ….2...or 3?
I'm pretty sure there are plenty of 3 door cars that manage these duties.... so keeping the rear doors operational, opposed to welded shut for "track focus" rigidity,...because of 'design'.....nah.
Quickmoose said:
HTP99 said:
Quickmoose said:
Is the hatchback welded shut then?
3 opening openings when only one is needed...by design...?
Ehh, it gives access to the boot, may be useful if you fancy a road trip somewhere in it! 3 opening openings when only one is needed...by design...?
You have a spare set of wheels (?!….that you want to take everywhere) and yo want to go on road trips.
How many openings do you need?
1 ….2...or 3?
I'm pretty sure there are plenty of 3 door cars that manage these duties.... so keeping the rear doors operational, opposed to welded shut for "track focus" rigidity,...because of 'design'.....nah.
I am sure they cope very well. But if you do have better access, why compromise it. I don't know how much more torsional rigidity the welding would bring but my guess not a lot. Modern cars seem to have such high torsional rigidity, particularly in 5 door guise as opposed to 3 that you very quickly get to the point of very low return even if you add more.
Quickmoose said:
hmm...can make excuses for pretty much anything...
how do people cope with coupes and 3 door hatches? a mystery.
They get on with it, as would I if I owned such a car, however the Megane has 5 drs, so a bonus.how do people cope with coupes and 3 door hatches? a mystery.
I really fail to see the issue of having the doors there, if they were welded up it would look a bit odd, as for making the car stiffer if welded up, I'm sure Renault would have looked into it and decided it wasn't worth doing.
Quickmoose said:
Wonderfully focused engineering.
A history that make the RS department a group to be reckoned with.
but in this unashamedly track focused £70k+ car...
practicality over how you load a spare set of wheels and tyres wins over marginal torsional rigidity....
ok.
Give RS a call and tell them how it's done A history that make the RS department a group to be reckoned with.
but in this unashamedly track focused £70k+ car...
practicality over how you load a spare set of wheels and tyres wins over marginal torsional rigidity....
ok.
Perhaps the reality is that welding the rear doors would have implied more homologation work/testing for very little gain yet disproportional cost to amortise on such low volume (500 cars).
By the way, most of the cars were £51k as only 1 was £72k. And amusingly the euro price was in line with inflation compared to the Mk3, they just reflected the £ loss of value. I am not even sure the Mk3 was torsionally more rigid as 3 doors tend to be less rigid and the new platform is bound to be inherently stiffer. As I said, once you have a very rigid platform, there is a point where you have nothing to gain.
Edited by nickfrog on Tuesday 3rd December 14:45
nickfrog said:
Give RS a call and tell them how it's done
Perhaps the reality is that welding the rear doors would have implied more homologation work/testing for very little gain yet disproportional cost to amortise on such low volume (500 cars).
By the way, most of the cars were £51k as only 1 was £72k. And amusingly the euro price was in line with inflation compared to the Mk3, they just reflected the £ loss of value. I am not even sure the Mk3 was torsionally more rigid as 3 doors tend to be less rigid.
I did.Perhaps the reality is that welding the rear doors would have implied more homologation work/testing for very little gain yet disproportional cost to amortise on such low volume (500 cars).
By the way, most of the cars were £51k as only 1 was £72k. And amusingly the euro price was in line with inflation compared to the Mk3, they just reflected the £ loss of value. I am not even sure the Mk3 was torsionally more rigid as 3 doors tend to be less rigid.
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