RE: 964 Turbo S Leichtbau | Showpiece of the Week

RE: 964 Turbo S Leichtbau | Showpiece of the Week

Monday 19th August 2019

964 Turbo S Leichtbau | Showpiece of the Week

Porsche doesn't worry too much about subtracting mass from the 911 Turbo these days. But that wasn't always the case...



When attempting to place a value on historic Porsches there are several good rules of thumb to follow. What year was it made? How many were built? How many miles has it done? And how much does it weigh? In general, the lower the magic numbers, the higher the one changing hands will be. Here we have a 1993 car (so not all that old), of which just 86 examples were built (better). It's done an infinitesimal 61 miles in its lifetime (much more like it) and it weighs 186kg less than standard. Jackpot.

The story of this particular Showpiece dates back to May 1992, when Porsche announced a limited edition run of 964 Turbos, dubbed the 'Turbo S Leichtbau' or Light build. To live up to its name, luxuries like the power steering, air conditioning and sound-proofing were ditched, while the car's underbody protection and rear seats were also removed. Further weight savings came in the form of thinner glass and carpets, a carbon fibre luggage compartment and aluminium doors clad in fibreglass-reinforced carbon panels, a material also utilised for the bonnet and bespoke rear wing.


The resulting 186kg reduction was complemented by a 61hp increase in power (for a total of 386hp), liberated from the 3.3-litre turbocharged flat-six thanks to the use of different camshafts, precision-machined intake ducts, a higher charge pressure and an optimised fuel injection system. The suspension was firmed-up and lowered by 40mm to aid stability and uprated brakes were installed to improve stopping power.

Aesthetically, the Leichtbau can be identified not only by its hunkered stance and more shapely spoiler, but by its 959-inspired intakes - there to improve airflow to the oil cooler and front brakes - and its three-piece alloy wheels. Those rims boast purple centres in this case, and hide gold-painted brake calipers behind, a touch of flair which contrasts rather nicely with the car's Grand Prix White paint, but which could appear a little much alongside its Flamenco Red leather interior.


Although only 50 units were initially planned, and a total of 80 is often reported, Porsche in fact ended up producing 86 Leichtbaus in total. Of that number, just 11 were UK cars, which makes this week's Showpiece, a right-hand drive example, an incredibly rare machine. And that's before its 61 delivery miles are taken into account, or its immaculate condition, or its perfect proportions.

Small wonder, then, that while a UK-registered left-hand drive car with 44,000 miles sold at auction in 2017 for £556,875, this car is rather pricier than that. Thanks to the multiplying effect of its low build numbers, tiny mileage, and reduced weight, it's listed for an eye-watering £1.7 million. Still, there'll be no shortage of wealthy Porsche enthusiasts lining up to add such a rare and beautiful part of the marque's recent history to their collections. Even at this money, dare we say it, we wouldn't blame them.


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myhandle

Original Poster:

1,187 posts

174 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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This is another one from the really weird collection of bizarrely specified 964s which sat in a lock-up in Jersey. I saw them about 15 years ago.

Two of the others have re-surfaced, still waiting on the fourth.

The other two:

https://www.motoringresearch.com/news/factory-fres...

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/ve17/villa-erba...

mikEsprit

828 posts

186 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Flamenco is apparently Italian for "hideous".

Stuart M 1976

62 posts

74 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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61 miles in 26 years. So now it's really like buying a painting or some other kind of static artwork? I mean, if somebody pays an amount near to what they are asking they are unlikely to add much to that mileage are they? In my view, most of the heart / Soul of this kind of car has been killed off because most of the feeling would be gained from driving it. I feel a bit sorry for the car.

DBRacingGod

609 posts

192 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Flamenco is apparently Italian for ‘vulva’.

fernando the frog

298 posts

68 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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1.7m? wtf

Plate spinner

17,698 posts

200 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Very interesting car, didn’t even know it existed!!

On a separate note, looks like our speculator has decided the market is at its peak and the time to sell is now...

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

163 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Flamenco is Spanish BTW.

It's a better colour than grey.

DBRacingGod

609 posts

192 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Pericoloso said:
Flamenco is Spanish BTW.

It's a better colour than grey.
You should be a car salesman for Porsche.

