Passed driving test a month ago at the age of 28.. issues
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This reminds me of a local radio interview I heard many many years ago. It went like this
Interviewer : What are you're opinions on the new speed camera on so and so street?
interviewee : I don't mind, I have a fool proof way of never paying a speeding fine.
Interviewer : (rather excited by this revelation) How do you manage that?
interviewee : I never break the speed limit.
Interviewer : What are you're opinions on the new speed camera on so and so street?
interviewee : I don't mind, I have a fool proof way of never paying a speeding fine.
Interviewer : (rather excited by this revelation) How do you manage that?
interviewee : I never break the speed limit.
It’s 3 points a go and unless it’s well over, you get the offer of a speed awareness course instead.
In the Op’s case I think this would be very useful further education.
In any case, a few months down the line and no brown envelopes, it won’t appear to be the mine field it currently does.
In the Op’s case I think this would be very useful further education.
In any case, a few months down the line and no brown envelopes, it won’t appear to be the mine field it currently does.
Leptons said:
Welcome to driving in 2019. If it’s any consolation I’d been driving for 15 years (speeding every day) before becoming a cropper for doing 79mph on the A1M.
To be honest, if you get caught by a big yellow box at the side of the road you deserve it. It’s the sneaky b
d Mobile cameras you need to worry about. For this I recommend using “WAZE” app.
Tolerances vary but generally you are allowed 10%
Worst case scenario you lose your license and pass your test again...
It’s the same sneaky bTo be honest, if you get caught by a big yellow box at the side of the road you deserve it. It’s the sneaky b
d Mobile cameras you need to worry about. For this I recommend using “WAZE” app.Tolerances vary but generally you are allowed 10%
Worst case scenario you lose your license and pass your test again...
d mobile cameras that catch the idiots who think that driving at 60 mph plus through the 30 mph limit in our village is absolutely fine. Happy for their sneakiness to continue....In my opinion nervousness on roads can cause more of a hazard than 'over-confident' drivers. The best way to get over this is spend more time on the roads, get a feel for where static/average speed cameras are and roll on through at the speed limit. Do it alone, you shoudn't need someone there to point out the 'big yellow cameras'.
The other side of my opinion is 4 attempts? 28? Typing out a post like that? I wouldn't want to be behind you on a road given the fact you'd be horsing on the anchors at every large yellow box you see.
Bite the bullet, do the driving and learn lessons. No easier way to get past issues than that (other than seeking some mental advice as said by others, that's a genuine road to go down (as long as it doesnt have speed camers's) based on your posting mentality)..
The other side of my opinion is 4 attempts? 28? Typing out a post like that? I wouldn't want to be behind you on a road given the fact you'd be horsing on the anchors at every large yellow box you see.
Bite the bullet, do the driving and learn lessons. No easier way to get past issues than that (other than seeking some mental advice as said by others, that's a genuine road to go down (as long as it doesnt have speed camers's) based on your posting mentality)..
PHuzzy said:
new drivers around the age of 20 are far more numerous than new drivers at 49 so the likelihood of being statistically more likely to crash is obvious at a younger age.
It doesn't work like that, they're not stupid. Yes, there are more new young drivers than new middle age drivers, but they'll have figures on the percentage chances of that group claiming. If your theory was right, teenagers with Ferraris would get cheap insurance because there are so few of them that in the last year, maybe only one or two teenagers have crashed a Ferrari. Maybe none at all. Bottom line is, if the number of attempts you took to pass your test made any significant difference to skill levels and likelihood of claiming, insurers would ask, and they don't.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
PHuzzy said:
new drivers around the age of 20 are far more numerous than new drivers at 49 so the likelihood of being statistically more likely to crash is obvious at a younger age.
It doesn't work like that, they're not stupid. Yes, there are more new young drivers than new middle age drivers, but they'll have figures on the percentage chances of that group claiming. If your theory was right, teenagers with Ferraris would get cheap insurance because there are so few of them that in the last year, maybe only one or two teenagers have crashed a Ferrari. Maybe none at all. Bottom line is, if the number of attempts you took to pass your test made any significant difference to skill levels and likelihood of claiming, insurers would ask, and they don't.
NCB doesn't equal good driver so what metrics can they look at, insurance is all statistical risk, Ferraris have more risk than hatchbacks, 20 year old drivers present more of a risk than 49 year olds... Combine them together and what do you get?
With regard to the 4 fails, the clue is in the name, it's a test, if you're not very good, you fail like all other tests.
If you're really not very good, you fail multiple times... I personally believe if you're not very good at something you probably shouldn't be doing it.
So your b
ks claim at the start still hasn't been proven, it's all opinion based from both of us so we'll agree to disagree.If OP is now frightened of the possibility of retaking his test to the extent that it makes him so skittish around speed cameras that he is making this post, it was probably nerves that made him fail the first few times, or at least may have been a contributory factor.
OP, look around at all the other drivers out there. Very few of them are nervous about driving. You are one of a few. You may think you're nervous for perfectly rational reasons, but people are mostly rational, know the speed limits, and just get on with it without worrying themselves into a hole.
If you don't think your driving is good enough that you can keep your speed at legal levels, take a few advanced lessons. If it's not your driving, but purely your mental state about it, then maybe talk to someone about it. Mental anguish about something everyone else sees as trivial isn't normal.
If you don't want to talk to someone, ask yourself if driving is so important to you that you want to continue to let yourself get into this state?
