Yep, a Mustang Crossover

Yep, a Mustang Crossover

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unsprung

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125 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Tonight at 2:00 AM in the UK...

...is the official live streaming of the new car.

This is not a friendly time for Blighty, but it's ideal for viewing in both the US and China. PHers in Australia will also be well positioned for live viewing on their Monday.

more about tonight's live stream, here:
https://www.ford.com/powertrains/battery-electric-...

At the preceding link, you'll see that Ford have reached out to social media personalities: "...exclusive vehicle glimpses and a collaboration with 10 distinctive tastemakers."

Said "tastemakers" may or may not interest you, but this "collaboration" shows that Ford is very keen to ensure that this new and somewhat unusual vehicle is meaningful to diverse audiences. Ford obviously wants this car to be a success.

If you choose to view the live event tonight, the stream is apparently not limited to the link above. Ford has said that Facebook and YouTube will be included.

below: screen shot of "still" photography that appears on the Ford live stream page at the moment



Edited by unsprung on Sunday 17th November 20:36

unsprung

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Monday 18th November 2019
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Loads of Photos and Figures

Ford UK
https://www.ford.co.uk/cars/mustang-mach-e

Ford US
https://www.ford.com/suvs/mach-e/2021/

Some of the country differences noted earlier in this thread persist. The UK vehicle is rated at 370 miles of range (WLTP figure) while the US version is listed as 300 miles (EPA figure).


Wide boy on the corner


"Let's just check the oil... OMG what have they done!?!?"





Dave Hedgehog

14,584 posts

205 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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TG have a utoob vid

It looks nice, it’s very slow thou given its cost

unsprung

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Monday 18th November 2019
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VIDEO

Top Gear
https://youtu.be/QA-qgSB076c

Ford -- The reveal event itself
https://youtu.be/o0F9Uktpgtk

Fortune
https://youtu.be/KRytI-WNTHs


...with hat tip to Dave Hedgehog (creative username, by the way, lol!)


RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Honestly looks OK decent spec and price, not convinced it needs the mustang name

RemyMartin81D

6,759 posts

206 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Vile.

F2 DDY

476 posts

64 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Unsurprisingly...utter shonk.

Merc 450

973 posts

100 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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unsprung said:
It's kinda like somebody said, "Draw us a Porsche Macan, but from a Mustang point of view."
A Mustang should have a 5.0 litre V8 but if i had to have an electric car and i could keep my race red GT i'd have one the same colour. Just to take the Rotty out in

Cupramax

10,484 posts

253 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Dave Hedgehog said:
TG have a utoob vid

It looks nice, it’s very slow thou given its cost
That TG vid is more like a paid promotion, terrible.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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GT version is 3.something to 60, not too bad

It has 75 or 99 kwh battery pack though so is about 36% less efficient than the model Y and thats before applying the last update.

Captain Smerc

3,028 posts

117 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Dave Hedgehog said:
TG have a utoob vid

It looks nice, it’s very slow thou given its cost
Mid 3's to 60mph the guy said.

MrGTI6

3,166 posts

131 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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unsprung said:
I know it's a cliche, but you could tell me that car was made my almost any manufacturer and I would believe you. Ironically, one of the few things it doesn't look like is a Mustang...

unsprung

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Tuesday 19th November 2019
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MrGTI6 said:
I know it's a cliche, but you could tell me that car was made my almost any manufacturer and I would believe you. Ironically, one of the few things it doesn't look like is a Mustang...
Wot? That wide boy on the corner? wink

Many descriptions of the Mach-E -- including those published by Ford themselves -- say that it's "Mustang-inspired". Ford also refer to this vehicle as an extension of "the Mustang family".

The nose and tail are indeed unmistakably derived from Mustang. Some would point to lines in the wings and along the roof as well.

That's all. Nothing more.

Nobody is dialing 999 and shouting, "This full-sized crossover can't be mistaken for a low-slung 2+2 coupe!"

You're correct to note that, hey, this thing is not the usual product launch. But, then, a pioneering BEV in the hottest segment of motoring today (the SUV segment) can be nothing if not business-as-unusual.

Which leads to one more very important attribute:

Mustang is not just a name and a couple of design elements. It's also a certain spirited approach to motoring -- and one that is steeped in more than half a century of the American experience. It is this attribute, above all, that Ford hopes to cultivate in its new battery-electric crossover.



MrGTI6

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Tuesday 19th November 2019
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unsprung said:
Mustang is not just a name and a couple of design elements. It's also a certain spirited approach to motoring -- and one that is steeped in more than half a century of the American experience.
I'm assuming you work for Ford's marketing department. If not, then it's their loss.

unsprung

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Tuesday 19th November 2019
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MrGTI6 said:
I'm assuming you work for Ford's marketing department. If not, then it's their loss.
I'll say thanks biggrin --- but it's not clear that you're not taking the p***.

For what it's worth: I don't work for an automotive manufacturer or supplier.



GravelBen

15,722 posts

231 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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MrGTI6 said:
I'm assuming you work for Ford's marketing department.
hehe

+1 to that!


But it takes more than marketing-babble and a badge pinched from a more interesting car to stop that appliance from being a generic uninspired blob. I guess a pregnant mare could be called an extension of a mustang's family though.

Edited by GravelBen on Wednesday 20th November 00:03

croyde

23,020 posts

231 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Seeing some more video and pictures of the car, it looks alright but why call it a Mustang.

The purists are angry enough about the latest coupe being available in RHD, please think of their blood pressure.

Joking aside I think that the name Mustang should only be seen on a long bonnet, short boot coupe with 2 rear seats that won't fit an adult and preferably a 5.0 V8 engine. Lesser output engines are available.

Not taking the pee as I did own one once.

bridgdav

4,805 posts

249 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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A couple from LA auto show today...


unsprung

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Thursday 21st November 2019
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bridgdav said:




A couple from LA auto show today...
Wow! You've already seen it in person then.

How did the shapes and various lines of this car strike you?

Could this be the Cayenne "for the rest of us?"

Any look at the interior? Scratchy plastics?



bridgdav

4,805 posts

249 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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unsprung said:
Wow! You've already seen it in person then.

How did the shapes and various lines of this car strike you?

Could this be the Cayenne "for the rest of us?"

Any look at the interior? Scratchy plastics?
TBH looks and feels like a Fat Stang. Lines and Cues from S550.
A busy day today as it’s industry day, so lots of networking and presentations... Marketing people..
It’s more of a Macan size.. 20” rims on the GT and 19” on the premium.

I wouldn’t say it’s a striking car, but for those who either love the Ford brand or want a semi affordable BEV Mustang.

I see this not as a dumbing down of the mustang brand, but a lift of general Crossover EV lifted by the Mustang name.
GM tried with the Volt and Bolt, but have never made big sales. In Euroland, it may be an easier transition or acceptance to HEV / BEV, but to take a middle American owner from ICE to Full BEV without some level of Brand to support will be a mountain to climb


A lighter traffic day tomorrow at the show apparently, so may get the opportunity to get in and around a bit more.

Edited by bridgdav on Thursday 21st November 01:50