RE: Audi A4 Avant 2.5 V6 | Shed of the Week

RE: Audi A4 Avant 2.5 V6 | Shed of the Week

Friday 23rd August 2019

Audi A4 Avant 2.5 V6 | Shed of the Week

In a week which has mostly been about Audi wagons, Shed gives the people what they want



Never take car ad pictures in the rain, they say. So what are you supposed to do if you live in Lancashire, where it rains practically all the time? Well, it did when Shed lived there anyway, although in truth he may have been confused by his permanently tear-soaked spectacles after he had finally came to terms with the fact that Mrs Shed wasn't thinking of leaving anytime soon.

The one good thing about rainy car pics is that you can sometimes tell from the droplet pattern on the bodywork how well (or not) a car has been looked after. Although this week's Shed, an A4 Avant 2.5 TDi quattro Sport doesn't have those crazy-small droplets that mega-detailed motors seem to have, it does appear to have had the odd dod of wax slapped on it at some point, and there's no evidence of rust anywhere on the bodywork.

Less optimistically, the MOT history suggests a 'just in time' approach has been followed in terms of consumables like tyres and brakes. It failed its MOT in July on an inoperative headlight. None of the advisories were sorted for the retest, so the next owner will have a few jobs to attend to: at least one new tyre plus some work on the rear brakes and maybe the front lower arm ball joint.


Shed reckons that S line A4s didn't come out until 2004, which might explain the word 'kit' in the text. In another fearless display of possible ignorance Shed thought that the actual power of a post-June 2002 2.5 litre diesel V6 might be 163hp rather than the 180hp the ad is claiming, or the 177hp ventured by the PH ad bot. Then again, he does now seem to recall that there was a powered-up version for quattro cars (which this is). Oh, the perils of old age and jellifying brain cells.

Either way, if you want a nice combination of torque, economy and driver engagement, this small V6 diesel with 273lb ft between 1500 and 2500rpm is probably the pick of the A4 Avant engine choices, especially if you are one of those who like to tow small houses along behind you. Properly looked after, they are very strong.

They're not perfect, mind. Things do go wrong, and when they do that can be big money. Turbos fail. The 2.5s are also known for injector pump failure, which will cost well into four figures to put right. Camshaft wear can be a problem on inadequately maintained cars, and especially those that have been left to fend for themselves on the lubrication front. Looking at what we said earlier about the burnable stuff, that might be a consideration here.


We are told that there is performance induction and exhaust gear on this car, but then again the advertiser does list 'previous MOT history' as a feature, so who knows. Oil leaks from either the sump gasket, rocker covers, oil filter O-ring, the main crank seal, or all four at the same time are far from unknown. The sump itself is vulnerable to puncturing if you regularly traverse stony roads. Alternators let go. So do fuel pumps and they can be extremely expensive (£1000 plus) to sort out. It's very much worth changing the fuel filter every 6000 miles.

Timing is by belt on an 80k turnround. Replacement kits from VAG didn't include the water pump, which was peculiar as this was without doubt the weakest link in the chain (or not chain). EGR delete is a good mod that will keep a lot of crud out of the engine, which is not a light unit by the way so front suspension arms go at a rate of knots. If the 2.5 is like most other VAG products of this era it will have an ECU under the front passenger carpet. You don't want to get that wet. Rear washer pipes split and front wiper mechanisms seize up.

2.5 power glitches could have a variety of causes and stumbling around to find out which one it is could cost you money. Overboosting will manifest itself as a sudden shoot forward after initial low-rpm sluggishness and might indicate a wastegate issue. Low power could be something as straightforward as faulty hosework to and from the charge pressure control valve or the intercooler, or a failed mass air flow sensor, or a blocked cat. Sometimes a good 'Italian service' blast up the dual carriageway will sort things out.


The 5-speed Tiptronic gearbox is a conventional torque converter auto and one of those miracle transmissions (not unique to Audi) that 'never need servicing' (ha!). Not everyone likes it because pressing on requires the use of a fair few revs, which hurts economy. And although the 2.5 TDI is juicy relative to the 1.9, it's positively miserly compared to the 3.0. Expect mid 30s round town and mid to high 40s out on the open road. Lumpy Tiptronic changes can be down to something quite separate such as a dodgy coolant temperature sensor or air mass meter. If the engine is idling high at 1200+rpm rather than the 900 or so it should be at, then the chances are you'll be able to escape a £4000+ bill for a new gearbox.

If you're more interested in great mpg and Galapagos turtle longevity, you'd obviously be better off looking at a 1.9 TDI, but because everybody else is doing that very thing, examples of those with reasonable mileages are very thin on the ground these days. The big benefit of choosing a 2.5 Avant was a very nice spec, and that's what you get here. Our Shed also has a sunshine roof, or a rain roof in this case.