Burnham

3,668 posts

259 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Stuart M 1976 said:
61 miles in 26 years. So now it's really like buying a painting or some other kind of static artwork? I mean, if somebody pays an amount near to what they are asking they are unlikely to add much to that mileage are they? In my view, most of the heart / Soul of this kind of car has been killed off because most of the feeling would be gained from driving it. I feel a bit sorry for the car.
Yeah, it's such a shame. How much willpower would you need to buy that and decide to just put it away?

Crazy

MikeGoodwin

3,339 posts

117 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Stuart M 1976 said:
61 miles in 26 years. So now it's really like buying a painting or some other kind of static artwork? I mean, if somebody pays an amount near to what they are asking they are unlikely to add much to that mileage are they? In my view, most of the heart / Soul of this kind of car has been killed off because most of the feeling would be gained from driving it. I feel a bit sorry for the car.
Pathetic isn't it. Look at the mileages on cars like the Carerra GT in the ad section. 3k miles in 13 years some of them. Did the owner just sit there wking over it?

I also had to laugh at the price of the 997 4.0 RS. Half a mil most of them barely used.


CedricN

820 posts

145 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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If i were forced to swap my 924 turbo for something rear engined this would probably be the choice. If we skipped the discussion about money smile

Or maybe a 934 race car, tough choice smile

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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It's strange, the 964 turbo s was on sale albeit in tiny uk numbers with a 3.3l engine, at the same time as the 'normal' 964 turbo with a new 3.6l engine. I think Nick Faldo had an S model.

broganski

42 posts

192 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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myhandle said:
This is another one from the really weird collection of bizarrely specified 964s which sat in a lock-up in Jersey. I saw them about 15 years ago.

Two of the others have re-surfaced, still waiting on the fourth.

The other two:

https://www.motoringresearch.com/news/factory-fres...

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/ve17/villa-erba...
Any more info on this collection? Thanks

HumanSteamroller

114 posts

77 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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myhandle said:
This is another one from the really weird collection of bizarrely specified 964s which sat in a lock-up in Jersey. I saw them about 15 years ago.

Two of the others have re-surfaced, still waiting on the fourth.

The other two:

https://www.motoringresearch.com/news/factory-fres...

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/ve17/villa-erba...
That RSR in your second link is just incredible, and without a doubt my ultimate Porsche. Remarkable stuff.

Venturist

3,472 posts

195 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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All those lightweight options must really let the 964 platform’s abilities shine like no other, as it rolls off the truck into the dealership for it’s annual service before being returned to dry storage. Rubbish.

Mr.Grooler

1,179 posts

225 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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HumanSteamroller said:
That RSR in your second link is just incredible, and without a doubt my ultimate Porsche. Remarkable stuff.
It certainly has a remarkable interior!!

humphra

482 posts

92 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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Mr.Grooler said:
HumanSteamroller said:
That RSR in your second link is just incredible, and without a doubt my ultimate Porsche. Remarkable stuff.
It certainly has a remarkable interior!!
I had to check it out and now..... !!?! That interior is shocking. I didn't know they could even make interiors that looked that bright in colour. Or maybe it was a fresh arterial bleed. One of the two.

aeropilot

34,598 posts

227 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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broganski said:
myhandle said:
This is another one from the really weird collection of bizarrely specified 964s which sat in a lock-up in Jersey. I saw them about 15 years ago.

Two of the others have re-surfaced, still waiting on the fourth.

The other two:

https://www.motoringresearch.com/news/factory-fres...

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/ve17/villa-erba...
Any more info on this collection? Thanks
Whoever bought them new obviously liked red interiors laugh

Had to laugh at the wording in the first link about delivery mileage, on that car saying it must be the only one....(err other than the white one he stashed away as well!!)
So, of the 11 RHD, one person bought 2 of the 11 new, and stashed them both away with a delivery miles RSR.
Wonder what the 4th car is then, other than its likely to have a red interior?

Given he/she knew they were never going to drive or use them, its surprising that they bothered to order them in such unusual factory spec.

siwhit

59 posts

181 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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All that weight stripped to improve the driving experience and it has never, and never will be, driven. Sad, very sad

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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If I won lotto I’d buy that and daily it!