Tyres for shed - part worn or new?
Discussion
My favourite tyres for use in the north west of the UK (where it's ALWAYS f
kING RAINING) are Uniroyal Rainsport 3s - I don't think these are anywhere near budget, yet I just put some fronts onto Mrs DSs SLK 225/45/17s and they were £57 each. I don't recall ever getting such cheap tyres.
kING RAINING) are Uniroyal Rainsport 3s - I don't think these are anywhere near budget, yet I just put some fronts onto Mrs DSs SLK 225/45/17s and they were £57 each. I don't recall ever getting such cheap tyres.Last time I went for cheap tyres, I ended up buying 4 alloys off Facebook Marketplace with decent tyres on them. £100 advertised but 1 alloy was scuffed and not on the pictures. Didn't care but got a tenner knocked off. Didn't even need to balance them, bolted straight on on the drive and off I went! Had a goof 5-6mm of tread on all 4, can't remember what brand but for a commuter car I only wanted black with tread on. £22.50 each "fitted" and I could sell them or my original alloys on. Sold the car, the original alloys are actually in my shed thinking about it..
I think it's unclear whether part worns are actually cheaper in the long run. You need to factor in that a tyre with an original tread depth of 7mm has only actually got 5mm of usable tread (assuming you change at 2mm) so to get half the life it needs to have 4.5mm of tread left. Add up the cost of fitting and balancing and I think it's probably not worth it.
Anyway, for me the overriding argument against part worns isn't cost but the unknown history of the tyre.
Anyway, for me the overriding argument against part worns isn't cost but the unknown history of the tyre.
Terzo123 said:
xjay1337 said:
HustleRussell said:
addz86 said:
I’d rather go for part worn high end tyres than new budgets personally
Nexen, Barum £40 delivered- not ‘budgets’. Excellent performance for the cash
They are not inspiring at all, my car felt unstable, lacked grip, no feel and even worse once there is a tiny bit of moisture in the air.
https://www.tyretests.co.uk/autobild/summer/2017/2...
The Rainsport is only marginally off the top 5.
Those Barums mentioned as being good look rather crap to.
aka_kerrly said:
Terzo123 said:
xjay1337 said:
HustleRussell said:
addz86 said:
I’d rather go for part worn high end tyres than new budgets personally
Nexen, Barum £40 delivered- not ‘budgets’.Excellent performance for the cash
They are not inspiring at all, my car felt unstable, lacked grip, no feel and even worse once there is a tiny bit of moisture in the air.
https://www.tyretests.co.uk/autobild/summer/2017/2...
The Rainsport is only marginally off the top 5.
Those Barums mentioned as being good look rather crap to.
First off the Nexens you have tried and which appear on the list are a different tyre to the one I suggested at £38, it's the N-blue HD.
Secondly I said that they are 'not budgets', not that they are 'good', which is true- lo and behold, the Barums sit below the excellent and very good tyres and above the absolutely appalling and poor tyres in the tyre test. Hence the definition of mid range tyres.
Maybe if we could get some several year old, previous generation £35 part worn tyres in the test we can see if they are as good as the brand new premium tyres
If the OP can stretch his budget a bit I'd recommend the Uniroyals too.
addz86 said:
I’d rather go for part worn high end tyres than new budgets personally
^^^THIS^^^ A set of Michelin part worn i.e. 6-7mm is a far better option than brand new LingLongs for what will be pretty much the same cost.When you buy a second hand car you are inheriting effectively 'part worn' tyres.
meatballs said:
You buy part worn whenever you buy a used car tbh
Pupbelly said:
When you buy a second hand car you are inheriting effectively 'part worn' tyres.
Yep, and I can't wait to wear them out and put new ones on.Anyway at least if your tyres come with the car you get to have a look at the condition of the car, and the wheels, to get an idea of whether they've been crashed or bombed into kerbs and pot holes...
I've got issues with using part worn tyres
but ...
www.mytyres.co.uk has Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance at £51.70 each delivered at the moment (& some Pirelli's at £1.10 more)
I'd be very tempted by that to be honest
but ...
www.mytyres.co.uk has Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance at £51.70 each delivered at the moment (& some Pirelli's at £1.10 more)
I'd be very tempted by that to be honest
I've run part worns before and haven't died, but when I can get a brand new Rovelo fitted at my house for £30 a corner I don't see the point in going used.
So I put £120 of new rubber on my £150 Citroen ZX, and their utterly fine, the raging powah of the 1.4 8v engine is no match for the cheap chinese rubber..
Was through mytyres, with a discount code. Cheaper than national tyres for the same exact tyre, a National van came and supplied and fitted them!
So I put £120 of new rubber on my £150 Citroen ZX, and their utterly fine, the raging powah of the 1.4 8v engine is no match for the cheap chinese rubber..
Was through mytyres, with a discount code. Cheaper than national tyres for the same exact tyre, a National van came and supplied and fitted them!
Every one who has ever bought a second hand car has bought a set of part worns.
Any reputable place will only stock/fit good tyres, and will let you inspect them before fitting. For a variety of reasons I have used them from time to time, including for my trailer, although I usually buy new brand name tyres.
Daniel
Any reputable place will only stock/fit good tyres, and will let you inspect them before fitting. For a variety of reasons I have used them from time to time, including for my trailer, although I usually buy new brand name tyres.
