Tyres for shed - part worn or new?

[Initforthemoney]

bluezedd said:

Initforthemoney said:

So in that case, it doesn't really matter then.

Do what you like, but I take exception the minute anyone starts giving out safety advice to others on something they don't have a clue about, with their only support being the anecdotal evidence of "not being dead".

Ok, so could you provide some evidence of new tyres being fitted to the wrong axle that have caused injury or death?

[HustleRussell]

Initforthemoney said:

The best tyres should be on the driven wheels.

Initforthemoney said:

Always fitted new to the driven on all our cars, and not died yet.

Initforthemoney said:

Ok, so could you provide some evidence of new tyres being fitted to the wrong axle that have caused injury or death?

You’re wrong, you’re dispensing bad advice. ‘Not died yet’ is where your climb down started.

You can learn stuff from people in this forum if you’re open to it.

[Bobberoo99]

Couple of questions for the OP, how far do you drive each day? What sort of roads?
As I posted earlier, part worns on my daily driven Rover, I was asked to choose the tyres i was happy with by the supplier, two very good condition part worn Coopers for £50 and I rate them more than the Dunlops already on the car, I do 15 miles a day six days a week so they'll probably last longer than the car will, unless you're hooning around fast A/B roads pretending you're a racing driver i don't see wgat the problem is!

[Initforthemoney]

HustleRussell said:

Initforthemoney said:

The best tyres should be on the driven wheels.

Initforthemoney said:

Always fitted new to the driven on all our cars, and not died yet.

Initforthemoney said:

Ok, so could you provide some evidence of new tyres being fitted to the wrong axle that have caused injury or death?

You’re wrong, you’re dispensing bad advice. ‘Not died yet’ is where your climb down started.

You can learn stuff from people in this forum if you’re open to it.

I am happy to learn, but being told ‘you’re wrong’ without any evidence as I’ve requested, isn’t the way to learn people.

[HustleRussell]

Initforthemoney said:

HustleRussell said:

Initforthemoney said:

The best tyres should be on the driven wheels.

Initforthemoney said:

Always fitted new to the driven on all our cars, and not died yet.

Initforthemoney said:

Ok, so could you provide some evidence of new tyres being fitted to the wrong axle that have caused injury or death?

You’re wrong, you’re dispensing bad advice. ‘Not died yet’ is where your climb down started.

You can learn stuff from people in this forum if you’re open to it.

I am happy to learn, but being told ‘you’re wrong’ without any evidence as I’ve requested, isn’t the way to learn people.

Fill yer boots

[Pica-Pica]

Initforthemoney said:

HustleRussell said:

Initforthemoney said:

The best tyres should be on the driven wheels.

Initforthemoney said:

Always fitted new to the driven on all our cars, and not died yet.

Initforthemoney said:

Ok, so could you provide some evidence of new tyres being fitted to the wrong axle that have caused injury or death?

You’re wrong, you’re dispensing bad advice. ‘Not died yet’ is where your climb down started.

You can learn stuff from people in this forum if you’re open to it.

I am happy to learn, but being told ‘you’re wrong’ without any evidence as I’ve requested, isn’t the way to learn people.

All reputable tyre companies and testers will recommend that the best tyres should be on the rear, regardless of drive configuration. Losing grip at the front will result in understeer, which is reasonably easy to accommodate. Losing grip on the rear will result in oversteer, which is more difficult to control, especially if a driver panics and brakes (making the rear end lighter still), or overcorrects which may swing the car back the other way.
You can search many tyre sites, they will all concur with this.

[Initforthemoney]

Pica-Pica said:

Initforthemoney said:

HustleRussell said:

Initforthemoney said:

The best tyres should be on the driven wheels.

Initforthemoney said:

Always fitted new to the driven on all our cars, and not died yet.

Initforthemoney said:

Ok, so could you provide some evidence of new tyres being fitted to the wrong axle that have caused injury or death?

You’re wrong, you’re dispensing bad advice. ‘Not died yet’ is where your climb down started.

You can learn stuff from people in this forum if you’re open to it.

I am happy to learn, but being told ‘you’re wrong’ without any evidence as I’ve requested, isn’t the way to learn people.

All reputable tyre companies and testers will recommend that the best tyres should be on the rear, regardless of drive configuration. Losing grip at the front will result in understeer, which is reasonably easy to accommodate. Losing grip on the rear will result in oversteer, which is more difficult to control, especially if a driver panics and brakes (making the rear end lighter still), or overcorrects which may swing the car back the other way.
You can search many tyre sites, they will all concur with this.

Thanks.

[xjay1337]

HustleRussell said:

funkyrobot said:

thiscocks said:

You wouldn't buy part worn brakes would you?

You do if you buy a used vehicle.

Fortunately for everybody, the performance of a cars brakes is verified annually while tyres are only subject to a visual check.

To be fair many people buy used brakes (certainly in the case of aftermarket upgraded ones or in the case of fitting say, Rs5 brakes to a normal A5.

They work fine too..!

[bluezedd]

Initforthemoney said:

I am happy to learn, but being told ‘you’re wrong’ without any evidence as I’ve requested, isn’t the way to learn people.

Maybe you should follow your own advice, and not correct people without any evidence or understanding, like you did here.

Initforthemoney said:

The best tyres should be on the driven wheels.

Also, what kind of evidence would suffice? Perhaps a video summary of research conducted by Michelin, ADAC, and ÖAMTC on this very subject.

bluezedd said:

nope:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrS0cIB7JfI

Just like the one I posted and you obviously chose to ignore...

Edited by bluezedd on Wednesday 21st August 23:03

[Initforthemoney]

bluezedd said:

Initforthemoney said:

I am happy to learn, but being told ‘you’re wrong’ without any evidence as I’ve requested, isn’t the way to learn people.

Maybe you should follow your own advice, and not correct people without any evidence or understanding, like you did here.

Initforthemoney said:

The best tyres should be on the driven wheels.

Also, what kind of evidence would suffice? Perhaps a video summary of research conducted by Michelin, ADAC, and ÖAMTC on this very subject.

bluezedd said:

nope:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrS0cIB7JfI

Just like the one I posted and you obviously chose to ignore...

Edited by bluezedd on Wednesday 21st August 23:03

Ok so that video provides a recommendation.

In that case, please could you provide evidence of injuries or fatalities from new tyres being fitted to the ‘wrong’ axle, as I am concerned that what I have posted is not safe.

Thanks.

[bluezedd]

Initforthemoney said:

Ok so that video provides a recommendation.

In that case, please could you provide evidence of injuries or fatalities from new tyres being fitted to the ‘wrong’ axle, as I am concerned that what I have posted is not safe.

Thanks.

Based on scientific evidence...

This video might help you understand why you should put your best tyres on the rear, and why you'd want the front tyres to let go before the rear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSz7cm6MwH0

There's over 900 people killed or seriously injured a year due to tyre defects. I'm not sure why you would intentionally go against what all tyre manufacturers and tyre research shows is the safer configuration.

Edited by bluezedd on Thursday 22 August 00:23