RE: Longtail 720S caught testing for the first time

[Dblue]

Leftfootwonder said:

vz-r_dave said:

Yeah a name they made associated with an actual longer car.... this is just a 720s with an expensive bodykit..... shame

Bang on.

What is the point of this exactly, except to fill yet another niche that doesn't need filling. Totally pointless.

How is this "bang on"???
The LT versions of these cars are substantially different in lots of ways , just as GT3s are different to regular Carreras.

Its a harder, faster more engaging version of the main Super Series platform, How is that in any way a "shame" or "pointless"

[MDL111]

PhantomPH said:

HM-2 said:

PhantomPH said:

Commenting here purely to point out that I clicked on the '720S for sale' link at the bottom of this article and the first in the list is a 2017 model that's now £150,000 less than list! What the ever-loving funk??!!!!

So I ask - which is these is true:

- The 720S is not very good and as such not worth the asking price when new.
- McLaren's optional extras prices are hilariously huge.
- The 720S is massively over-priced from new.
- McLarens are as desirable as herpes.
- McLarens are as reliable as the train network in winter.
- That particular car has been crashed at some point in it's life.
- The 720S is the absolute supercar bargain of the century when a couple of years old and you should buy one now with 0% depreciation to come over the next year or so.

- The advertisement is inaccurate and it's nowhere near £150k off list in reality.

Even if it's £100k depreciation, that's a fair chunk.

Mind you, it's absolutely gorgeous. Wish I was in a financial position to take a look at this one....: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

If it also had the cage and harnesses, that would be my perfect spec (well maybe with black stitching, but that is nitpicking). That is tempting

[Terminator X]

PhantomPH said:

HM-2 said:

PhantomPH said:

Commenting here purely to point out that I clicked on the '720S for sale' link at the bottom of this article and the first in the list is a 2017 model that's now £150,000 less than list! What the ever-loving funk??!!!!

So I ask - which is these is true:

- The 720S is not very good and as such not worth the asking price when new.
- McLaren's optional extras prices are hilariously huge.
- The 720S is massively over-priced from new.
- McLarens are as desirable as herpes.
- McLarens are as reliable as the train network in winter.
- That particular car has been crashed at some point in it's life.
- The 720S is the absolute supercar bargain of the century when a couple of years old and you should buy one now with 0% depreciation to come over the next year or so.

- The advertisement is inaccurate and it's nowhere near £150k off list in reality.

Even if it's £100k depreciation, that's a fair chunk.

Mind you, it's absolutely gorgeous. Wish I was in a financial position to take a look at this one....: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

If you buy a new car not production limited what do you expect to happen?

TX.

[Kosy]

I like a bit of debate / banter like the rest of us however if you don’t like the idea of this car (and other similar ones) then I do wonder why you are on a car enthusiast forum.

[Leftfootwonder]

Mafffew said:

Leftfootwonder said:

vz-r_dave said:

Yeah a name they made associated with an actual longer car.... this is just a 720s with an expensive bodykit..... shame

Bang on.

What is the point of this exactly, except to fill yet another niche that doesn't need filling. Totally pointless.

Have you seen the finished product? Have you got the full spec? Do share, otherwise you're making baseless claims.

The LT is a reference to the McLaren F1 LT which only had an LT, to my understanding, to make more slippery and achieve a higher top speed down longer straights when racing......which is totally pointless for a road car. The 720s is fast enough in a straight line on any track for the people who will buy these.

If they want to uprate it like Porsche with their GT cars, then they should call it GTR or something similar IMO. If the LT is fundamentally the same car as the 720s but it's too long to park outside the Savoy, which im sure 90% will, then it is pointless.

[E65Ross]

Leftfootwonder said:

Mafffew said:

Leftfootwonder said:

vz-r_dave said:

Yeah a name they made associated with an actual longer car.... this is just a 720s with an expensive bodykit..... shame

Bang on.

What is the point of this exactly, except to fill yet another niche that doesn't need filling. Totally pointless.

Have you seen the finished product? Have you got the full spec? Do share, otherwise you're making baseless claims.

The LT is a reference to the McLaren F1 LT which only had an LT, to my understanding, to make more slippery and achieve a higher top speed down longer straights when racing......which is totally pointless for a road car. The 720s is fast enough in a straight line on any track for the people who will buy these.

If they want to uprate it like Porsche with their GT cars, then they should call it GTR or something similar IMO. If the LT is fundamentally the same car as the 720s but it's too long to park outside the Savoy, which im sure 90% will, then it is pointless.

Who are you, a member of the name police?

"McLaren can't call their own product that, they should call it what I think it should be called"

I believe the GTR name has been taken, both as GT-R by Nissan, and as GTR by Mercedes, so I'm not sure if they could call it that. Besides, what's wrong with LT anyway? F1 LT = McLaren F1 with stuck on body kit which is longer. Not much difference to the newer cars in that sense is it

[LordOfTheManor]

I'm hoping for some extra bodywork to give it just that little bit meaner look...

[likesachange]

Wonder if they've toned the aero pack down on this LT variant purely to make sure it doesn't set faster lap times than the 750k Senna..

[Maldini35]

likesachange said:

Wonder if they've toned the aero pack down on this LT variant purely to make sure it doesn't set faster lap times than the 750k Senna..

As fast as the 720S is that really won’t be necessary.

Senna is in a different league

[Juno]

I think the 675LT was genius, to me it looked very different to the 650 and has different looking lines, very Le Mans if you get one with the roof scoop and fair enough to call it an LT

I’m not so convinced that the 600LT and the potential 750LT have gone far enough to justify the tag

I assume current 720 owners will be the ones to give it the thumbs up and whether it will be worth adding another circa £150k to their current 720 to make the upgrade!

