The ask an MOT tester thread

The ask an MOT tester thread

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Gilhooligan

2,214 posts

145 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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mk1coopers said:
One lamp with one light source not working at all is a fail, one lamp with two light sources with only one working is a minor, two separate lamps with one not working is a minor, the N/S part will have been added by the tester from a drop down menu when he selected the (incorrect) fail

It is still better to have all your lights working though smile



Edited by mk1coopers on Tuesday 25th May 16:30
Yeah I was more annoyed I didn’t notice the blown light before taking it in for the test. It failed on a few other things anyway laugh.

Little Pete

1,536 posts

95 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Gilhooligan said:
Little Pete said:
For multiple lamps or light sources, one not working is a minor defect, ie not a fail.

Edited by Little Pete on Tuesday 25th May 13:15
That’s interesting. I’ve got two separate light units on my car for the reg plate but still got this fail:

What can I say other than you shouldn’t have done.

Cascade360

11,574 posts

86 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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Of course both number plate lights started working today, so not going to try and change the board this weekend.

What's the bet neither are working come Tuesday morning...?

dhutch

14,390 posts

198 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Reverse light is I believe not a fail.

What what about a garage which doesn't check any of the lights? Is that common or rare?

They work, but supprised me a bit they didn't check.


Daniel

dhutch

14,390 posts

198 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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mk2 24v said:
There is a section that explains cable ties are not acceptable for securing a battery read
Thank god for that!

Gilhooligan

2,214 posts

145 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Little Pete said:
What can I say other than you shouldn’t have done.
I wasn’t being snarky lol.

Little Pete

1,536 posts

95 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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dhutch said:
Reverse light is I believe not a fail.

What what about a garage which doesn't check any of the lights? Is that common or rare?

They work, but supprised me a bit they didn't check.


Daniel
Reverse lamps should be tested on vehicles first used after September 1st 2009.
I wouldn't say testers not checking lamps is common but it doesn't surprise me.

Little Pete

1,536 posts

95 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Gilhooligan said:
I wasn’t being snarky lol.
Me neither mate, sorry!

dhutch

14,390 posts

198 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Little Pete said:
Reverse lamps should be tested on vehicles first used after September 1st 2009.
Ah fair. Counts all three of mine out!

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 29th May 2021
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A few months ago, I discovered that the lower radiator support bar on the X-Type had crumbled into rust, and that the rad/intercooler 'block' had just been resting on the lower subframe. Lord knows how long it had been like that, but nothing bad had happened - no leaks etc.

Apparently, 'they all do that, sir' - so secondhand supports are scarce and expensive. As in £120 or so for a bent bit of handlebar steel - about a quarter of the vehicle's value!!

As a 'short-term' measure, I used a couple of ratchet straps to lash the radiator assembly to the upper slam panel:


The MoT test will be in a couple of months' time, so will this 'support arrangement' be an outright fail - or just an 'advisory'? I'm pretty sure the car's passed before with the crumbled-away bar, and the rad supported on the subframe - but maybe that wasn't so obviousbiggrin

The support bar is just that, and simply bolts to the chassis rails at the front - which are quite sound (as is the subframe).




dhutch

14,390 posts

198 months

Saturday 29th May 2021
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Be interested to see a testers comment, but I expect it should be fine. I've been through a few MOTs with a Pug306 without it's rear bumper fitted. Bit of tape on the exposed edges, jury rigged number plate light and taped on plate no advisory first time round.

Got pulled for having no bumper, fought it, including getting a re-test with it mentioned as an advisory (I asked for that) and it went away.

Unfortunately said Powys police officer who shall remain nameless as I've forgotten it, but has a significant reputation online, instead did me for cutting him up ( not at all convinced it did like ) and got a drivers awareness course for that. Tit.


Daniel

Athlon

Original Poster:

5,018 posts

207 months

Saturday 29th May 2021
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I can't see any reason to fail that Jaguar.

IanA2

2,763 posts

163 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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Posted this in Law, probably better here, anybody know what exemptions apply to pre 2003 vehicles?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Thanks.

JakeT

5,440 posts

121 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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IanA2 said:
Posted this in Law, probably better here, anybody know what exemptions apply to pre 2003 vehicles?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Thanks.
Not a tester, but I have had a pre 2003 car fail for a stability light on. I think if it’s fitted, it has to not show that light.

Athlon

Original Poster:

5,018 posts

207 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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IanA2 said:
Posted this in Law, probably better here, anybody know what exemptions apply to pre 2003 vehicles?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Thanks.
VSC/ESP has to be working correctly if fitted.

Cascade360

11,574 posts

86 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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Cascade360 said:
Of course both number plate lights started working today, so not going to try and change the board this weekend.

What's the bet neither are working come Tuesday morning...?
Night before the test...neither is working biglaugh couldn't make it up.

Time to rush to try and fit the replacement pcb...

IanA2

2,763 posts

163 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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JakeT said:
IanA2 said:
Posted this in Law, probably better here, anybody know what exemptions apply to pre 2003 vehicles?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Thanks.
Not a tester, but I have had a pre 2003 car fail for a stability light on. I think if it’s fitted, it has to not show that light.
It's probably is a fail. But I really would like to nail it down. Last year a main dealer cost me a fortune after incorrectly/illegally failing me on an
EML.

Athlon

Original Poster:

5,018 posts

207 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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Athlon said:
VSC/ESP has to be working correctly if fitted.
byebyereaditwink

IanA2

2,763 posts

163 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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Athlon said:
Athlon said:
VSC/ESP has to be working correctly if fitted.
byebyereaditwink
That's precisely and incorrectly what a main dealer tester told me last year when it failed me on the EML.

They were obviously wrong which is why I would like to see the regs as they apply to pre 2003 vehicles.

It probably is a failure, I'd just like to see the law as last year I spent a fortune on unneeded work.

Athlon

Original Poster:

5,018 posts

207 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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IanA2 said:
Athlon said:
Athlon said:
VSC/ESP has to be working correctly if fitted.
byebyereaditwink
That's precisely and incorrectly what a main dealer tester told me last year when it failed me on the EML.

They were obviously wrong which is why I would like to see the regs as they apply to pre 2003 vehicles.

It probably is a failure, I'd just like to see the law as last year I spent a fortune on unneeded work.
Well, I am a tester and I am telling you it is a fail, there are no pre 2003 regs for that. There are various dates for the first testing of certain items but for many more there are no introduction dates.
Don't believe me? Then look it up yourself:
MOT guide