OP, look around at all the other drivers out there. Very few of them are nervous about driving. You are one of a few. You may think you're nervous for perfectly rational reasons, but people are mostly rational, know the speed limits, and just get on with it without worrying themselves into a hole.
If you don't think your driving is good enough that you can keep your speed at legal levels, take a few advanced lessons. If it's not your driving, but purely your mental state about it, then maybe talk to someone about it. Mental anguish about something everyone else sees as trivial isn't normal.
If you don't want to talk to someone, ask yourself if driving is so important to you that you want to continue to let yourself get into this state?
OP, get waze wase whatever it's called, I have no direct experience but people say it's great for active route planning ie adjusting for traffic etc, but will also warn of cameras etc. So generally useful and a safe guard.
Sometimes going faster will help! If you are in a queue of traffic the one at the front is in danger most. I bet when you drive you are nearly always the lead car, rarely following a stream of others?
Hypothetical but say you are doing that 28mph in a 30 then lots of times I bet you have a queue behind you? If you then feel a bit in the way and creep up to 35-6 it's you not the 5-10 cars behind you that would probably go even faster that will get caught!
Try and slot in with the masses, just never be the fastest one out there (not much danger of that me thinks!) You can always get unlucky but knowing the locations of fixed cameras is a huge start, mobile ones are rarer and are nearly always there to catch the top ten percentile, which again you are not?
From what I've read I can't see you getting more than a 3 point fine so try and relax, especially once your 2 years is up, best of luck!
Sometimes going faster will help! If you are in a queue of traffic the one at the front is in danger most. I bet when you drive you are nearly always the lead car, rarely following a stream of others?
Hypothetical but say you are doing that 28mph in a 30 then lots of times I bet you have a queue behind you? If you then feel a bit in the way and creep up to 35-6 it's you not the 5-10 cars behind you that would probably go even faster that will get caught!
Try and slot in with the masses, just never be the fastest one out there (not much danger of that me thinks!) You can always get unlucky but knowing the locations of fixed cameras is a huge start, mobile ones are rarer and are nearly always there to catch the top ten percentile, which again you are not?
From what I've read I can't see you getting more than a 3 point fine so try and relax, especially once your 2 years is up, best of luck!
You sound like you’d be an incredibly nervous and hesitant driving, especially if you refuse to drive somewhere due to having speed cameras on the route. I suggest a strong dose of man up and get on with it or surrender your license.
I’m 27, will have been on the road 11years in January. Covering on average 20k a year (the past two years have been more like 40k) and I’ve been caught once, by a mobile camera. I wouldn’t say I’m a overly fast driver, but do like to make progress where safe and possible..unless you are massively unobservant you’ll be fine. Get on with it chap, before your mrs makes you carry her handbag.
I’m 27, will have been on the road 11years in January. Covering on average 20k a year (the past two years have been more like 40k) and I’ve been caught once, by a mobile camera. I wouldn’t say I’m a overly fast driver, but do like to make progress where safe and possible..unless you are massively unobservant you’ll be fine. Get on with it chap, before your mrs makes you carry her handbag.
FinallyWhippin said:
My girlfriend who has been driving 10+ is pretty much sick of me, going on about speed cameras. The other day I refused to drive somewhere due to there being too many speed cameras and this sent her on a wild rant.
One must wonder who really wears the trousers in this relationship?But in all seriousness, I think you should stay off the road. If you have no natural ability to drive, then you'll only just f
k everyone else off. If you're driving around below the speed limit because you're 'scared', then you have no business driving. Just why did you wait until you were 28 to start driving? Also what sort of a woman goes out with a guy who can't drive? You'll probably find your relationship goes down the pan sharpish due to her putting up with your lack of testosterone for too long. The straw that broke the camels back as they say...
TwigtheWonderkid said:
No, but it does equal fault claim free driver, which is a pretty good start.
Yeah and thats great until someone hits your parked car and doesn't leave a note, must mean you're a worse driver than those who are oblivious to what's happening around them and cause other people to take avoiding action due to their piss poor manoeuvres.
MattCharlton91 said:
You sound like you’d be an incredibly nervous and hesitant driving, especially if you refuse to drive somewhere due to having speed cameras on the route. I suggest a strong dose of man up and get on with it or surrender your license.
I’m 27, will have been on the road 11years in January. Covering on average 20k a year (the past two years have been more like 40k) and I’ve been caught once, by a mobile camera. I wouldn’t say I’m a overly fast driver, but do like to make progress where safe and possible..unless you are massively unobservant you’ll be fine. Get on with it chap, before your mrs makes you carry her handbag.
I am not hesitant atall when driving, in all honesty I have been told I am an excellent driver by many people. I would out drive you any day of the week to be fair.I’m 27, will have been on the road 11years in January. Covering on average 20k a year (the past two years have been more like 40k) and I’ve been caught once, by a mobile camera. I wouldn’t say I’m a overly fast driver, but do like to make progress where safe and possible..unless you are massively unobservant you’ll be fine. Get on with it chap, before your mrs makes you carry her handbag.
bobtail4x4 said:
so move to north yorkshire, we dont have any fixed cameras,
if you dont see the cop in hi vis or the van with CAMERA on the back, you deserve to get nicked.
I’ve seen numerous locations in NY where the tossers ‘hide’ near bends or over the brow of a hill so you don’t see them until it’s too late. if you dont see the cop in hi vis or the van with CAMERA on the back, you deserve to get nicked.
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