RE: Megane Trophy-R = £72k

[Harry_523]

Andy83n said:

..but it's a Renault so

£0 deposit & £239 pm 0% finance over four years* with three years free insurance and servicing

• with just a £61,089 final payment

To be honest, its pretty likely that these would be worth 61k or more in 4 years time, so that technically not unrealistic, however sadly finance doesnt work like that :/

[RumbleOfThunder]

Such a shame that the price, 50k and now 75k are quite understandably making a mockery out of a brilliant record. PR win to PR disaster.

[WCZ]

Nigel_O said:

Am I getting old, or is the use of "rims" instead of "wheels", REALLY irritating?

Regardless, lets have a comparison...

A brand new Renault 5-door hatch with some very attractive bolt-on bits, within a couple of grand either way of some near-new stuff (all 2018 or later and from the PH classifieds):-

a 500 mile RS4 Avant
a 5,600 mile 2018 M5
a 100 mile AMG E63
a 200 mile F-Pace SVR
a 65 mile Arial Nomad
a 2000 mile Maserati Gransport
a 1350 mile Nissan GT-R
a 3000 mile BMW M850i X drive
a 5(!!) mile Exige 410 Sport
a 10(!) mile Exige 350 Sport
a 2000 mile Cayman GTS
a delivery-mileage M4 CS
a new Chevy Corvette Stingray

I can almost see how a heavily tweaked hot hatch could have a price starting with a 5, but by the time the price is into the 70's it's mixing with vastly superior machinery

i'm starting to think they won't even sell 30 of these

i'd love to see what honda could do for £70-80k, probably absolutely smash the record

[clarki]

The 1 thing I loved about my r26r and what made it feel different/special to me was looking in the rearview mirror and seeing a rollcage!! I mean a rollcage!! What other cars come from the manufacturer with a cage fitted. All the other bolt-on stuff can be fitted to more or less any car.

Maybe i'm just easily pleased??

[Dave Hedgehog]

pilotdan said:

Is this the most expensive production Renault ever made??!!

A610 in 93 was £37k adjusted to inflation to 2018 = £74k

motor sport april 93, BoE inflation calculator

[sideshowfred]

Nigel_O said:

Am I getting old, or is the use of "rims" instead of "wheels", REALLY irritating?

Regardless, lets have a comparison...

A brand new Renault 5-door hatch with some very attractive bolt-on bits, within a couple of grand either way of some near-new stuff (all 2018 or later and from the PH classifieds):-

a 500 mile RS4 Avant
a 5,600 mile 2018 M5
a 100 mile AMG E63
a 200 mile F-Pace SVR
a 65 mile Arial Nomad
a 2000 mile Maserati Gransport
a 1350 mile Nissan GT-R
a 3000 mile BMW M850i X drive
a 5(!!) mile Exige 410 Sport
a 10(!) mile Exige 350 Sport
a 2000 mile Cayman GTS
a delivery-mileage M4 CS
a new Chevy Corvette Stingray

I can almost see how a heavily tweaked hot hatch could have a price starting with a 5, but by the time the price is into the 70's it's mixing with vastly superior machinery

But they are not comparable cars. It's not just about lap time. It's about exclusivity. Yes it's horrendously expnsive but they will all sell and be worth more than most things on that list for probably quite some time.

[DanielSan]

sideshowfred said:

But they are not comparable cars. It's not just about lap time. It's about exclusivity. Yes it's horrendously expnsive but they will all sell and be worth more than most things on that list for probably quite some time.

Given Renault struggled to shift the R26.R and Trophy R, I bet they do. The fact they're only bringing 30 to the UK says all you need to know about the demand they don't expect with this one.

[Jon_S_Rally]

When I saw this appear earlier, I knew this thread would deliver. The rage about the price of this is almost as funny as the rage about Boris becoming PM.

[sideshowfred]

DanielSan said:

Given Renault struggled to shift the R26.R and Trophy R, I bet they do. The fact they're only bringing 30 to the UK says all you need to know about the demand they don't expect with this one.

They didn't struggle to shift the fir Trophy-R. They only brought 30 of those into the country anyway. The R26.R was unfortunate in it's timing and yes they struggled to shift them but look at values now.

[ecsrobin]

DanielSan said:

Given Renault struggled to shift the R26.R and Trophy R, I bet they do. The fact they're only bringing 30 to the UK says all you need to know about the demand they don't expect with this one.

Wasn’t there quite a few R26.R’s with delivery miles only a few years after launch still for sale if my memory serves me correctly very?

It makes the £50,000 top spec for an Abarth 695 Biposto seem like a bargain.

[MrHooky]

Uncle John said:

Mucho dinero.

Imagine kerbing those bad boys!!!

Exactly what I thought. Pains me to pay £50 each time I need a wheel doing, can’t imagine what it would cost to solve a tatty wheel. I’m guessing nobody would dare tackle that as would need to be ‘recarbonned’ (made up term) in some sort of autoclave…

[PPPMAT]

So to beat the Civic Type R they had to make a car that costs the price of 2 and a bit Civic Type R’s.

