RE: Audi Sport unveils all-new 600hp RS6 Avant

RE: Audi Sport unveils all-new 600hp RS6 Avant

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mhurley

823 posts

134 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Will these cars ever become "too quick" if they aren't so already??

akhtar-7lln8

2 posts

72 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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absolutely stunning rs
stealth ready for mission
was due a upgrade fpr some time ...

RSbandit

2,615 posts

133 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Gandahar said:
Me too. Big range, quiet, comfy, fit loads in it. And a sports car with non of the above but more fun.

Considering this will cost £110k with all the sporty chassis, brake, engine, suspension options you could get a brand new Boxster GTS and a A6 sport 45 TFSI quattro
Only prob with that is running two cars doesn't suit everyone and extra costs of insurance, tax, parking space and general servicing etc ...if you need one family wagon with serious performance hard to look past tbh...had a C7 RS6 for 4 years and it was a pleasure to own did many the long run in Europe and it was comfortable, fast with lots of luggage space...these will make a lovely buy in 3 yrs time when they are 40k cheaper! The black or carbon styling packs will sort out the fussy rear end from the pics

cerb4.5lee

30,734 posts

181 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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neil1jnr said:
cerb4.5lee said:
blueg33 said:
I must be getting old, I am failing to see the point.

I like fast cars and this has silly performance for a massive estate car, but it just doesn't light my fire. For silly fast driving I would rather have a sports car, for a family wagon, I really don't need all that power. My old A6 with just under 300bhp has quick enough as an everyday car.
I do get what you are saying but I've always really liked the RS6 because it is so overpowered and mostly pointless(in the UK at least). So It makes me want one even more because of it! smokin
It's all about having reserves of power, it's there when required. Although personally I fail to see how you CAN'T use 600bhp daily in a heavy car with 4WD.
I guess that you can use all of the power...but you just have to make sure that you don't get caught doing it!!

cerb4.5lee

30,734 posts

181 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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J4CKO said:
Not a car I would buy particularly, mainly as I cant afford it and am getting past speed for speeds sake to an extent, wouldnt say no but it is at odds with keeping my license, but am glad they still make stuff like this.
I can't afford one either and even if I could I don't think that I'd be able to afford to fuel it as a daily. I heard one start up the other day(I was a tad disappointed at how quiet it was though), and I just love the shape and how fast they are in such a practical body.

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

164 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Looks the business apart from the rear bumper.

HighwayStar

4,286 posts

145 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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akhtar-7lln8 said:
absolutely stunning rs
stealth ready for mission
was due a upgrade fpr some time ...
Stealthy it isn't. Some people complain that M5's are too understated for their tastes and would want to show they'd got something a bit special, powerful etc.
This new RS6, big wheels, blister arches, get out of the way front end... I think the average man in the street seeing it parked up would know there was this was more that the average A6 than 5 Series to M5.

apm142001

276 posts

90 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Looks pretty good (though I've always liked the V10 one from a few years ago best, mainly because its engine is a bit more unnecessary...)

But an 80mm width increase on an already-large car?? Must be a bit impractical for country roads, average car park spaces, etc.

Kubevoid

192 posts

57 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Wow... well over two tons now. Loads of tacky tat glued on. Yet lots of praise here. I guess Audi know their market!

I prefer old school Audi, where the fast versions merely had a small badge.

Whatever next. Maybe three ton cars with 1000bhp. Something to look forward to laugh

PowerEnhancer

43 posts

197 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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thelostboy said:
PowerEnhancer said:
I miss my C7 RS6 and this looks fantastic. DRC pack is a must as it handled so much better than the standard air suspension model I had before it. I suspect this will be similar.

Rear sports diff was standard on the C7 so I hope they haven't rolled back some previously standard options? Would be a shame as the M5 needs very little in the way of options.
I noticed that.

From experience, the RS6 can get very expensive when you add options and I imagine adding the rear diff and rear wheel steering - even bundled as a 'pack' - will mean this is a easily north of £100,000 if you opt for the ceramics.

When i had a C7 Performance, I managed to get a £14,000 discount using CarWow, but imagine the same won't come easily until these are a couple of years old. That's difficult to swallow when you can get significant discounts on the alternative BMW and Mercs.

I would say though that the C7 RS6 was genuinely the absolute best car I've ever had in terms of ticking just about every box possible. It went like stink, was fun to drive despite its size, had all the toys, and received more comments than you'd imagine a black estate car ever could. Despite having 600bhp, I easily got over 30mpg too thanks to the cylinder deactivation. It was truly a wonderful car. If the C8 achieves the same, it'll be a winner.
Yup, DRC/dynamic pack, sports diff etc. that should be supplied as standard will turn this into a £100K car before any real options are selected.

Best car I ever owned too. Started with a basic 2014 model and then traded in for a fully loaded 2016 model and that was even better. Look great, sound great and go like advertised.

