Passed driving test a month ago at the age of 28.. issues
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FinallyWhippin said:
Hi Guys,
Yes passed my test late on in life, a massive massive huge problem I have is the fear of loosing my license. My girlfriend who has been driving 10+ is pretty much sick of me, going on about speed cameras. The other day I refused to drive somewhere due to there being too many speed cameras and this sent her on a wild rant. I actually plucked up the courage yesterday to drive down a road where theres a big yellow speed camera, but going passed it I was damn nervous even though I was doing like 25mph passed it and it was a 30 road.
Now I get that a simple solution to this is to not speed (lol) however there are times when I mistakenley drive 1-2 or even 3mph over by accident then when I realise this I instantly drop down. I then spend my time worrying if for those brief seconds I somehow got caught by a camera and this worries me for ages, even now I am debaiting if I was caught this week (even though I have no recolection of being over the limit). I usually drive under the limit if I'm honest, so I'll do like 28 in a 30 never really spot on 30 as its not hard to go from 30-31 mistakenly so to be safe I just stay at 28.
I was not aware of all these precautiouns prior to driving my own car (maybe because I had the impression if I was speeding in my instructors car it would automatically be is fault), I did not know half the time I would need to watch out for all these cameras, it just never really occured to me until the license was in my hand, and if I'm honest I always thought it was 12 points to lose your license regardless of whether you are a new driver or not, not frigging 6 which can be accumilated from just two speeding tickets.
What I want to know is, whether there is actually any tollerance specifically on mobile speed cameras as I just think it would be so unreasonable to get a NIP for 31/32mph in a 30, if this is the case then it seems very very shady as they must make ridiculous amounts of money from this.
Yes passed my test late on in life, a massive massive huge problem I have is the fear of loosing my license. My girlfriend who has been driving 10+ is pretty much sick of me, going on about speed cameras. The other day I refused to drive somewhere due to there being too many speed cameras and this sent her on a wild rant. I actually plucked up the courage yesterday to drive down a road where theres a big yellow speed camera, but going passed it I was damn nervous even though I was doing like 25mph passed it and it was a 30 road.
Now I get that a simple solution to this is to not speed (lol) however there are times when I mistakenley drive 1-2 or even 3mph over by accident then when I realise this I instantly drop down. I then spend my time worrying if for those brief seconds I somehow got caught by a camera and this worries me for ages, even now I am debaiting if I was caught this week (even though I have no recolection of being over the limit). I usually drive under the limit if I'm honest, so I'll do like 28 in a 30 never really spot on 30 as its not hard to go from 30-31 mistakenly so to be safe I just stay at 28.
I was not aware of all these precautiouns prior to driving my own car (maybe because I had the impression if I was speeding in my instructors car it would automatically be is fault), I did not know half the time I would need to watch out for all these cameras, it just never really occured to me until the license was in my hand, and if I'm honest I always thought it was 12 points to lose your license regardless of whether you are a new driver or not, not frigging 6 which can be accumilated from just two speeding tickets.
What I want to know is, whether there is actually any tollerance specifically on mobile speed cameras as I just think it would be so unreasonable to get a NIP for 31/32mph in a 30, if this is the case then it seems very very shady as they must make ridiculous amounts of money from this.
OP sounds very much like my friend who's similar, albeit he's 22, not 28.
He has anxiety & depression, and gets VERY worked up over whether or not he has been caught speeding - so much so that it'll stay on his mind for weeks after, even when its blatantly obvious (to me, a passenger) that he wasn't speeding.
It doesn't help that his observation and awareness skills are severely lacking, but it doesn't seem like you're in that scenario.
This is going to sound patrionising, but I honestly recommend breathing exercises - that or maybe some CBT.
He has anxiety & depression, and gets VERY worked up over whether or not he has been caught speeding - so much so that it'll stay on his mind for weeks after, even when its blatantly obvious (to me, a passenger) that he wasn't speeding.
It doesn't help that his observation and awareness skills are severely lacking, but it doesn't seem like you're in that scenario.
This is going to sound patrionising, but I honestly recommend breathing exercises - that or maybe some CBT.
