RE: Euro Mitsubishi Shogun sales end after 37 years
Discussion
Mitsubishi are a strange little brand really. The shogun/pajero is a badass proper capable off roader and should have been capitalised on in the SUV era, so too the delica 4x4 people carrier/small van which has no direct rivals and could make some serious niche $ if they cared to market it. Look at all the tradesmen with their brokeback mountain edition crewcab trucks. And well off family's wanting 7 seat SUVs. Market begging. Like I say peculiar firm.
Sixpackpert said:
sgtBerbatov said:
Also worth noting that the Mercedes X-Class and the FIAT pick up are both based on the L200.
The Merc is based on the Nissan...I don't actually see that many X Class pickups around, mind you
I bought a 13 plate LWB one last month for my wife to cart the kids around in.
It's great, we have been camping twice with it, loads of space, nice to drive and with a Bluespark tuning box, it has plenty of poke and returns nearly 30mpg on average which I'm happy with. It's an SG4 so decent spec with screens in the back for the kids and the Rockford sound system.
I've had a couple of older ones in the past and I really like the purposeful, simplicity of them.
This was the main attraction for me, no active suspension and mutilple other things to cause bother.
I find myself getting more and more rebellious against technology for the sake of it nowadays.
I plan to keep it a couple of years then see if I can pic up a late SG5 one.
It's great, we have been camping twice with it, loads of space, nice to drive and with a Bluespark tuning box, it has plenty of poke and returns nearly 30mpg on average which I'm happy with. It's an SG4 so decent spec with screens in the back for the kids and the Rockford sound system.
I've had a couple of older ones in the past and I really like the purposeful, simplicity of them.
This was the main attraction for me, no active suspension and mutilple other things to cause bother.
I find myself getting more and more rebellious against technology for the sake of it nowadays.
I plan to keep it a couple of years then see if I can pic up a late SG5 one.
The Li-ion King said:
Sixpackpert said:
sgtBerbatov said:
Also worth noting that the Mercedes X-Class and the FIAT pick up are both based on the L200.
The Merc is based on the Nissan...I don't actually see that many X Class pickups around, mind you
The Li-ion King said:
Sixpackpert said:
sgtBerbatov said:
Also worth noting that the Mercedes X-Class and the FIAT pick up are both based on the L200.
The Merc is based on the Nissan...I agree that it's a shame they're stopping production.Mitsubishi may have missed a chance here. Lovely cars, with understated and elegant styling (for a Japanese car).
I wanted a reliable, large 4wd with off-road capabilities, and good towing ability. I also wanted something that had proper windows and not those pimp-style roof-chopped cars with low profile tyres. That left me with the full fat Range Rover, Mercedes G-Wagon, Jeep Commander, and the Mitsubishi LWB Shogun.
Mercedes was too expensive, I was worried about the reliability of the Range Rover (although I really like it's styling), so that left the Jeep and the Shogun.
I didn't see many Jeeps, so I bought a 2008 shogun LWB 3.2 diesel about 3 years ago, and have been very satisfied.
Not the most interesting interior, but it does have soft-touch plastics, despite what somebody previously said (I'm a bit suspicious of people who stroke their plastics. Shouldn't they be on some sort of register?).
I drove 30,000 miles in it in the first year without any problems and I've driven 45k in it so far, still without problems.
Yes, the diesel is agricutlural (the worst thing about the car), and it's pretty slow in accelerating (I don't mind), but a petrol one was impossible to find and would have been crippling in fuel bills. It does regularly get up to 120mph on the clock, but it takes a while.
The ride and handling are fine, seats are good, and the stereo is very good. An excellent car.
I had to tow a friend's boat for a hundred miles, two weeks ago, and it coped fine, if a little stressed on steep hills.
Off-road it's pretty good too, but way too long for real fun.
I wanted a reliable, large 4wd with off-road capabilities, and good towing ability. I also wanted something that had proper windows and not those pimp-style roof-chopped cars with low profile tyres. That left me with the full fat Range Rover, Mercedes G-Wagon, Jeep Commander, and the Mitsubishi LWB Shogun.
Mercedes was too expensive, I was worried about the reliability of the Range Rover (although I really like it's styling), so that left the Jeep and the Shogun.
I didn't see many Jeeps, so I bought a 2008 shogun LWB 3.2 diesel about 3 years ago, and have been very satisfied.
Not the most interesting interior, but it does have soft-touch plastics, despite what somebody previously said (I'm a bit suspicious of people who stroke their plastics. Shouldn't they be on some sort of register?).
I drove 30,000 miles in it in the first year without any problems and I've driven 45k in it so far, still without problems.