10-15% will be available after 12-24 months but BMW are offering over 25+% discount on the M5 right now!

kars

175 posts

170 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Kubevoid said:
Wow... well over two tons now. Loads of tacky tat glued on. Yet lots of praise here. I guess Audi know their market!

I prefer old school Audi, where the fast versions merely had a small badge.

Whatever next. Maybe three ton cars with 1000bhp. Something to look forward to laugh
Agree 100%!
No one complaining about engine placement over the front axle, no 2wd setting.

All they care is the styling....

Leon R

3,213 posts

97 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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kars said:
Kubevoid said:
Wow... well over two tons now. Loads of tacky tat glued on. Yet lots of praise here. I guess Audi know their market!

I prefer old school Audi, where the fast versions merely had a small badge.

Whatever next. Maybe three ton cars with 1000bhp. Something to look forward to laugh
Agree 100%!
No one complaining about engine placement over the front axle, no 2wd setting.

All they care is the styling....
Meh... IMO the two wheel drive thing in the BMW and the Merc is just a gimmick, much like launch control being on every new performance car.


thelostboy

4,570 posts

226 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Looks are one thing, but anyone bemoaning the RS6 just cleary hasn't driven one.

I race an Elan which weighs under 600kg, yet I still think the RS6 is great to drive. Every preconception you have about it being too big, or too fast for the road.... rubbish.

Undoubtedly a lot of money, but on the plus side, you save money and hassle versus a practical, luxury car plus a sports car. As someone else said, not everyone has the appetite to run a fleet, or the space to house one.

Onehp

1,617 posts

284 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Gandahar said:
blueg33 said:
I must be getting old, I am failing to see the point.

I like fast cars and this has silly performance for a massive estate car, but it just doesn't light my fire. For silly fast driving I would rather have a sports car, for a family wagon, I really don't need all that power. My old A6 with just under 300bhp has quick enough as an everyday car.
Me too. Big range, quiet, comfy, fit loads in it. And a sports car with non of the above but more fun.

Considering this will cost £110k with all the sporty chassis, brake, engine, suspension options you could get a brand new Boxster GTS and a A6 sport 45 TFSI quattro
Yeah, but as pointed out sometimes there is only room for one car (fysically, wallet and/or heart). For one car solution the RS6 is great surely but costly and weighty.

If you want more handling and ditch roughly 400kg, the new CLA45 AMG Shooting Break is something to look forward to.
If you can ditch the 4wd for more lightweight oldschool enjoyment, I'm still very pleased with my modified Cupra ST, bit bigger boot yet 600kg or so lighter it matches a 718 for weight and power... And manual, too...

Al U

2,313 posts

132 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Coming soon to a post office robbery near you soon!

kars

175 posts

170 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Leon R said:
kars said:
Kubevoid said:
Wow... well over two tons now. Loads of tacky tat glued on. Yet lots of praise here. I guess Audi know their market!

I prefer old school Audi, where the fast versions merely had a small badge.

Whatever next. Maybe three ton cars with 1000bhp. Something to look forward to laugh
Agree 100%!
No one complaining about engine placement over the front axle, no 2wd setting.

All they care is the styling....
Meh... IMO the two wheel drive thing in the BMW and the Merc is just a gimmick, much like launch control being on every new performance car.
If I had the money, I wouldn't buy a car witch doesn't have a RWD (or rwd option*), It's a deal breaker for me.

E65Ross

35,100 posts

213 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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kars said:
C8 rs6 = complete fail, like I was expecting.
This car has nothing on f90 m5 and e63s, bmw/merc beat audi at their on game. Laughable....

If I buy a car like this I absolutely don't care about laser headlights, and all other BS, all I want to do is to go sideways, it's the 1# priority!
Well firstly, I think it has a number on the M5 because the M5 is saloon only.... Secondly, what doesn't it have on the Merc?

Burnham

3,668 posts

260 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Optional 22" Wheels!? Yes please.

Onehp

1,617 posts

284 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Kubevoid said:
Whatever next. Maybe three ton cars with 1000bhp. Something to look forward to laugh
Soon halfway there, the Panamera ST Turbo S Hybrid (not sure I got that right) is 2,5 tonnes, 680hp and rumoured to get over 800hp soon and not much hopes it being lighter...

kars

175 posts

170 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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E65Ross said:
kars said:
C8 rs6 = complete fail, like I was expecting.
This car has nothing on f90 m5 and e63s, bmw/merc beat audi at their on game. Laughable....

If I buy a car like this I absolutely don't care about laser headlights, and all other BS, all I want to do is to go sideways, it's the 1# priority!
Well firstly, I think it has a number on the M5 because the M5 is saloon only.... Secondly, what doesn't it have on the Merc?
2wd, R20 wheels, more power&torque


Edited by kars on Wednesday 21st August 14:48