Daniel
I got a pair of brand new pair of ditchfinders fitted and balanced for £65 for my 1.6 Focus
It was a relatively local place I found on eBay, distance 'nearest first'
ETA: This place https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/205-55-16-PAIR-OF-BRAND...
It was a relatively local place I found on eBay, distance 'nearest first'
ETA: This place https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/205-55-16-PAIR-OF-BRAND...
Edited by p4cks on Wednesday 21st August 14:28
I wouldnt go full winter, but you can get all season tyres, which have a compound suitable for winter use and partial siped area, while also some larger tread blocks. They will give excellent snow/cold performance compared to a summer tyre but also reasonable wear rates as long as you dont scrub the tyres. Any wheel spin on the dry and you will chew them in no time.
Think I had a pair of Vredestein Quatrac 3 on the front of my 306, something like that, before about 5 deg you could really fill the difference. But your now talking reasonable money for new tyres, not £15 a corner.
Think I had a pair of Vredestein Quatrac 3 on the front of my 306, something like that, before about 5 deg you could really fill the difference. But your now talking reasonable money for new tyres, not £15 a corner.
OP
You wanted winters.
Budget winters are DANGEROUS in the wet.
So just buy these.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2X-195-60R16C-MICHELIN-...
and
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-195-60-R15-Michelin-...
Easy.
Loads of other good branded part worns for around 25 a corner.
You wanted winters.
Budget winters are DANGEROUS in the wet.
So just buy these.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2X-195-60R16C-MICHELIN-...
and
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-195-60-R15-Michelin-...
Easy.
Loads of other good branded part worns for around 25 a corner.
I've rung around the local area. Cheapest I can get down to for new ditchfinders is £50 a corner fitted.
I have found some Avon WT7 (which seem to have good wet weather performance) for £57.92 fitted on Black Circles. May just go for them.
And the place that fits them is 1.0 mile away.
Cheapest Black Circles standard ditch finders are £43.21 fitted.
I have found some Avon WT7 (which seem to have good wet weather performance) for £57.92 fitted on Black Circles. May just go for them.
And the place that fits them is 1.0 mile away.
Cheapest Black Circles standard ditch finders are £43.21 fitted.
Edited by funkyrobot on Wednesday 21st August 14:51
Edit: I've just seen you went for new tyres - good decision.
My advice is to never skimp on safety critical stuff.
The tyres really should match left to right in terms of tread pattern and amount/evenness of wear, or it could severely affect handling and impede braking/aquaplaning stability. This can be difficult if the part worns come from different donor cars.
Part worn tyres are, to some extent, unevenly worn based on the suspension of their donor car. On your car, the uneven wear spots will be different which can yield unexpected behaviour.
You'll want good rubber at least on your front axle. You'll want the most tread depth possible, for driving on wet days. The rubber should not be old, brittle or cracked.
My advice is to never skimp on safety critical stuff.
The tyres really should match left to right in terms of tread pattern and amount/evenness of wear, or it could severely affect handling and impede braking/aquaplaning stability. This can be difficult if the part worns come from different donor cars.
Part worn tyres are, to some extent, unevenly worn based on the suspension of their donor car. On your car, the uneven wear spots will be different which can yield unexpected behaviour.
You'll want good rubber at least on your front axle. You'll want the most tread depth possible, for driving on wet days. The rubber should not be old, brittle or cracked.
I don't understand why some buy the cheapest crappiest tyres for any car, they might be 'fine' for 99% of the time but the one time you need to make that emergency stop or manoeuvre at motorway speeds you'd better have your fingers crossed, some of the cheaper ones have the stopping distances increased by 20 metres compared to decent tyres at 70mph, that's the difference between having a big accident or stopping safely, also the extra distance required to stop at town speeds could be the difference in you knocking someone over who's walked into the road without looking.
Its a major false economy in my book, but each to their own.
Its a major false economy in my book, but each to their own.
Jazoli said:
I don't understand why some buy the cheapest crappiest tyres for any car, they might be 'fine' for 99% of the time but the one time you need to make that emergency stop or manoeuvre at motorway speeds you'd better have your fingers crossed, some of the cheaper ones have the stopping distances increased by 20 metres compared to decent tyres at motorway speeds, that's the difference between having a big accident or stopping safely, also the extra distance required to stop at town speeds could be the difference in you knocking someone over who's walked into the road without looking.
Its a major false economy in my book
Unless you can provide some independent, scientific evidence to support the stopping distance claim then I'll start to listen. Its a major false economy in my book
If you think I'm putting Potenzas on my £500 Focus then you need your head read.
I've used part worns before and never had an issue with them, only that they're what they say on the tin - part worn and will need replacing sooner than new tyres.
I'd be more inclined to go on Blackcircles and get some of their own brand budgets. Having used them, I'm pleasantly surprised at the value and performance and would much rather go that route than part worns
I'd imagine on a focus 1.6 new good budgets would cost about the same as part worns.
I'd be more inclined to go on Blackcircles and get some of their own brand budgets. Having used them, I'm pleasantly surprised at the value and performance and would much rather go that route than part worns
I'd imagine on a focus 1.6 new good budgets would cost about the same as part worns.
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