FinallyWhippin said:
am not hesitant atall when driving, in all honesty I have been told I am an excellent driver by many people. I would out drive you any day of the week to be fair.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who's lost all sympathy for you now. I hope you lose your licence and your girlfriend. And I hope the postman bums your dog. As people have already said...there are plenty of apps which ping when you're breaking the speed limit.
I would recommend 'Here Navigation' which was originally developed by Nokia...it can work off-line via downloaded maps and you can set it to chime whenever you go over the limit and also warn of speed cameras. It is available for Apple and Android, and completely free and free from adverts.
I suggest you close out this thread having been advised all help available to you, otherwise people will just keep taking the piss.
Oh and...FFS grow a pair before your girl finds a real Man! - Seriously.
I would recommend 'Here Navigation' which was originally developed by Nokia...it can work off-line via downloaded maps and you can set it to chime whenever you go over the limit and also warn of speed cameras. It is available for Apple and Android, and completely free and free from adverts.
I suggest you close out this thread having been advised all help available to you, otherwise people will just keep taking the piss.
Oh and...FFS grow a pair before your girl finds a real Man! - Seriously.
Edited by Dr Doofenshmirtz on Tuesday 27th August 10:42
Triumph Man said:
FinallyWhippin said:
Hi Guys,
Yes passed my test late on in life, a massive massive huge problem I have is the fear of loosing my license. My girlfriend who has been driving 10+ is pretty much sick of me, going on about speed cameras. The other day I refused to drive somewhere due to there being too many speed cameras and this sent her on a wild rant. I actually plucked up the courage yesterday to drive down a road where theres a big yellow speed camera, but going passed it I was damn nervous even though I was doing like 25mph passed it and it was a 30 road.
Now I get that a simple solution to this is to not speed (lol) however there are times when I mistakenley drive 1-2 or even 3mph over by accident then when I realise this I instantly drop down. I then spend my time worrying if for those brief seconds I somehow got caught by a camera and this worries me for ages, even now I am debaiting if I was caught this week (even though I have no recolection of being over the limit). I usually drive under the limit if I'm honest, so I'll do like 28 in a 30 never really spot on 30 as its not hard to go from 30-31 mistakenly so to be safe I just stay at 28.
I was not aware of all these precautiouns prior to driving my own car (maybe because I had the impression if I was speeding in my instructors car it would automatically be is fault), I did not know half the time I would need to watch out for all these cameras, it just never really occured to me until the license was in my hand, and if I'm honest I always thought it was 12 points to lose your license regardless of whether you are a new driver or not, not frigging 6 which can be accumilated from just two speeding tickets.
What I want to know is, whether there is actually any tollerance specifically on mobile speed cameras as I just think it would be so unreasonable to get a NIP for 31/32mph in a 30, if this is the case then it seems very very shady as they must make ridiculous amounts of money from this.
Yes passed my test late on in life, a massive massive huge problem I have is the fear of loosing my license. My girlfriend who has been driving 10+ is pretty much sick of me, going on about speed cameras. The other day I refused to drive somewhere due to there being too many speed cameras and this sent her on a wild rant. I actually plucked up the courage yesterday to drive down a road where theres a big yellow speed camera, but going passed it I was damn nervous even though I was doing like 25mph passed it and it was a 30 road.
Now I get that a simple solution to this is to not speed (lol) however there are times when I mistakenley drive 1-2 or even 3mph over by accident then when I realise this I instantly drop down. I then spend my time worrying if for those brief seconds I somehow got caught by a camera and this worries me for ages, even now I am debaiting if I was caught this week (even though I have no recolection of being over the limit). I usually drive under the limit if I'm honest, so I'll do like 28 in a 30 never really spot on 30 as its not hard to go from 30-31 mistakenly so to be safe I just stay at 28.
I was not aware of all these precautiouns prior to driving my own car (maybe because I had the impression if I was speeding in my instructors car it would automatically be is fault), I did not know half the time I would need to watch out for all these cameras, it just never really occured to me until the license was in my hand, and if I'm honest I always thought it was 12 points to lose your license regardless of whether you are a new driver or not, not frigging 6 which can be accumilated from just two speeding tickets.
