RE: Audi TT quattro Sport | PH Used Review

[Macboy]

monzaxjr said:

Really like the 3.2 in these. Have contemplated buying one many times but the horror stories I've read regarding the timing chain have always put me off. Had a look online at various sites for a low mileage minter with evidence of the chain being done but most appear to be pretty rough or have patchy histories.

Guess I was lucky - 22000 miles in 3 years with no engine or gearbox issues and the only non-service costs were wear items.

[whizz_14]

A great looking car, with fantastic seats but not up to a trackday.
I put the brake pistons through the pads (a feat never seen before by the garage that changed discs calipers and pads afterwards)and had a handbrake only drive home!
I thought it was nicely balanced, great engine/gearbox, about the right power, let down by inadequate brakes

[SiPod]

xjay1337 said:

Who the fk would pay 10k for a TT Mk1 HAHAHAHA

You can buy a normal TT 225 for 1500 quid
R-tech remap for £250 and pair of used Pole Positions for £1200 and you have the same car 1/3rd the advertised price.

15 years ago you could buy a 1.3 mk golf for £200 and a GTi for £800. Try and buy an immaculate low mileage one of them now less than 10 times those prices.
Think your HAHAHAHAHA remark may be one that you'll look back on in 10 years time and think "hmm maybe I wasn't such a clever gob shyte"

Regardless of power, handling etc etc these cars are the run out of a first generation iconic car. Prices will go only one way especially for the QS240

[SidewaysSi]

God these are st. At shed money that's fine but not at £8k.

[anonymous-user]

dollyboy said:

was8v said:

article said:

It's the permanent kind, too, unlike later generations that switched to Haldex hardware.

Um nope, it's definitely a haldex system, not sure if the QS had different firmware to the standard car.

Yep definitely haldex, same as other cars on this platform. Rather basic mistake, did the author actually drive one before writing the article?

Indeed, Haldex through and through. The Author seems to have his wires crossed.

[Ilovejapcrap]

1781cc said:

I have quite a few but not online, I thankfully when google free about 5 months ago so had to sacrifice my youtube channel, when I figure out where I will dump my videos I'll let you know.

I have a build thread here: https://www.ttforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25...

Its a huge read though... and its not up to date either lol

bloody good read that

[g60golfpunk]

xjay1337 said:

Who the fk would pay 10k for a TT Mk1 HAHAHAHA

You can buy a normal TT 225 for 1500 quid
R-tech remap for £250 and pair of used Pole Positions for £1200 and you have the same car 1/3rd the advertised price.

Hmm.. not true though is it

[g60golfpunk]

whizz_14 said:

A great looking car, with fantastic seats but not up to a trackday.
I put the brake pistons through the pads (a feat never seen before by the garage that changed discs calipers and pads afterwards)and had a handbrake only drive home!
I thought it was nicely balanced, great engine/gearbox, about the right power, let down by inadequate brakes

Decent set of discs, pads and brake fluid soon sorts that, took mine around the ring with no problems at all, and that's not a bad track to prove it on

Edited by g60golfpunk on Tuesday 20th August 11:38

[Emeye]

I love the Mk1 TT - I've owned 2, a pre-facelift 225 and a facelift 225. For the money, nothing comes close for original concept car looks with character and all weather distance covering in the UK. They are even reasonably practical witht he rear seats down.

I may buy another one - I never tried the V6 DSG or Sport, but a standard Mk1 was a great daily driver for me before I had too many kids to fit inside one!

Oh, and they are definitely all Haldex.

[Emeye]

I love the Mk1 TT - I've owned 2, a pre-facelift 225 and a facelift 225. For the money, nothing comes close for original concept car looks with character and all weather distance covering in the UK. They are even reasonably practical with the rear seats down.

I may buy another one - I never tried the V6 DSG or Sport, but a standard Mk1 was a great daily driver for me before I had too many kids to fit inside one!

Oh, and they are definitely all Haldex. (aprt from the 2WD version obviously...)

Edited by Emeye on Tuesday 20th August 11:01

Edited by Emeye on Tuesday 20th August 11:43

[shantybeater]

moonigan said:

I had one of these in 2010 and it lasted just over 4 weeks. I paid £15K at the time. They are crap. The only good thing about them is the Recaro Pole Positions.

The 4WD system robs the car of power so it actually only produces around 220 BHP so its slow and any attempt to extract more power from it will cost money as you have to start looking at new turbos. Forums will claim to extract 280 BHP with little cost but that's not at the wheels and the remap usually comes with a countdown timer because a large bang is sure to follow. Understeer is everywhere and again to sort this costs a significant amount of money. Then there are the brakes which will also need sorting at huge cost.

I looked at getting all the things sorted to turn it into a decent car and the bill would have been £5K+ so I sold it and bought a Z4MC for £20K

Edited by moonigan on Monday 19th August 08:16

Clearly you have owned the car so you have relevant experience, but the assumption the engine would ‘go ban’ is way off the mark. I really don’t understand why people post utter tripe with absolutely no knowledge on the subject at all. The BAM 1.8T is an incredibly reliable block, I ran two, my second (which still exists to this day) was running 330bhp on stock internals, it had a scooby IHI bolted on. I ragged that car daily up until I sold it at 88k and it was still lapping it up. 10 years on my friend still owns the car and is now running 350bhp.

