Have you stopped modifying your car power wise.
Discussion
Weekendrebuild said:
Rod200SX said:
I bought my 335i last year with a JB4 piggyback and it was running around 370hp/390hp, had some electrical issues so I removed the JB4. Ran without it for a couple weeks at the standard 306 or whatever it is, it wasn't slow but...
After two weeks I gave it a flash from another tuner, should be around 380BHP now which is more than suffice for the majority of the time (especially with an open diff) but I'm finding myself getting accustom to the power, looking at fitting an upgraded intercooler which should allow me to go up to around 420bhp. It's a slippery slope!
I think the biggest thing that causes the constant upgrades is the ease of it. On an NA car, you're typically limited by money to get more power. but with turbo cars, it's quite often a case of "ooh, well I'm happy now but for £150 I can buy X part which will allow me to go up an extra 25hp safely, then once i've done that X is only £350 which will let me go up 50hp". Man maths in action
After two weeks I gave it a flash from another tuner, should be around 380BHP now which is more than suffice for the majority of the time (especially with an open diff) but I'm finding myself getting accustom to the power, looking at fitting an upgraded intercooler which should allow me to go up to around 420bhp. It's a slippery slope!
I think the biggest thing that causes the constant upgrades is the ease of it. On an NA car, you're typically limited by money to get more power. but with turbo cars, it's quite often a case of "ooh, well I'm happy now but for £150 I can buy X part which will allow me to go up an extra 25hp safely, then once i've done that X is only £350 which will let me go up 50hp". Man maths in action
Suppose it depends how you drive but the closer you get to 400bhp the quicker you find the limits of the rods an pistons on these .. little warning
lots of people daily driving with 500-600HP. So long as you keep on top of maintenance (Read, replacing every bloody other accessory on the engine) they are fairly reliable. Lots of people fitting single turbos these days on them.
To be fair, limiting factor for adding more power at the moment is just putting it down. hopefully get an LSD and some suspension bits next
I had a Fiesta ST too with about the same power as ours. Fabuous car, but I always thought about the hybrid turbo and 300bhp route, you get used to circa 230bhp very quickly and on A roads it's never enough.
I had an Evo that was just shy of 600bhp. Although I only drove it once or twice a week in summer months, after about half an hour you got used to it and you did start to think another 100bhp would be nice. If I had kept it then I propably would have changed the turbo from a GT30 to 35.
My current hack was mapped before I bought it... goes well, Iove the X35d engines, strangely driving it as a daily I fell like the power is adequate and have no intention of modifying it for further power gain.
I had an Evo that was just shy of 600bhp. Although I only drove it once or twice a week in summer months, after about half an hour you got used to it and you did start to think another 100bhp would be nice. If I had kept it then I propably would have changed the turbo from a GT30 to 35.
My current hack was mapped before I bought it... goes well, Iove the X35d engines, strangely driving it as a daily I fell like the power is adequate and have no intention of modifying it for further power gain.
Funky Squirrel said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
i stopped modding cars 20 years ago when i worked out it was cheaper and less hassle to buy a car with the power i wanted
This.neil1jnr said:
I had a Fiesta ST too with about the same power as ours. Fabuous car, but I always thought about the hybrid turbo and 300bhp route, you get used to circa 230bhp very quickly and on A roads it's never enough.
I had an Evo that was just shy of 600bhp. Although I only drove it once or twice a week in summer months, after about half an hour you got used to it and you did start to think another 100bhp would be nice. If I had kept it then I propably would have changed the turbo from a GT30 to 35.
My current hack was mapped before I bought it... goes well, Iove the X35d engines, strangely driving it as a daily I fell like the power is adequate and have no intention of modifying it for further power gain.
Shouldn't that be a Gallo 12 to a Gallo 24?I had an Evo that was just shy of 600bhp. Although I only drove it once or twice a week in summer months, after about half an hour you got used to it and you did start to think another 100bhp would be nice. If I had kept it then I propably would have changed the turbo from a GT30 to 35.
My current hack was mapped before I bought it... goes well, Iove the X35d engines, strangely driving it as a daily I fell like the power is adequate and have no intention of modifying it for further power gain.
Interesting subject - I think if you up the power, it feels great but then you get used to it and it becomes the norm. so you crave a bit more, and so on...
My S5 is around 410 bhp ish and I wouldnt complain at having more shove!
