RE: Next BMW M3 confirmed as all-wheel drive...
Discussion
Ares said:
May be those leasees should have rented if they didn't want the maintenance commitment.....or take out a separate maintain contract. But it only goes to prove the point....!
As for my neighbour, yes, maybe he's like you. So pig-stubborn that he will pay a huge premium just to say he's not 'renting'.
Actually...no-one is as pig-stubborn as you. And he's the first to say that he's saving £3-figures a month by leasing.
When you lease a car you agree to pay an INITIAL RENTAL payment followed by fixed monthly payments for the duration of the lease term you have chosen. ... Obviously, the higher your initial payment, the lower your monthly payments thereafter will be for the remainder of your contract.12 Jun 2018As for my neighbour, yes, maybe he's like you. So pig-stubborn that he will pay a huge premium just to say he's not 'renting'.
Actually...no-one is as pig-stubborn as you. And he's the first to say that he's saving £3-figures a month by leasing.
https://www.clearcarleasing.co.uk › ...
What's An Initial Payment And How Does It Work? - Clear Car Leasing
Initial = first ,meaning there is going to be more!
R.Sole said:
When you lease a car you agree to pay an INITIAL RENTAL payment followed by fixed monthly payments for the duration of the lease term you have chosen. ... Obviously, the higher your initial payment, the lower your monthly payments thereafter will be for the remainder of your contract.12 Jun 2018
https://www.clearcarleasing.co.uk › ...
What's An Initial Payment And How Does It Work? - Clear Car Leasing
Initial = first ,meaning there is going to be more!
Yes, and many times it's the same as all of the other payments, or it's a bit higher but then the rest of the monthlies are lower. It is very rare (if ever!?) to get a high initial payment followed by monthlies which are lower and then get another amount the same as the initial in a lease deal.https://www.clearcarleasing.co.uk › ...
What's An Initial Payment And How Does It Work? - Clear Car Leasing
Initial = first ,meaning there is going to be more!
Bladedancer said:
Wills2 said:
I did 90,000 miles in 33 months in a new F80 M3, it was serviced 5 times in that period as per the CBS, it never missed a beat it's still in the local area and still driving beautifully with zero issues 12 months later, some people really don't know what they are on about and think we're still in the 70's when it comes to car servicing.
You can of course avoid all these issues you describe and pony up for a new car.....
90k miles, 5 years = on average service each 18k miles. For you to do 90k in 33 months in would most likely have been m-way driving, so the most car friendly constant-speed driving.You can of course avoid all these issues you describe and pony up for a new car.....
But I digress. UK has a very weird attitude to car servicing. I mean people here argue that a car is reliable and well built because they've had it from new for less than a year and it's fine.
It's funny how you seem to be so eager to believe manufacturers when they say that servicing a car every 20k miles (or even more) is ok. The same manufacturers that lie about emissions and have been lying about MPG figures for years.
The car was driven on all roads in all weathers from 35c down to -15c in the beast from the east kept outside and driven daily across the UK and into Europe and it never missed a beat, and is still going strong (hard for you to understand I get)
Eager to believe? I just go on my real world experience, funny how spending billions on developing and making cars means that they actually do know what they are talking about, but of course "oil can Eddie" under the dark arches knows better.....
janesmith1950 said:
Interestingly, my F80CP insisted on (as in idrive said it was needed) a litre of oil before it's first proper service. Other than that, only mechanical issue was the DCT gearbox needing a replacement part.
I think mine used 2 litres over the 90k outside of oil changes, I test drove the X3M yesterday at Lloyd Colne that new S58 engine is a beast sounds incredible it's going to be a monster in the lighter M3. Wills2 said:
janesmith1950 said:
Interestingly, my F80CP insisted on (as in idrive said it was needed) a litre of oil before it's first proper service. Other than that, only mechanical issue was the DCT gearbox needing a replacement part.
I think mine used 2 litres over the 90k outside of oil changes, I test drove the X3M yesterday at Lloyd Colne that new S58 engine is a beast sounds incredible it's going to be a monster in the lighter M3. Wills2 said:
Bladedancer said:
Wills2 said:
I did 90,000 miles in 33 months in a new F80 M3, it was serviced 5 times in that period as per the CBS, it never missed a beat it's still in the local area and still driving beautifully with zero issues 12 months later, some people really don't know what they are on about and think we're still in the 70's when it comes to car servicing.
