RE: Lamborghini Sian introduces 819hp hybrid V12
Discussion
Max_Torque said:
"10 % quicker"
Shows how terrible they are at maths i guess!
(hint, to accelerate 10% faster, you need 10% more power. 10% of 785 bhp, the engine power alone is 78.5 bhp, which is twice what this "hybrid" and i use the word cautiously, and of course that 10% assume it adds zero weight, which is false (it add 34kg) And of course, it only runs below 81 mph, which is about 4 seconds of accel from rest, and only 37% of the cars maximum speed.)
They did seem to quote quite ‘unique’ speeds for these stat, maybe they are when the ICE car would be shifting gear or is in a dead spot in the power curve the hybrid motor fills inShows how terrible they are at maths i guess!
(hint, to accelerate 10% faster, you need 10% more power. 10% of 785 bhp, the engine power alone is 78.5 bhp, which is twice what this "hybrid" and i use the word cautiously, and of course that 10% assume it adds zero weight, which is false (it add 34kg) And of course, it only runs below 81 mph, which is about 4 seconds of accel from rest, and only 37% of the cars maximum speed.)
Another pointless mega-car for collectors that is too big for the road, too valuable to be driven and no faster to 60/100 than most other hybrid / electric vehicles. Apart from looking like a teenagers wet dream and having a 'back to the future' super capacitor, that amounts to 34 bhp! it has no other real stand out features or character. Supercars should be eccentric, they should push forward boundaries and be unique. The latest spat of hypercars are just car companies cashing in, using existing platforms, bolting on a motor from a washing machine and a few batteries and tweaking the bodywork.
Of course they will probably all sell but in 3 months time there will be another along from the usual suspects, this one will be forgotten. The so called 'Holy Trinity' of 918 / LaF / P1 were the last of the true super / hypercars before they just became a cash-cow / marketing exercise. Too many hypercars, too fast, too similar, I have become cynical and have lost interest.
Of course they will probably all sell but in 3 months time there will be another along from the usual suspects, this one will be forgotten. The so called 'Holy Trinity' of 918 / LaF / P1 were the last of the true super / hypercars before they just became a cash-cow / marketing exercise. Too many hypercars, too fast, too similar, I have become cynical and have lost interest.
Edited by Bispal on Wednesday 4th September 08:07
Bispal said:
Another pointless mega-car for collectors that is too big for the road, too valuable to be driven and no faster to 60/100 than most other hybrid / electric vehicles. Apart from looking like a teenagers wet dream and having a 'back to the future' super capacitor, that amounts to 34 bhp! it has no other real stand out features or character. Supercars should be eccentric, they should push forward boundaries and be unique. The latest spat of hypercars are just car companies cashing in, using existing platforms, bolting on a motor from a washing machine and a few batteries and tweaking the bodywork.
Of course they will probably all sell but in 3 months time there will be another along from the usual suspects, this one will be forgotten. The so called 'Holy Trinity' of 918 / LaF / P1 were the last of the true super / hypercars before they just became a cash-cow / marketing exercise. Too many hypercars, too fast, too similar, I have become cynical and have lost interest.
what a boring world you must desire to live in
Of course they will probably all sell but in 3 months time there will be another along from the usual suspects, this one will be forgotten. The so called 'Holy Trinity' of 918 / LaF / P1 were the last of the true super / hypercars before they just became a cash-cow / marketing exercise. Too many hypercars, too fast, too similar, I have become cynical and have lost interest.
what a boring world you must desire to live in
Edited by Bispal on Wednesday 4th September 08:07
Bispal said:
Supercars should be eccentric, they should push forward boundaries and be unique.
There should only be one example of each car?Bispal said:
The so called 'Holy Trinity' of 918 / LaF / P1 were the last of the true super / hypercars before they just became a cash-cow / marketing exercise.
Koenigsegg are a marketing exercise?Bispal said:
Another pointless mega-car for collectors that is too big for the road, too valuable to be driven and no faster to 60/100 than most other hybrid / electric vehicles. Apart from looking like a teenagers wet dream and having a 'back to the future' super capacitor, that amounts to 34 bhp! it has no other real stand out features or character. Supercars should be eccentric, they should push forward boundaries and be unique. The latest spat of hypercars are just car companies cashing in, using existing platforms, bolting on a motor from a washing machine and a few batteries and tweaking the bodywork.
Of course they will probably all sell but in 3 months time there will be another along from the usual suspects, this one will be forgotten. The so called 'Holy Trinity' of 918 / LaF / P1 were the last of the true super / hypercars before they just became a cash-cow / marketing exercise. Too many hypercars, too fast, too similar, I have become cynical and have lost interest.