In reality, on our busy public roads, anything more than say a Golf GTI is a little pointless. 95% of the time you just cant use it. Feels good when you get one of those rare blasts though!
I really want to have a crack of an Up! GTI and see what something really chuckable but low powered is like. Go the opposite way!
My S5 is around 410 bhp ish and I wouldnt complain at having more shove!
In reality, on our busy public roads, anything more than say a Golf GTI is a little pointless. 95% of the time you just cant use it. Feels good when you get one of those rare blasts though!
I really want to have a crack of an Up! GTI and see what something really chuckable but low powered is like. Go the opposite way!
ghost83 said:
I’ve stopped modifying full stop! Realised how much money was wasted!
Rather spend it on the house instead now
Plus you can’t really enjoy it these days with speed camera vans and plod round every other corner
Personally to me that would be a sad point in life to reach. Rather spend it on the house instead now
Plus you can’t really enjoy it these days with speed camera vans and plod round every other corner
I've modified every car I've owned so far in some way or another and I don't ever see myself stopping unless I got in to a position to spend my money with Singer, Speedkore, etc who will build me a car exactly as I want it down to whether I want zinc plated or titanium bolts.
CraigJ said:
Almost, have about another 60bhp to find yet to get me to 800BHP.
Long tube headers and high flow cats should get me there. New Injectors have just arrived so the fueling is sorted.
Once i hit 800bhp i will have finished and sell the car on to fund my next project.
Supercharged Mustang guy?Long tube headers and high flow cats should get me there. New Injectors have just arrived so the fueling is sorted.
Once i hit 800bhp i will have finished and sell the car on to fund my next project.
Pica-Pica said:
Funky Squirrel said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
i stopped modding cars 20 years ago when i worked out it was cheaper and less hassle to buy a car with the power i wanted
This.My cars are all bloody brilliant to drive and long term keepers. And I know there is very little if anything new that would better them.
I've modded just about every car I've owned.
Currently, my wife has a modded V70 2.4 petrol turbo, BSR remap, lowered and uprated brakes, it's a great car to drive and utterly reliable despite the remap being done over 10 years ago.
My Jag' is running over 600 bhp and is truly rapid, great fun too.
It's in the blood I reckon.
Currently, my wife has a modded V70 2.4 petrol turbo, BSR remap, lowered and uprated brakes, it's a great car to drive and utterly reliable despite the remap being done over 10 years ago.
My Jag' is running over 600 bhp and is truly rapid, great fun too.
It's in the blood I reckon.
I own a Mark 7 Golf GTI, which produces 220bhp as standard and has a DSG 'box.
Life is simple - I can tick the "No" box to the question "Is the car modified in any way from the standard specification" when the annual insurance renewal comes around, and I've just extended the manufacturer's warranty, which also has an exclusion clause should there be any modification or deviation from standard spec.
I could easily have it remapped to 300bhp. Or I could buy a Golf R, which would give me 300bhp and a warranty.
I've modified several Golf and Scirocco GTI's in the past, and more than a few Beetles. Nowadays, the state of the roads, the draconian use of automated policing, the volume of traffic and the incompetence of other drivers means that for everyday use, it's hardly worth bothering.
Should I find myself on an interesting and deserted stretch of road, I can put the car into "Sport" mode and change gear with the paddles. Otherwise I just go with the flow, because most roads that I usually use in and around the New Forest have a blanket 40mph speed limit and there's very little to be gained and much to be lost otherwise.
Life is simple - I can tick the "No" box to the question "Is the car modified in any way from the standard specification" when the annual insurance renewal comes around, and I've just extended the manufacturer's warranty, which also has an exclusion clause should there be any modification or deviation from standard spec.
I could easily have it remapped to 300bhp. Or I could buy a Golf R, which would give me 300bhp and a warranty.
I've modified several Golf and Scirocco GTI's in the past, and more than a few Beetles. Nowadays, the state of the roads, the draconian use of automated policing, the volume of traffic and the incompetence of other drivers means that for everyday use, it's hardly worth bothering.
Should I find myself on an interesting and deserted stretch of road, I can put the car into "Sport" mode and change gear with the paddles. Otherwise I just go with the flow, because most roads that I usually use in and around the New Forest have a blanket 40mph speed limit and there's very little to be gained and much to be lost otherwise.
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