What I want to know is, whether there is actually any tollerance specifically on mobile speed cameras as I just think it would be so unreasonable to get a NIP for 31/32mph in a 30, if this is the case then it seems very very shady as they must make ridiculous amounts of money from this.
FinallyWhippin said:
ZOLLAR said:
This has to be a joke.
Interested in why you think I'm joking? I'm not joking in the slightest, I guess the fact it took me 4 attempts to pass makes the thought of having to do it again frightening. Seriously, though, if you are in a static of blind panic about this, maybe driving a car just isn't for you.
This 2 year probation period has definitely changed things. Many parents and kids try to time the passing of the test with a period of not needing to drive, to lessen the risk of hitting the 6 points. Passing before going off to uni, that sort of thing
My kids learnt to drive at 17, even though neither of them wanted to or were in any way interested, because they didn't need to drive. In the first 2 years, I think each of them wouldn't have driven a car more than half a dozen times each.
They've now been driving 6 & 4 years. My eldest borrows the car about once a month to go somewhere, the youngest less than that. We're in London and driving is more hassle than it's worth. They've both got annual Oyster cars for work so leisure travel is free and much easier on the bus/tube. No parking hassles.
Most of their mates are the same. I think, in modern parlance, cars are lame and for losers.
My kids learnt to drive at 17, even though neither of them wanted to or were in any way interested, because they didn't need to drive. In the first 2 years, I think each of them wouldn't have driven a car more than half a dozen times each.
They've now been driving 6 & 4 years. My eldest borrows the car about once a month to go somewhere, the youngest less than that. We're in London and driving is more hassle than it's worth. They've both got annual Oyster cars for work so leisure travel is free and much easier on the bus/tube. No parking hassles.
Most of their mates are the same. I think, in modern parlance, cars are lame and for losers.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Most of their mates are the same. I think, in modern parlance, cars are lame and for losers.
A lot of young people think that and the anti car brigade see it as a triumph. However, a lot of people are passing their tests at around 30 years old. They want to start families and either move away from their parents or away from their rented flats to bigger houses in the suburbs. Their commutes are further, they have more stuff to carry and hopping on and off public transport no longer meets their needs. A car becomes a necessity. The problem is, because it's a necessity rather than a desire, there's little will to take pride in driving properly or looking after the car properly, so a lot of these people are driving badly in shoddy cars.
fiju said:
One must wonder who really wears the trousers in this relationship?
But in all seriousness, I think you should stay off the road. If you have no natural ability to drive, then you'll only just f
k everyone else off. If you're driving around below the speed limit because you're 'scared', then you have no business driving. Just why did you wait until you were 28 to start driving?
Also what sort of a woman goes out with a guy who can't drive? You'll probably find your relationship goes down the pan sharpish due to her putting up with your lack of testosterone for too long. The straw that broke the camels back as they say...
Savage!!!😂😂😂But in all seriousness, I think you should stay off the road. If you have no natural ability to drive, then you'll only just f
k everyone else off. If you're driving around below the speed limit because you're 'scared', then you have no business driving. Just why did you wait until you were 28 to start driving? Also what sort of a woman goes out with a guy who can't drive? You'll probably find your relationship goes down the pan sharpish due to her putting up with your lack of testosterone for too long. The straw that broke the camels back as they say...
But true.
FinallyWhippin said:
am not hesitant atall when driving, in all honesty I have been told I am an excellent driver by many people. I would out drive you any day of the week to be fair.
Of course you would petal! Let me know when you’ve put on your big boy pants, stopped being a precious little flower and you can gladly show me how to pedal! 👌🏻
PHuzzy said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
PHuzzy said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Christ, I've read some utter bks on this forum over the years, but this is right up there. Complete and utter st. And I say that having passed 1st time aged 17.
I don't see any countering points there though... Tell me why it's bks on this forum over the years, but this is right up there. Complete and utter st. And I say that having passed 1st time aged 17. ks.A friend of ours passed a few years back aged 49. Her first car was an Audi A4 3.0 cabriolet. Her insurance premium was about £500. A 20 year old with a full licence for 3 years would be paying 3 times that. There's a reason for that.
