Why the hate for SUV convertibles?
Discussion
I can't see the appeal, but I'm sure many people do.
For what it's worth, we have a convertible. My other half is slap bang in the demographic for an SUV/SUV convertible, but thankfully, she doesn't like high-riding cars. This means our Jag saloon/BMW cabriolet combination covers almost all bases we need in a car.
Also keep a mk4 Golf for the bits those don't do.
For what it's worth, we have a convertible. My other half is slap bang in the demographic for an SUV/SUV convertible, but thankfully, she doesn't like high-riding cars. This means our Jag saloon/BMW cabriolet combination covers almost all bases we need in a car.
Also keep a mk4 Golf for the bits those don't do.
TheJimi said:
Something that never fails to amaze me is the amount of people unable to see beyond their own choices and tastes.
It's a sign of low Emotional Intelligence (EQ), and unfortunately it's rife. I'm not sure the world would be a better place if everyone had an IQ of 140+, but it damned sure would be if everyone had a higher EQ!Mark Asread said:
TheJimi said:
Something that never fails to amaze me is the amount of people unable to see beyond their own choices and tastes.
It's a sign of low Emotional Intelligence (EQ), and unfortunately it's rife. I'm not sure the world would be a better place if everyone had an IQ of 140+, but it damned sure would be if everyone had a higher EQ!
TheJimi said:
Mark Asread said:
TheJimi said:
Something that never fails to amaze me is the amount of people unable to see beyond their own choices and tastes.
It's a sign of low Emotional Intelligence (EQ), and unfortunately it's rife. I'm not sure the world would be a better place if everyone had an IQ of 140+, but it damned sure would be if everyone had a higher EQ!TheInternet said:
Imagine this being you, you just know people would sigh when they see you coming, try and hide before you come along and say cringe worthy things like “at one with the road, the RWD bias” and tell them all about your man cave and your castrol oil vintage sign
McAndy said:
I haven't read the whole thread, but does anybody have sales data for SUV convertibles? That'll soon point to whether some people can't see past their own taste, or whether the vast majority really don't want this niche!
I can’t think of many Convertibles on sale these days, apart from a 4 series, A5, the new replacement of the E class and c class called the cle I think, and the MX5, and the fiat 500c which I’m not sure actually countsThere’s more in the supercar category obviously
Not many at all in sub 40k, especially compared to 15 years ago when every brand had a focus CC, astra twin top, etc Audi have killed of the A3 cab this time round,
Edited by Nickbrapp on Tuesday 15th February 11:52
McAndy said:
I haven't read the whole thread, but does anybody have sales data for SUV convertibles? That'll soon point to whether some people can't see past their own taste, or whether the vast majority really don't want this niche!
Why is it an 'or' ? Both can be true......Some can't see past their own taste (they are off course entitled to their taste), and some then assume their taste a barometer of right and wrong (this is where it gets a bit daft).
And off course they are niche, same as Elise etc. They wont work for or appeal to everyone but will appeal to some. Can't be any surprise there.
cerb4.5lee said:
I've always been a bit like that with diesel convertibles. The whole idea of a convertible is to hear the engine/exhaust far more(from a nice sounding petrol engine)for me, so a clattery diesel engine and its exhaust wouldn't be something that I would want to hear even more.
As you say it just boils down to different choices and tastes, and I will admit to test driving a E93 330d convertible years ago, but I didn't go through with it because the car sold while I was making my mind up about it!
Actuaries, accountants and health and safety personal have the right to drive convertibles if they wish. It's prejudice to think they're only for happy people who want fun. As you say it just boils down to different choices and tastes, and I will admit to test driving a E93 330d convertible years ago, but I didn't go through with it because the car sold while I was making my mind up about it!
I've had to remind myself of this ever since Audi put a travelling salesman boat anchor in the TT and claimed it was a sports car.
I do think the only issue with modern SUVs being convertibles is that people look so small in cars today that SUVs in particular tend to look like a child is driving. When you consider convertible 4x4s of the past they tended to be smaller with the driver sitting higher relative to the top of the door. Other than that a convertible SUV makes perfect sense but today the safety and proportions of design don't allow the look to work that well.
Hungrymc said:
McAndy said:
I haven't read the whole thread, but does anybody have sales data for SUV convertibles? That'll soon point to whether some people can't see past their own taste, or whether the vast majority really don't want this niche!
Why is it an 'or' ? Both can be true......Some can't see past their own taste (they are off course entitled to their taste), and some then assume their taste a barometer of right and wrong (this is where it gets a bit daft).
And off course they are niche, same as Elise etc. They wont work for or appeal to everyone but will appeal to some. Can't be any surprise there.
https://jalopnik.com/the-weird-vw-t-roc-cabriolet-...