Makes the previous Honda record more impressive.

[Alex_225]

The car is fantastic and the price is similarly crazy!!

It's in a very odd market sector in that if you had that kind of money for something brand new, you wouldn't buy a Megane. This is from an avid RenaultSport fan and you just wouldn't.

I suspect what will happen is these cars will be picked up by people who have collections of cars and money is no object.

As already said, it makes the new A45S look like good value.

[RumbleOfThunder]

PPPMAT said:

So to beat the Civic Type R they had to make a car that costs the price of 2 and a bit Civic Type R’s.

Makes the previous Honda record more impressive.

Well this is the absolute lunacy of it, they absolutely did not need to do this to grab the record, however on the surface it now looks Renault had to double the price. A huge own goal.

[Leins]

Nigel_O said:

A brand new Renault 5-door hatch with some very attractive bolt-on bits, within a couple of grand either way of some near-new stuff (all 2018 or later and from the PH classifieds):-

a 500 mile RS4 Avant
a 5,600 mile 2018 M5
a 100 mile AMG E63
a 200 mile F-Pace SVR
a 65 mile Arial Nomad
a 2000 mile Maserati Gransport
a 1350 mile Nissan GT-R
a 3000 mile BMW M850i X drive
a 5(!!) mile Exige 410 Sport
a 10(!) mile Exige 350 Sport
a 2000 mile Cayman GTS
a delivery-mileage M4 CS
a new Chevy Corvette Stingray

I can almost see how a heavily tweaked hot hatch could have a price starting with a 5, but by the time the price is into the 70's it's mixing with vastly superior machinery

What if someone already has all the bases covered with a garage full of supercars / super saloons / SUVs / classics, but just wants the most extreme hot hatch to tool around with on occasion too? We're not exactly talking about an AM Cygnet here

[JLC25]

PPPMAT said:

So to beat the Civic Type R they had to make a car that costs the price of 2 and a bit Civic Type R’s.

Makes the previous Honda record more impressive.

Except you couldn't buy the Honda that done the Ring record. This is the exact same spec as the Ring record car AFAIK.

[cidered77]

AmosMoses said:

Hilarious, best of luck to them. They'll sell them all and people will try and flip them.

If you break the cost down it doesn't seem too bad, you gotta remember they are using crazy spec parts.

Megane Trophy £30k

Seats £4k a pair?

Exhaust £2k

Wheels + Tyres £12k

Brakes £10k

Dampers £3k

Carbon bits £3k

That comes to £65K for just the parts!

Plus the R&D costs - these i have zero doubt are being sold at a loss, as part of a marketing business case. Completely agree this price is not at all crazy in this context.

I genuinely do not get badge snobbery for anyone who claims to be a car fan. It's about the car, not the image- surely. This is a hell of a car. "only" 5 seconds quicker around Spa than a modified Honda maybe - but 5 seconds is a lot, and then Honda was not at all showroom.

and in any case, Renaultsport have a long and proven track record of being the kings in this field over the long term .A few blips here and there, but generally - they get it right. The only car i've ever owned more than 2 years wan an R26 Megane - what an absolutely wonderful machine that was, especially on track.

i did register interest in this with Renault... 52k though... 10k too much to even convince my own manmaths. Good luck to the 30 people who take the plunge - am already envious.

[cidered77]

Nigel_O said:

Am I getting old, or is the use of "rims" instead of "wheels", REALLY irritating?

Regardless, lets have a comparison...

A brand new Renault 5-door hatch with some very attractive bolt-on bits, within a couple of grand either way of some near-new stuff (all 2018 or later and from the PH classifieds):-

a 500 mile RS4 Avant
a 5,600 mile 2018 M5
a 100 mile AMG E63
a 200 mile F-Pace SVR
a 65 mile Arial Nomad
a 2000 mile Maserati Gransport
a 1350 mile Nissan GT-R
a 3000 mile BMW M850i X drive
a 5(!!) mile Exige 410 Sport
a 10(!) mile Exige 350 Sport
a 2000 mile Cayman GTS
a delivery-mileage M4 CS
a new Chevy Corvette Stingray

I can almost see how a heavily tweaked hot hatch could have a price starting with a 5, but by the time the price is into the 70's it's mixing with vastly superior machinery

ahh, the old "new car costs more than old car" Pistonheads scoop. Who'd have though it....

And even ignoring that point - over 3 years factoring in next to zero depreciation, the Megane would cost you significantly less - as in 10-20k less in some cases - than everything other than the Nomad.

[ghost83]

Makes the golf club sport S a surprising bargain at 30 odd grand stick some carbon wheels on it rs3 ceramics and probably beat it whilst still been cheaper than the Megane

[Helicopter123]

This is a very special car, and fully optioned looks decent value if you add up the sum of the parts.

I suspect that they will be snapped up by collectors.