As in a previous post some of the 720’s on sale are looking like cracking buys now

[jason61c]

why cover the numberplate? I'm guessing that PH were supplied with these as 'factory' shots?

[E65Ross]

Juno said:

I think the 675LT was genius, to me it looked very different to the 650 and has different looking lines, very Le Mans if you get one with the roof scoop and fair enough to call it an LT

I’m not so convinced that the 600LT and the potential 750LT have gone far enough to justify the tag

I assume current 720 owners will be the ones to give it the thumbs up and whether it will be worth adding another circa £150k to their current 720 to make the upgrade!

As in a previous post some of the 720’s on sale are looking like cracking buys now

I don't understand these sort of comments.... "I’m not so convinced that the 600LT and the potential 750LT have gone far enough to justify the tag"

So, the 600LT which is touted as being quite possibly the most exciting McLaren Automotive cars to drive doesn't justify the tag, and a car you don't know any actual details about also doesn't justify the tag? Is it not McLaren who determine whether it justifies the tag or not? What specifically is it about this new model that makes it unworthy of the LT name, yet the 675LT worthy? Because I'm not sure enough information has been released about it yet to make that decision?

[Juno]

E65Ross said:

Juno said:

I think the 675LT was genius, to me it looked very different to the 650 and has different looking lines, very Le Mans if you get one with the roof scoop and fair enough to call it an LT

I’m not so convinced that the 600LT and the potential 750LT have gone far enough to justify the tag

I assume current 720 owners will be the ones to give it the thumbs up and whether it will be worth adding another circa £150k to their current 720 to make the upgrade!

As in a previous post some of the 720’s on sale are looking like cracking buys now

I don't understand these sort of comments.... "I’m not so convinced that the 600LT and the potential 750LT have gone far enough to justify the tag"

So, the 600LT which is touted as being quite possibly the most exciting McLaren Automotive cars to drive doesn't justify the tag, and a car you don't know any actual details about also doesn't justify the tag? Is it not McLaren who determine whether it justifies the tag or not? What specifically is it about this new model that makes it unworthy of the LT name, yet the 675LT worthy? Because I'm not sure enough information has been released about it yet to make that decision?

If you read any of the above post it refers to the 675 looking more different eg more Le Mans racer to the 650 than the 600/750 looking different to the 570/720

Did you actually read any of it before sounding off

Do you need me to make it any clearer?

Just my opinion of course but I think people will want to see more of the difference in the flesh

We know it will go like stink for sure!

Edited by Juno on Friday 30th August 21:58

[PhantomPH]

MDL111 said:

PhantomPH said:

HM-2 said:

PhantomPH said:

Commenting here purely to point out that I clicked on the '720S for sale' link at the bottom of this article and the first in the list is a 2017 model that's now £150,000 less than list! What the ever-loving funk??!!!!

So I ask - which is these is true:

- The 720S is not very good and as such not worth the asking price when new.
- McLaren's optional extras prices are hilariously huge.
- The 720S is massively over-priced from new.
- McLarens are as desirable as herpes.
- McLarens are as reliable as the train network in winter.
- That particular car has been crashed at some point in it's life.
- The 720S is the absolute supercar bargain of the century when a couple of years old and you should buy one now with 0% depreciation to come over the next year or so.

- The advertisement is inaccurate and it's nowhere near £150k off list in reality.

Even if it's £100k depreciation, that's a fair chunk.

Mind you, it's absolutely gorgeous. Wish I was in a financial position to take a look at this one....: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

If it also had the cage and harnesses, that would be my perfect spec (well maybe with black stitching, but that is nitpicking). That is tempting

Well as someone who has to step down rather than step up recently (thank you VERY dry job market! ), all I can say is if you have the means, then get your rear end to that garage and take a look. It's a stunning machine. (Although TBF I was looking more at the £80-90k market, not the £150k one! Ha ha)

[mikey k]

vz-r_dave said:

deadscoob said:

So a 675lt was just a 650s with an expensive body kit?
Presumably the same with the 600lt over 5x0 too?
Lol

A power hike and some carbon does not justify the LT badge imo.... especially when you consider the history of it all. But yeah lol

As a 675 owner I agree with that.
The 675 is a completely different drive to a 650, it's a lot more than a bit more power and some carbon.
That said I do think the 600LT doesn't go far to differentiate from a 570.
This looks like it does even less
I have a slot for one of these but I'm far from sold on its looks so far.
Might just keep the 675 and buy something else to go along side.

[mikey k]

PhantomPH said:

Even if it's £100k depreciation, that's a fair chunk.

Mind you, it's absolutely gorgeous. Wish I was in a financial position to take a look at this one....: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Try finding a 18 month old Lambo, Ferrari etc with 13k miles on and check out the price.
720s are great cars, they do take a hit though, even more so with high miles.
That's a high spec car but not £300k high.
If it was a spider with those seats I'd take it.

[BVB]

Wow! Looks like the 12C.....and all models since. What's the bet it has the same engine too?

[Ray_Aber]

LT = looney tunes

LT = lunacy, targeted

LT = LongTail

LT = Lovingly tampered

You choose.

[E65Ross]

BVB said:

Wow! Looks like the 12C.....and all models since. What's the bet it has the same engine too?

Looks are subjective but it really looks very different to a 12C. Especially a P1 and a Senna too. It will also have an extra 25% more power too. The engine, whilst sharing some similarities, has evolved significantly over the years. Still doesn't sound great though, in my opinion. But to say they'll be the same engine is utter ignorance

[Maldini35]

BVB said:

Wow! Looks like the 12C.....and all models since. What's the bet it has the same engine too?

And it will be quicker than the equivalent Ferrari again too