Yes, the diesel is agricutlural (the worst thing about the car), and it's pretty slow in accelerating (I don't mind), but a petrol one was impossible to find and would have been crippling in fuel bills. It does regularly get up to 120mph on the clock, but it takes a while.
The ride and handling are fine, seats are good, and the stereo is very good. An excellent car.
I had to tow a friend's boat for a hundred miles, two weeks ago, and it coped fine, if a little stressed on steep hills.
Off-road it's pretty good too, but way too long for real fun.
I’ve always had a soft spot for the mk 2 version of these.
Its a shame they have a gypo image because to me they look smart but purposeful on the outside, and they were laden with toys like Digital climate control with separate rear zone, electric most things, switchable damper settings, cruise control, ‘leather’ seats etc as well as the altimeter, pitch and rolls gauges etc. Think of what Land Rover discovery gave you in 1992 by way in comparison; HVAC system on those gopping slider controls that are straight from the 70s and no cruise, no climate, manual sunroof etc
Also the torsion bar front suspension is cool
Make mine a mid 90s LWB exceed with the 3.5 v6 in dark blue
Its a shame they have a gypo image because to me they look smart but purposeful on the outside, and they were laden with toys like Digital climate control with separate rear zone, electric most things, switchable damper settings, cruise control, ‘leather’ seats etc as well as the altimeter, pitch and rolls gauges etc. Think of what Land Rover discovery gave you in 1992 by way in comparison; HVAC system on those gopping slider controls that are straight from the 70s and no cruise, no climate, manual sunroof etc
Also the torsion bar front suspension is cool
Make mine a mid 90s LWB exceed with the 3.5 v6 in dark blue
irish boy said:
Workhorse 4x4’s are rapidly disappearing if you don’t want a pick up.
Pick ups make alot more sense if you are a builder/farmer. You can turf alot more into the back and the carrying capacity of these pick ups is fantastic. Plus back seats for the kids etc. My old man has an L200 with leather and all the trimmings as an import from the UK. Fantastic machine. Great for pulling the cattle trailer or even a baler. rastapasta said:
irish boy said:
Workhorse 4x4’s are rapidly disappearing if you don’t want a pick up.
Pick ups make alot more sense if you are a builder/farmer. You can turf alot more into the back and the carrying capacity of these pick ups is fantastic. Plus back seats for the kids etc. My old man has an L200 with leather and all the trimmings as an import from the UK. Fantastic machine. Great for pulling the cattle trailer or even a baler. As previously said its been on sale since 2006 in current guise, a new model L200 is cheaper to buy, offers more features for the farmer/builder that they'll actually use.
2016 SWB shogun 2nd hand is approx. £20-24k depending on mileage
2016 L200 - £14-19K depending on spec/ mileage
With L200 you get a lot more vehicle for the money, it's a no brainer when it comes to deciding which to buy.
My old man had one for about 6 months around 10 years ago. Don't really recall seeing one that looked newer than that, so assumed they had already stopped making them!
I remember the really wobbly, boat like handling, and terrifyingly bad brakes. Lots of toys but cheap feel inside, yet I don't think they were that cheap to buy.
I remember the really wobbly, boat like handling, and terrifyingly bad brakes. Lots of toys but cheap feel inside, yet I don't think they were that cheap to buy.
dunnoreally said:
Shogun Sport's a very similar proposition with a very similar name though, isn't it? Yes I know it's body on frame whereas the old Shogun wasn't, but when has that ever been a cause for complaint in proper, rugged 4x4s?
Shogun Sport is based on the L200 platform so leaf springs on the back. Ritchie335is said:
bakerstreet said:
Shogun Sport is based on the L200 platform so leaf springs on the back.
I'm pretty sure the L200 doesn't have leafs now?ETA: My cousin works for Walkinshaw Performance who do the conversion to coil springs.
Edited by Sixpackpert on Wednesday 7th August 13:58
Sixpackpert said:
Ritchie335is said:
bakerstreet said:
Shogun Sport is based on the L200 platform so leaf springs on the back.
I'm pretty sure the L200 doesn't have leafs now?ETA: My cousin works for Walkinshaw Performance who do the conversion to coil springs.
Edited by Sixpackpert on Wednesday 7th August 13:58
Ritchie335is said:
Sixpackpert said:
Ritchie335is said:
bakerstreet said:
Shogun Sport is based on the L200 platform so leaf springs on the back.
I'm pretty sure the L200 doesn't have leafs now?ETA: My cousin works for Walkinshaw Performance who do the conversion to coil springs.
Edited by Sixpackpert on Wednesday 7th August 13:58
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/mitsubishi/sho...
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff