RE: Litchfield adds 200hp to 992 Carrera 911
Discussion
k me.
How on earth is a 911 a sleeper!?!? It's hardly a humdrum looking 5 series estate car with 600bhp is it!?fred bloggs said:
untakenname said:
Porsche imo as they are treating their customers as mugs.
Is that new for a german car company ?? Secondly, does it have the same longevity, and tolerance to climate and not so good fuels in other countries?
We know Porsche spend a -lot- of money testing their cars around the world and for millions of miles, it's perhaps not too fair to call them out on giving you a map that works in all situations and meets their emission requirements.
untakenname said:
poor form from Porsche imo as they are treating their customers as mugs.
Are they really? Would the car still pass the relevant emissions tests with this map? Are all the rest of the components on the car well engineered enough to last with this kind of power over the long term? phil4 said:
Are they though? Firstly the article points out the emissions problem... something which Porsche need to deal with.
Secondly, does it have the same longevity, and tolerance to climate and not so good fuels in other countries?
We know Porsche spend a -lot- of money testing their cars around the world and for millions of miles, it's perhaps not too fair to call them out on giving you a map that works in all situations and meets their emission requirements.
And are wary having experienced one or two engine issues over the years..Secondly, does it have the same longevity, and tolerance to climate and not so good fuels in other countries?
We know Porsche spend a -lot- of money testing their cars around the world and for millions of miles, it's perhaps not too fair to call them out on giving you a map that works in all situations and meets their emission requirements.
I know people can do whatever they like with their cars and money, but to me this seems almost too big an increase just from a remap. As other have mentioned, you would be pushing another 50% of power through the entire drivetrain. Are we really supposed to think that Porsche have built in that level of tolerance to the components? Would be some serious over-engineering if so.
I know that Litchfield are a good company and will effectively take over the warranty on the car, but I think I'm just a little too much of an 'over thinker' for this level of mod.
I know that Litchfield are a good company and will effectively take over the warranty on the car, but I think I'm just a little too much of an 'over thinker' for this level of mod.
RumbleOfThunder said:
Actually looking at said graph, the "crossover" for power and torque doesn't seem to occur until 5200? That is a dramatic change to the characteristic of the engine, not one I'd probably fancy.
LOL, all bhp/torque curves cross at 5,252. You should do some research into how BHP and Torque are related.
Two Nissan related comments come to mind...
Almost every Skyline (R33 or R34) left the showroom with 280bhp but you'd be hard pushed to find one with less than 400bhp on the road. Will the same happen here?
Nissan did something with the 350z to prevent remaps or mods from impacting the performance of the vehicle. Didn't seem to matter what people did, it still reported the same power output. I think people found ways around it eventually but it required serious changes, not just a remap. Have Lichfield announced this mod too early and could Porsche do the same to throw a spanner in the works?
Almost every Skyline (R33 or R34) left the showroom with 280bhp but you'd be hard pushed to find one with less than 400bhp on the road. Will the same happen here?
Nissan did something with the 350z to prevent remaps or mods from impacting the performance of the vehicle. Didn't seem to matter what people did, it still reported the same power output. I think people found ways around it eventually but it required serious changes, not just a remap. Have Lichfield announced this mod too early and could Porsche do the same to throw a spanner in the works?
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