You can of course avoid all these issues you describe and pony up for a new car.....
90k miles, 5 years = on average service each 18k miles. For you to do 90k in 33 months in would most likely have been m-way driving, so the most car friendly constant-speed driving.You can of course avoid all these issues you describe and pony up for a new car.....
But I digress. UK has a very weird attitude to car servicing. I mean people here argue that a car is reliable and well built because they've had it from new for less than a year and it's fine.
It's funny how you seem to be so eager to believe manufacturers when they say that servicing a car every 20k miles (or even more) is ok. The same manufacturers that lie about emissions and have been lying about MPG figures for years.
The car was driven on all roads in all weathers from 35c down to -15c in the beast from the east kept outside and driven daily across the UK and into Europe and it never missed a beat, and is still going strong (hard for you to understand I get)
Eager to believe? I just go on my real world experience, funny how spending billions on developing and making cars means that they actually do know what they are talking about, but of course "oil can Eddie" under the dark arches knows better.....
FGS, I've driven 32,000 miles in 2yrs in a 500bhp Italian car in temperatures from -12 to +42. It's been comically reliable. It's had three sets of oil (and needed zero top-ups between) and one service in that time. I've seen the oil coming out, and it wasn't the black tar than used to emanate from cars 30yrs ago.
Burwood said:
The power to weight hp/tonne is going to be bang on that of the f90 M5. Around 325 per. The X3M is 250. A weapon for sure
And from experience 320/330hp/tonne in a car of that weight means that performance is linear....it doesn't relent. When packaged in a car that can be a 'dad-taxi'/family wagon as well, it easy to see why people opt for them over a 911 et al. Wills2 said:
I think mine used 2 litres over the 90k outside of oil changes, I test drove the X3M yesterday at Lloyd Colne that new S58 engine is a beast sounds incredible it's going to be a monster in the lighter M3.
'Sounds incredible' - that will be the piped in and enhanced sound through the speakers that several reviews allude to. Hopefully it's an improvement on the horrendous racket that comes out of an F80 M3/M4.Olivera said:
Wills2 said:
I think mine used 2 litres over the 90k outside of oil changes, I test drove the X3M yesterday at Lloyd Colne that new S58 engine is a beast sounds incredible it's going to be a monster in the lighter M3.
'Sounds incredible' - that will be the piped in and enhanced sound through the speakers that several reviews allude to. Hopefully it's an improvement on the horrendous racket that comes out of an F80 M3/M4.
Olivera said:
Wills2 said:
I think mine used 2 litres over the 90k outside of oil changes, I test drove the X3M yesterday at Lloyd Colne that new S58 engine is a beast sounds incredible it's going to be a monster in the lighter M3.
'Sounds incredible' - that will be the piped in and enhanced sound through the speakers that several reviews allude to. Hopefully it's an improvement on the horrendous racket that comes out of an F80 M3/M4.
Seriously, PH needs to get over itself with the notion of 'piped in' sound. In an era of nanny-state and social responsibility, I don't want to hear more engine noise than you do (or I do in the car), so for me, it's a perfect win.
Burwood said:
The power to weight hp/tonne is going to be bang on that of the f90 M5. Around 325 per. The X3M is 250. A weapon for sure
The Comp is close to 660hp so nearly 360 per ton + surely will be much higher torque too. Won't big hp "kill" a lower hp car anyway after you get above a certain mph?TX.
Terminator X said:
Burwood said:
The power to weight hp/tonne is going to be bang on that of the f90 M5. Around 325 per. The X3M is 250. A weapon for sure
The Comp is close to 660hp so nearly 360 per ton + surely will be much higher torque too. Won't big hp "kill" a lower hp car anyway after you get above a certain mph?TX.
Humour said:
DanielSan said:
The BMW HITLER. Za Germans are certainly aiming for a resurgence of style.....if you can call it that.
I hope it isn’t true either, where would the radar thing go if it will like that, BMW wouldn’t be stupid enough to make the grill like that and cut a hole in the right kidney grill and have the radar exposed would they? Surely not
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