Suggesting the 20vt engine is anything other than a very reliable block is UTTER nonsense. Derivatives of the same engine lived in the S3’s, golf gti’s and Ibiza/Leon cupras of that era, a very common engine but yet no real common faults ever surfaced. There is a reason these engines are transplanted into kit cars, mk1/2 golfs etc

Edited by shantybeater on Tuesday 20th August 11:45

[J4CKO]

shantybeater said:

moonigan said:

I had one of these in 2010 and it lasted just over 4 weeks. I paid £15K at the time. They are crap. The only good thing about them is the Recaro Pole Positions.

The 4WD system robs the car of power so it actually only produces around 220 BHP so its slow and any attempt to extract more power from it will cost money as you have to start looking at new turbos. Forums will claim to extract 280 BHP with little cost but that's not at the wheels and the remap usually comes with a countdown timer because a large bang is sure to follow. Understeer is everywhere and again to sort this costs a significant amount of money. Then there are the brakes which will also need sorting at huge cost.

I looked at getting all the things sorted to turn it into a decent car and the bill would have been £5K+ so I sold it and bought a Z4MC for £20K

Edited by moonigan on Monday 19th August 08:16

Clearly you have owned the car so you have relevant experience, but the assumption the engine would ‘go ban’ is way off the mark. I really don’t understand why people post utter tripe with absolutely no knowledge on the subject at all. The BAM 1.8T is an incredibly reliable block, I ran two, my second (which still exists to this day) was running 330bhp on stock internals, it had a scooby IHI bolted on. I ragged that car daily up until I sold it at 88k and it was still lapping it up. 10 years on my friend still owns the car and is now running 350bhp.

Suggesting the 20vt engine is anything other than a very reliable block is UTTER nonsense. Derivatives of the same engine lived in the S3’s, golf gti’s and Ibiza/Leon cupras of that era, a very common engine but yet no real common faults ever surfaced. There is a reason these engines are transplanted into kit cars, mk1/2 golfs etc

Edited by shantybeater on Tuesday 20th August 11:45

Its all the stuff around it that struggles, particularly if neglected, the boost and emissions side can get tricky as they age, VAG produced a strong, capable engine, then saddled it with an over complex set of systems and some fairly cheap parts, like the ropey plastic dump valve, iffy coil packs, N75 and the like.

A lot of owners/tuners simplify and uprate this side and they are then pretty bombproof.

[g60golfpunk]

shantybeater said:

Clearly you have owned the car so you have relevant experience, but the assumption the engine would ‘go ban’ is way off the mark. I really don’t understand why people post utter tripe with absolutely no knowledge on the subject at all. The BAM 1.8T is an incredibly reliable block, I ran two, my second (which still exists to this day) was running 330bhp on stock internals, it had a scooby IHI bolted on. I ragged that car daily up until I sold it at 88k and it was still lapping it up. 10 years on my friend still owns the car and is now running 350bhp.

Suggesting the 20vt engine is anything other than a very reliable block is UTTER nonsense. Derivatives of the same engine lived in the S3’s, golf gti’s and Ibiza/Leon cupras of that era, a very common engine but yet no real common faults ever surfaced. There is a reason these engines are transplanted into kit cars, mk1/2 golfs etc

Edited by shantybeater on Tuesday 20th August 11:45

Well said.
Although it's a BFV in the sport, but same applies

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

Nice motor but would need a ton of prep before tracking one!! Waay too soft

[Weener1]

Good article...
Best of the Mk1’s, have owned various models and this one stands out. Never had issues.
Immaculate 06 plated example with 28k tucked away for a non rainy day, sleeping soundly in the garage😎

[anonymous-user]

A friend has one of these, spent an arm and a leg on coilovers, brembos, remap, haldex controller, exhaust, intercooler etc etc. With all that stuff it was just about as quick as my remapped Megane R26 but it seemed to have an incessant ABS/ESP fault that really ruined the enjoyment until it was crashed.

Good cars when they work but my word is the steering bad.

[Drekly]

g60golfpunk said:

Decent set of discs, pads and brake fluid soon sorts that, took mine around the ring with no problems at all, and that's not a bad track to prove it on

Edited by g60golfpunk on Tuesday 20th August 11:38

Great picture btw. I would love to try a Sport, especially with a remap and brakes upgraded, just to see how it compares to the 225 in reality (my other half's roadster is hardly a B road weapon, the standard brakes can barely deal with stock power so I'd imagine they would struggle if remapped).
I remember looking at one in a showroom when they first come out and it looked so much better than a normal TT, especially in that misano red with the black roof.
The prices almost make sense, certainly at £8k. Look at R26.R and Mini GP prices for comparison, a similar approach and cost much less new based on cheaper hatchbacks with worse build quality.
I don't even see the Boxster as being a direct rival choice for this car, but the 987 Cayman certainly is once you get into the £10-12k+ price bracket.

[benzinbob]

Suspension and brakes may need an upgrade by my 1.8T with a stage one remap has done 50000 miles with no issues..what an engine!

[1781cc]

Elatino1 said:

it seemed to have an incessant ABS/ESP fault that really ruined the enjoyment

Yup, first thing anyone should do is get a copy of VCDS and code the ESP out, its what I did, even if you press the button its 30% on, this is paranoia from Audi after the cars that rolled with the MK1 arms. As for the haled controller, you can get a power track insert for £50 that locks the haldex 50/50

[redhanded]

Seems a bit more hate for these than not. I have one at the moment. It's a run out edition of an Iconic old car with beautiful styling. A game changing design no? Good engine. Nice seats. Quick point to point with 0-60 coming in 5.7 secs. During the winter I was being held up buy a Boxter trying to get up a hill in 2 or 3 inches of snow. You realise in that moment what these cars are for. They will continue to look good, they are built well and there are not many about. Whats not to like?