RE: Alpine A110 gets 305hp with RaceChip
Discussion
T-195 said:
Sporky said:
blade7 said:
The A110 wouldn't even see off a lightly fettled 30 year old 944 turbo, which is hardly a supercar.
And thus irrelevant to the point made. 
2 seconds quicker to 60 than a standard 944 Turbo, which was hardly a budget sports car when new.
blade7 said:
How much more power has the Alpine got over an 89 944 turbo?
You must know that ?Standard PE has 252 to 256 hp
944 turbo s has in the region of 247 hp
Not sure that is relevant to the argument you are making...
944 weight is in the ballpark of 1481kg I believe
And it trails an Alpine at any point to 100mph and beyond. Alpine hits 100 in about 10.3 and 944 turbo s is somewhere nearer 14.
So how exactly are you going to offset the weight disadvantage with a light fettling?
Yeah, but sitting in the back of a 944 is less comfortable than sitting in the back of an A110.
That's based on my actual experience of sitting in the back of a 944, which was cripplingly uncomfortable (and I was younger and bendier at the time). Versus sitting behind an A110.
If we're allowing "light fettling" though, the Litchfield upgrade would put things back on parity. At least. At that point it's probably more about whether you go on amber or on green and how serious you are about getting to the next lights first.
That's based on my actual experience of sitting in the back of a 944, which was cripplingly uncomfortable (and I was younger and bendier at the time). Versus sitting behind an A110.
If we're allowing "light fettling" though, the Litchfield upgrade would put things back on parity. At least. At that point it's probably more about whether you go on amber or on green and how serious you are about getting to the next lights first.
blade7 said:
The A110 wouldn't even see off a lightly fettled 30 year old 944 turbo, which is hardly a supercar. And I suspect claims about it having as much performance as you can sensibly use, are from quite conservative drivers. As for superbikes, I've owned a Z1 and plenty more up to a 195 bhp BMW, and the chassis/electronics coped just fine.
So you accept this might be an incorrect statement...Miserablegit said:
I was trying to be polite.
Yet again, on an Alpine thread, you are talking out of your arse and I’ve called you out on it.
Why are some of you so chippy about a new sportscar - I really don’t understand it.
Behave yourself. Everything I've posted has been factual, whereas you've spouted a lot of uninformed rubbish on this thread. I've come to the conclusion you know a whole lot about very little.Yet again, on an Alpine thread, you are talking out of your arse and I’ve called you out on it.
Why are some of you so chippy about a new sportscar - I really don’t understand it.
You are such a clown
You started by saying that an Alpine couldn’t see off a lightly fettled 944.
I gave you some facts and figures and you conceded that the Alpine was quicker to 100 and above but “[you were] sure the 944 would reel the Alpine in before 155mph” . That’s not a fact.
Fact is the max comparable figures I have for an Alpine and 944 turbo s are for 0-200 kph with the Alpine at 17 seconds and 944 at 25...
You still haven’t indicated the light fettling that would be involved - I did suggest a Saturn V.
Or is this the weight saving you’re thinking of:
You started by saying that an Alpine couldn’t see off a lightly fettled 944.
I gave you some facts and figures and you conceded that the Alpine was quicker to 100 and above but “[you were] sure the 944 would reel the Alpine in before 155mph” . That’s not a fact.
Fact is the max comparable figures I have for an Alpine and 944 turbo s are for 0-200 kph with the Alpine at 17 seconds and 944 at 25...
You still haven’t indicated the light fettling that would be involved - I did suggest a Saturn V.
Or is this the weight saving you’re thinking of:
DDg said:
Loving seeing how every few pages a new Shining-Knight-Defender-of-all-things-Porsche chips in. Comedy Gold!
I don't get why the A110's existence irks some people so much.There are loads of cars I don't like; it'd be a lot of effort to go 'round all the relevant forums telling everyone about each of them.
Sporky said:
I don't get why the A110's existence irks some people so much.
There are loads of cars I don't like; it'd be a lot of effort to go 'round all the relevant forums telling everyone about each of them.
Some people curse themselves for backing the wrong horse. Others curse those who back the right one.There are loads of cars I don't like; it'd be a lot of effort to go 'round all the relevant forums telling everyone about each of them.
king McLaren forum.Sporky said:
I don't get why the A110's existence irks some people so much.
Because they are badge snobs? They just can't get over that Renault (!!) have produced a car that (in most independent reviewers eyes) is as good as their beloved Porsche - and some even (can you believe it) argue it's better!!!
If Lotus had done it - maybe OK -cry in your beer time. Renault - they are in denial.
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