The ask an MOT tester thread
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Little Pete said:
the tribester said:
I personally would not be happy about them but we can only advise. We can only fail sharp edges if they have been caused by damage or corrosion.
"An unsafe modification is one that is likely to cause injury."
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-...
edit: Trawling my data, there were just 403 MOT fails nationwide for this item in the past year, so it's either very obscure or testers are quite shy about failing for it.
Edited by Gareth79 on Wednesday 17th April 22:59
PositronicRay said:
A question if I may,
I have an intermittent eps problem, it only manifests when 'dry steering' the handwheel feels gritty,
rough and heavy, but still assisted (like the motor momentarily cutting out, or a road wheel was stuck in a gravel rut) Turning from lock to lock clears the fault and normal feeling resumes. No loose or worn steering components, springs, bearings all okay, no warning lights.
I doubt it'd trigger the gritty feel on steering plates. As the car steers and drives OK would it fail?
Difficult to answer without seeing the car really. We can fail EPS systems for being inconsistent. We also turn the steering from lock to lock on turning plates to check for any roughness. It sounds like your car could fail for either of those. Sorry I can’t give a definite answer. I have an intermittent eps problem, it only manifests when 'dry steering' the handwheel feels gritty,
rough and heavy, but still assisted (like the motor momentarily cutting out, or a road wheel was stuck in a gravel rut) Turning from lock to lock clears the fault and normal feeling resumes. No loose or worn steering components, springs, bearings all okay, no warning lights.
I doubt it'd trigger the gritty feel on steering plates. As the car steers and drives OK would it fail?
Edited by PositronicRay on Wednesday 17th April 22:15
Little Pete said:
PositronicRay said:
A question if I may,
I have an intermittent eps problem, it only manifests when 'dry steering' the handwheel feels gritty,
rough and heavy, but still assisted (like the motor momentarily cutting out, or a road wheel was stuck in a gravel rut) Turning from lock to lock clears the fault and normal feeling resumes. No loose or worn steering components, springs, bearings all okay, no warning lights.
I doubt it'd trigger the gritty feel on steering plates. As the car steers and drives OK would it fail?
Difficult to answer without seeing the car really. We can fail EPS systems for being inconsistent. We also turn the steering from lock to lock on turning plates to check for any roughness. It sounds like your car could fail for either of those. Sorry I can’t give a definite answer. I have an intermittent eps problem, it only manifests when 'dry steering' the handwheel feels gritty,
rough and heavy, but still assisted (like the motor momentarily cutting out, or a road wheel was stuck in a gravel rut) Turning from lock to lock clears the fault and normal feeling resumes. No loose or worn steering components, springs, bearings all okay, no warning lights.
I doubt it'd trigger the gritty feel on steering plates. As the car steers and drives OK would it fail?
Edited by PositronicRay on Wednesday 17th April 22:15
PositronicRay said:
Little Pete said:
PositronicRay said:
A question if I may,
I have an intermittent eps problem, it only manifests when 'dry steering' the handwheel feels gritty,
rough and heavy, but still assisted (like the motor momentarily cutting out, or a road wheel was stuck in a gravel rut) Turning from lock to lock clears the fault and normal feeling resumes. No loose or worn steering components, springs, bearings all okay, no warning lights.
I doubt it'd trigger the gritty feel on steering plates. As the car steers and drives OK would it fail?
Difficult to answer without seeing the car really. We can fail EPS systems for being inconsistent. We also turn the steering from lock to lock on turning plates to check for any roughness. It sounds like your car could fail for either of those. Sorry I can’t give a definite answer. I have an intermittent eps problem, it only manifests when 'dry steering' the handwheel feels gritty,
rough and heavy, but still assisted (like the motor momentarily cutting out, or a road wheel was stuck in a gravel rut) Turning from lock to lock clears the fault and normal feeling resumes. No loose or worn steering components, springs, bearings all okay, no warning lights.
I doubt it'd trigger the gritty feel on steering plates. As the car steers and drives OK would it fail?
Edited by PositronicRay on Wednesday 17th April 22:15
Gareth79 said:
Little Pete said:
the tribester said:
I personally would not be happy about them but we can only advise. We can only fail sharp edges if they have been caused by damage or corrosion."An unsafe modification is one that is likely to cause injury."
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-...
edit: Trawling my data, there were just 403 MOT fails nationwide for this item in the past year, so it's either very obscure or testers are quite shy about failing for it.
Edited by Gareth79 on Wednesday 17th April 22:59
-steaming in and answering without thinking about it or consulting the manual, which is the exact opposite of what the training we have to do every year is designed to do. Well spotted! ETA yes, I did pass the training!
Edited by Little Pete on Thursday 18th April 20:21
stevemcs said:
We would do the same, you know its going to fail on the tyre so put it through and see if there are any other issues and if not carry out the rework and pass.
With cars and servicing there is little point spending £90 on a service then MOT'ing it only for it to fail on emissions, put it through the test then you have time in the diary to fix it or it keeps the bill lower for the customer if they only want to spend a small amount.
The main agent I do contract work for do it the wrong way round, you would not believe how many cars I buy from them for scrap money, after an mot fail, that have just been serviced, often with new discs and pads all round, and how many my tester will pass knowing the fail items, because there is FA wrong with them. With cars and servicing there is little point spending £90 on a service then MOT'ing it only for it to fail on emissions, put it through the test then you have time in the diary to fix it or it keeps the bill lower for the customer if they only want to spend a small amount.
Never get an mot from somewhere that sells cars lol,
Sooo.. I bought an RX8 and I'm building it for competition (NOT RALLY) and I want it to also be road legal, however I do plan on removing the passenger airbags and rear seat airbags as I'm completely removing those seats with no intention of installing new ones, the car will also have a full MSUK compliant rollcage, would this pass or would it fail on airbags?
Edited by Snowee on Thursday 25th April 02:11
Taigaiko said:
Sooo.. I bought an RX8 and I'm building it for competition (NOT RALLY) and I want it to also be road legal, however I do plan on removing the passenger airbags and rear seat airbags as I'm completely removing those seats with no intention of installing new ones, the car will also have a full MSUK compliant rollcage, would this pass or would it fail on airbags?
As long as it has the rollcage, the airbag removal is fine Edited by Snowee on Thursday 25th April 02:11
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