All in all, not a bad shout at £1495 or less. Of course, you may prefer the extra grunt and carrying capacity of the newly-announced 600hp RS6, but by the time one of those arrives in SOTW Shed will be well past caring.


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mossy50

Original Poster:

11 posts

83 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Maybe Sold already as ad not showing up anything as of (01.25am) Oh Well

C.MW

473 posts

69 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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After taking a good look at the latest RS6 the styling of this A4 is quite refreshing with no pointless agressiveness and bling inside out.

Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Nice car fitted with a handgrenade for an engine........
Noted as the worst engine Audi ever fitted to a car!!

Rensko

237 posts

106 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Sorry PH, but this is as shed I can't get excited about frown

So much grey, so much automatic diesel...

Court_S

12,966 posts

177 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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These eastward were absolutely tiny. A colleague had one at a previous company I worked for and three adults in the back was bloody uncomfortable.

They’re quite handsome in a rather bland, inoffensive way. This one does sounds like it may be it a bit rubbish though.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Nice looking car inside and out but does sound like an awful lot to go wrong

AC43

11,488 posts

208 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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A mate of mine had a 3.0 petrol in that colour with privacy glass. Looked lovely, fabulous interior.

But the boot was miniscule (useless for all the baby clutter he had to drag around at the time) and it was the first car I'd been in which had concrete suspension. The appalling ride dominated the whole experience from me.

Shame, as I liked the rest of it.

cerb4.5lee

30,673 posts

180 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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I've always really liked the shape of these, the 3.0 petrol would be my preference in this though I think.

There is something very appealing about the A4 Avant...just not this one sadly.

sledge68

755 posts

197 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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I had this model albeit 2litre D, so small inside and horrid to drive , sold it after 3 weeks and bought a bug eye Imprezza Wagon which felt twice the size inside.

Last week a wolf in sheeps clothing , this week a sheep.

Limpet

6,314 posts

161 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Handsome old thing, although I always get instantly turned off by performance induction and exhausts on cars like this. It's a diesel estate, FFS! Why?!


The Hypno-Toad

12,283 posts

205 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Retail cost of the car - truly massive bills possibly lurking - = no thanks.

Some sheds are worth repairing and falling in love with. This is just an old silver Audi with a very big diesel engine which will probably be caned on emissions after the next election.

And with that, I'm ooutt.



Cambs_Stuart

2,874 posts

84 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Not a great shed. Although its a v6 estate with leather, which is normally perfect shed territory, it's the wrong engine, not great to drive and just too bland to be interesting.
I'd rather have the 3.0 flat six from the legacy last week and suffer the appaling fuel economy.

Lord_Howit_Hertz

1,899 posts

217 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Dollyman1850 said:
Nice car fitted with a handgrenade for an engine........
Probably couldn't have put it better myself, Had one, loved it except when things started to go wrong in the Engine department, after a few £k spent a couple of years later it completely gave up.

Jon_S_Rally

3,407 posts

88 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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This isn't a bad looking car, but that list of potential faults is frightening. With the odd exception, diesels of this era are to be avoided in my experience. They're more trouble than they're worth.

Limpet said:
Handsome old thing, although I always get instantly turned off by performance induction and exhausts on cars like this. It's a diesel estate, FFS! Why?!
Agreed. Exhaust and induction modifications on diesels are beyond tragic. Diesels (generally speaking) sound terrible. Making it louder doesn't make it any better. Performance modifications to a diesel are fine, but don't make it any louder!

soad

32,902 posts

176 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Lord_Howit_Hertz said:
Dollyman1850 said:
Nice car fitted with a handgrenade for an engine........
Probably couldn't have put it better myself, Had one, loved it except when things started to go wrong in the Engine department, after a few £k spent a couple of years later it completely gave up.
Tell us more details? Can’t be that bad...

Rumblestripe

2,944 posts

162 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Couldn't be any greyer.

Diesel. Auto. Grey. Black interior.

If it had Hotpoint on the front instead of the four rings no one would be interested at all. the vehicular equivalent of a fridge freezer.

ElectricPics

761 posts

81 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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The catalogue of potential borkery would put me off even if I was interested in such a bland repmobile shed.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Not a lot of space in the back (for passengers or luggage) and a fragile and potentially ruinous diesel at the front.

Why would you even consider it?

Denorth

559 posts

171 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Ok shed, for some fun and dumping it for a new car discount throught the scruppage scheme once those 90 days are done

Arese1973

51 posts

86 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Several friends owned this shape of A4 years back. Being a passenger in one is a neutral experience, they do not warm your knackers one jot. I had a 156 V6 at the time, I still miss it. I bet not many say that about an A4.