So the insurance evidence, based on millions of drivers, appears to contradict your beliefs. What evidence can you point to back up your theory.
Neither of which has anything to do with how good a driver someone is.
It's cheaper for her because statistically less 49 year olds have crashes than 20 year olds, there are still terrible drivers in both age ranges but drastically it'll lower with age and experience, new drivers around the age of 20 are far more numerous than new drivers at 49 so the likelihood of being statistically more likely to crash is obvious at a younger age.
There are numerous studies and published papers that link interest to skill level and show that the more interest shown in something, the more likely you are to be better at it.
Given most people's thoughts on the poor quality of drivers we have on our roads and the fact that the driving test pass percentage hasn't been above 50% in the last 10+ years when it's a realitvely easy test that requires not a vast amount of skill to pass and doesn't prepare drivers for the real world, I'd say if it takes multiple attempts, you're very unlikely to be a good driver.
Baldchap said:
PHuzzy said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
PHuzzy said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Christ, I've read some utter bks on this forum over the years, but this is right up there. Complete and utter st. And I say that having passed 1st time aged 17.
I don't see any countering points there though... Tell me why it's bks on this forum over the years, but this is right up there. Complete and utter st. And I say that having passed 1st time aged 17. ks.A friend of ours passed a few years back aged 49. Her first car was an Audi A4 3.0 cabriolet. Her insurance premium was about £500. A 20 year old with a full licence for 3 years would be paying 3 times that. There's a reason for that.
So the insurance evidence, based on millions of drivers, appears to contradict your beliefs. What evidence can you point to back up your theory.
Neither of which has anything to do with how good a driver someone is.
It's cheaper for her because statistically less 49 year olds have crashes than 20 year olds, there are still terrible drivers in both age ranges but drastically it'll lower with age and experience, new drivers around the age of 20 are far more numerous than new drivers at 49 so the likelihood of being statistically more likely to crash is obvious at a younger age.
There are numerous studies and published papers that link interest to skill level and show that the more interest shown in something, the more likely you are to be better at it.
Given most people's thoughts on the poor quality of drivers we have on our roads and the fact that the driving test pass percentage hasn't been above 50% in the last 10+ years when it's a realitvely easy test that requires not a vast amount of skill to pass and doesn't prepare drivers for the real world, I'd say if it takes multiple attempts, you're very unlikely to be a good driver.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Baldchap said:
PHuzzy said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
PHuzzy said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Christ, I've read some utter bks on this forum over the years, but this is right up there. Complete and utter st. And I say that having passed 1st time aged 17.
I don't see any countering points there though... Tell me why it's bks on this forum over the years, but this is right up there. Complete and utter st. And I say that having passed 1st time aged 17. ks.A friend of ours passed a few years back aged 49. Her first car was an Audi A4 3.0 cabriolet. Her insurance premium was about £500. A 20 year old with a full licence for 3 years would be paying 3 times that. There's a reason for that.
So the insurance evidence, based on millions of drivers, appears to contradict your beliefs. What evidence can you point to back up your theory.
Neither of which has anything to do with how good a driver someone is.
It's cheaper for her because statistically less 49 year olds have crashes than 20 year olds, there are still terrible drivers in both age ranges but drastically it'll lower with age and experience, new drivers around the age of 20 are far more numerous than new drivers at 49 so the likelihood of being statistically more likely to crash is obvious at a younger age.
There are numerous studies and published papers that link interest to skill level and show that the more interest shown in something, the more likely you are to be better at it.
Given most people's thoughts on the poor quality of drivers we have on our roads and the fact that the driving test pass percentage hasn't been above 50% in the last 10+ years when it's a realitvely easy test that requires not a vast amount of skill to pass and doesn't prepare drivers for the real world, I'd say if it takes multiple attempts, you're very unlikely to be a good driver.
If I were to fail my bike test/IaM/race licence 3 times, I'd think hmmm this clearly isn't for me.
As it is, I don't plan on riding a bike on the road, being an 'advanced' driver or racing (due to not having the money) so I wouldn't class myself as being good at any of those 3.
I can drive a car on the road relatively well though and I can also read and digest posts correctly so I'm doing better than some.
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