Totally agree with everything quoted.Of course they will probably all sell but in 3 months time there will be another along from the usual suspects, this one will be forgotten. The so called 'Holy Trinity' of 918 / LaF / P1 were the last of the true super / hypercars before they just became a cash-cow / marketing exercise. Too many hypercars, too fast, too similar, I have become cynical and have lost interest.
Edited by Bispal on Wednesday 4th September 08:07
Stunning looking car, but they're simply cashing in like every other manufacturer with a poor excuse for a supercar. I love the way they've tried to appeal to the 'Hybrid-Lovers' with a 34hp electric motor!!! WOW a whopping 4% of the car's output. I feel this is a token gesture.
Max_Torque said:
"10 % quicker"
Shows how terrible they are at maths i guess!
(hint, to accelerate 10% faster, you need 10% more power. 10% of 785 bhp, the engine power alone is 78.5 bhp, which is twice what this "hybrid" and i use the word cautiously, and of course that 10% assume it adds zero weight, which is false (it add 34kg) And of course, it only runs below 81 mph, which is about 4 seconds of accel from rest, and only 37% of the cars maximum speed.)
Depends on what the 10% is of...Shows how terrible they are at maths i guess!
(hint, to accelerate 10% faster, you need 10% more power. 10% of 785 bhp, the engine power alone is 78.5 bhp, which is twice what this "hybrid" and i use the word cautiously, and of course that 10% assume it adds zero weight, which is false (it add 34kg) And of course, it only runs below 81 mph, which is about 4 seconds of accel from rest, and only 37% of the cars maximum speed.)
and then from 70-120kph two tenths and 1.2 seconds quicker than the SVJ says the article.
1.2 seconds quicker than the SVJ from 70-120kph, would surely be more than 10% quicker (I don't know the actual figures to prove it).
And second of all, I think the torque fill on up shifts would help the difference in pace over the SVJ, rather than just looking at the power figures and %ages of that.
CharlieAlphaMike said:
Plate spinner said:
AnthonyWickenden said:
Plate spinner said:
I once dated a Sian, lovely but crazy.
Presume this is pronounced ‘cy-an’ rather than ‘sharn’?
My sister is called Sian and I was going to make some comment about Lambo's being named after cattle, but that's no longer the case Presume this is pronounced ‘cy-an’ rather than ‘sharn’?
When we broke up she seemed convinced she'd left it at my place - and every time I bumped into her over the next few years the first thing she would ask me about was the whereabouts of that bloody coat!!
I didn't know then and I don't know now!!!
Sorry, very O/T
Edited by Plate spinner on Tuesday 3rd September 17:42
She was born in the 70's though.
V8muscle said:
Bispal said:
Another pointless mega-car for collectors that is too big for the road, too valuable to be driven and no faster to 60/100 than most other hybrid / electric vehicles. Apart from looking like a teenagers wet dream and having a 'back to the future' super capacitor, that amounts to 34 bhp! it has no other real stand out features or character. Supercars should be eccentric, they should push forward boundaries and be unique. The latest spat of hypercars are just car companies cashing in, using existing platforms, bolting on a motor from a washing machine and a few batteries and tweaking the bodywork.
Of course they will probably all sell but in 3 months time there will be another along from the usual suspects, this one will be forgotten. The so called 'Holy Trinity' of 918 / LaF / P1 were the last of the true super / hypercars before they just became a cash-cow / marketing exercise. Too many hypercars, too fast, too similar, I have become cynical and have lost interest.
Totally agree with everything quoted.Of course they will probably all sell but in 3 months time there will be another along from the usual suspects, this one will be forgotten. The so called 'Holy Trinity' of 918 / LaF / P1 were the last of the true super / hypercars before they just became a cash-cow / marketing exercise. Too many hypercars, too fast, too similar, I have become cynical and have lost interest.
Edited by Bispal on Wednesday 4th September 08:07
Stunning looking car, but they're simply cashing in like every other manufacturer with a poor excuse for a supercar. I love the way they've tried to appeal to the 'Hybrid-Lovers' with a 34hp electric motor!!! WOW a whopping 4% of the car's output. I feel this is a token gesture.
There is such a commercial hurry on these days to get new products to the market, try and appeal to what is 'in' this month, then launch another product in close succession. Like mobile phones, you can buy a new one now and simultaneously sigh up for the one that comes immediately afterwards, with the pressure of trying to always be current, but never quite satisfied with what is available.
For what it is worth, that is a pretty pretty car. The flux capacitor doohdah does seem to be trying to cash in a bit on Back to the Future. 34 bhp is insignificant, especially against that V12. If it improves performance so much, surely more cars should be adopting them?
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