...and funnily enough the figures in that article also suggest that T-Roc cabrio sales are easily outstripping sales of all the cars made by both Lotus and Alpine put together. So I suppose that shows that driver-focussed lightweight cars are just rubbish niches that the vast majority don't want.
Nickbrapp said:
I can’t think of many Convertibles on sale these days, apart from a 4 series, A5, the new replacement of the E class and c class called the cle I think, and the MX5, and the fiat 500c which I’m not sure actually counts
There’s more in the supercar category obviously
Not many at all in sub 40k, especially compared to 15 years ago when every brand had a focus CC, astra twin top, etc Audi have killed of the A3 cab this time round,
And the TT, Z4, Fiat 124, Supra, Boxster, MINI, 8-series, Lexus LC, T-Roc and probably some others I'm not thinking of just now.There’s more in the supercar category obviously
Not many at all in sub 40k, especially compared to 15 years ago when every brand had a focus CC, astra twin top, etc Audi have killed of the A3 cab this time round,
Edited by Nickbrapp on Tuesday 15th February 11:52
Roger Irrelevant said:
Yep. The following would suggest that T-Roc cabrio sales are actually doing ok:
https://jalopnik.com/the-weird-vw-t-roc-cabriolet-...
...and funnily enough the figures in that article also suggest that T-Roc cabrio sales are easily outstripping sales of all the cars made by both Lotus and Alpine put together. So I suppose that shows that driver-focussed lightweight cars are just rubbish niches that the vast majority don't want.
I am surprise by that. I do not see many in the UK. Nor Evoques.https://jalopnik.com/the-weird-vw-t-roc-cabriolet-...
...and funnily enough the figures in that article also suggest that T-Roc cabrio sales are easily outstripping sales of all the cars made by both Lotus and Alpine put together. So I suppose that shows that driver-focussed lightweight cars are just rubbish niches that the vast majority don't want.
PH User said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
PH User said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Vidarr said:
Panamax said:
I thought Range Rover had tested and killed the whole concept of convertible SUVs with their short attempt at selling Evoque with a folding top. But today I encountered a VW T-Roc cabriolet for the first time. Bizarre thing. Will it catch on and start a new craze? Can't see it myself.
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/volkswagen/t-r...
its been on sale since 2020, you've seen one and I live in a place you'd expect to see plenty and haven't seen a single one. I expect it will be quietly droppedhttps://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/volkswagen/t-r...
But, going back to the matter at hand, in years gone by I would have been less than complimentary about Convertible SUVs but the conclusion I’ve come to is that that no matter what, taking the option to drive with the roof down on a nice day improves everything
thewarlock said:
Nickbrapp said:
I can’t think of many Convertibles on sale these days, apart from a 4 series, A5, the new replacement of the E class and c class called the cle I think, and the MX5, and the fiat 500c which I’m not sure actually counts
There’s more in the supercar category obviously
Not many at all in sub 40k, especially compared to 15 years ago when every brand had a focus CC, astra twin top, etc Audi have killed of the A3 cab this time round,
And the TT, Z4, Fiat 124, Supra, Boxster, MINI, 8-series, Lexus LC, T-Roc and probably some others I'm not thinking of just now.There’s more in the supercar category obviously
Not many at all in sub 40k, especially compared to 15 years ago when every brand had a focus CC, astra twin top, etc Audi have killed of the A3 cab this time round,
Edited by Nickbrapp on Tuesday 15th February 11:52
McAndy said:
Roger Irrelevant said:
Yep. The following would suggest that T-Roc cabrio sales are actually doing ok:
https://jalopnik.com/the-weird-vw-t-roc-cabriolet-...
...and funnily enough the figures in that article also suggest that T-Roc cabrio sales are easily outstripping sales of all the cars made by both Lotus and Alpine put together. So I suppose that shows that driver-focussed lightweight cars are just rubbish niches that the vast majority don't want.
I am surprise by that. I do not see many in the UK. Nor Evoques.https://jalopnik.com/the-weird-vw-t-roc-cabriolet-...
...and funnily enough the figures in that article also suggest that T-Roc cabrio sales are easily outstripping sales of all the cars made by both Lotus and Alpine put together. So I suppose that shows that driver-focussed lightweight cars are just rubbish niches that the vast majority don't want.
Frimley111R said:
The Evoque got a lot of stick for being convertible but I wasn't sure if that was because it had a bit of a school run mum image and making it convertible made it even more so but now VW has a T-Roc convertible and I can't help thinking that its a niche that somehow manufacturers have missed. After all people love SUVs so a convertible one surely makes sense? And they aren't any more disagreeable than those stupid SUV coupes!?
Completely hideous springs to mind whenever I see one Edited by Frimley111R on Friday 23 August 11:37
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff