RE: Jannarelly Design-1 | Driven

RE: Jannarelly Design-1 | Driven

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Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Days Like These said:
Re: a previous poster, I’m pretty sure the new TVR is c.100k, and for something a fair bit more usable.
We'll see, if and when any customer cars are finally delivered.

bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

91 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Nice thing, applaud them for doing it ! Any car-freak must be grateful for ventures like this, as they are becoming increasingly rare.

One thing i never see in these discussions (and one that is very important for me), is the admission process. This model will never scale. It is not type approved, admission in the US (and i guess it will be similar in Europe, EU or not), is via import of chassis and drive-train separately and having it built by "partners". This means each and every one of those will be separately licensed.

This basically means that at each MOT discussions regarding new regulations, legality, safety etc. will start over again and you will permanently and increasingly face the risk of it not being road legal. Any legal issues will be yours and yours alone, no manufacturer, other owners that will come to the rescue.

Frankly, a risk and hazzle i'd not be prepared to take. In that respect the new TVR is taking the right approach by having the car type-approved and raising the whole thing to another, theoretically scalable, level. But, as most will be aware, this approach is accompanied by its unique risks as well, as the current delays are casting quite dark shadows over the whole TVR-project.

davea18h

106 posts

124 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Janner is an English regional nickname associated with Plymouth both as a noun and as an adjective for the local accent and colloquialisms...... the styling was obviously inspired by the locally made pasties. I can't find any angle that looks good, maybe the underside? The writer must have had beer goggles on!

dinkel

26,942 posts

258 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Ginetta, Testa Rossa and Cobra wrapped around a Nissan V6: liking this a lot and I wonder who is the dealer for The Netherlands.

The V6 is such a gorgeous engine and a peach when tickled. In 300+ shape it can stand a chance against a boxer 6. Says a guy who loves a mean G or 964.

Don Colione

93 posts

76 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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yum

bobdylan

574 posts

211 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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I dont know it's great at some angles then Awkward at others .
Looks a little lost in what it's trying to be , is it a looker or a goer.

Feel a fettled 1.6 eco boost wouldn't sound great but would be cheep as chips and turn it into a rocket ship and give some good mpg.

But if it more for show I'd want a V8 warbeling away sounding great but going no where.

As it is I wouldnt part with 50k

Caterham 420R , F type or a cayman or save up some more and grab the new Griffin

theholygrail

261 posts

168 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Saw this today at Blenheim. It's not bad in the flesh but not stunning. The interior is much more Lotus Elise than old TVR. ie very pared back. Still, love the idea of it and would love to have a go in one. Good effort.

cognac1979

106 posts

101 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Really like that. Just one thing, am I the only one horrified atthe potential stone chips down the sides?

mossy50

11 posts

83 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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To me it looks more like an ALFA 8C from the front and rear

Sandpit Steve

10,040 posts

74 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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SpudLink said:
The long bonnet design will appeal as an alternative to the mid-engined wedge. Also, it seems they are going for boutique style individuality. (Instead of ‘special edition of the day’ from Lotus.)

If it were a UK company it would be squeezing into a very tight niche. However as a Dubai company I doubt they’ll have trouble finding buyers for the 499 production run.
I'm in Dubai, I think I might go and search them out for a look-see. driving

It's going to be 10% UK import duty and 20% VAT cheaper over here in the sandpit too, competing with a base Exige or Evora, Alpine or Cayman.

Edited by Sandpit Steve on Monday 9th September 09:22

Highway Star

3,576 posts

231 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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cognac1979 said:
Really like that. Just one thing, am I the only one horrified atthe potential stone chips down the sides?
I saw this car at Blenheim on Saturday and it had a nice little collection of gravel stored in the carbon fibre side skirts from what I assume was a short low speed drive across the gravel to where it was parked.

I really liked it, was the same size as the E type it was parked next to and looked a lot more special than the Alpine parked a couple of cars further down.

MDifficult

2,044 posts

185 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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Throughout the article I wasn't particularly in love with how it looked but then....



Holy stballs! With the right paint job, this thing is absolutely stunning!

Magazine

1 posts

55 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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I’ve been in touch with a french pilot who tested the car.
It has been tried by a french magazine Motorsport and results are not as good as expected.

Weight is 950kg (!), and power under 300hp.
None of them has been registered in EU, too many points.
He did the same time on their track with a A110.

Expensive for a kitcar.

Kubevoid

192 posts

56 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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I like the concept. Although the name is almost as odd as our Trevor. Sometimes having your own name on the badge isn't the best move.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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This floats my boat far more. Better soundtrack, too!

otolith

56,121 posts

204 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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Pothole said:
This floats my boat far more. Better soundtrack, too!
My eyes! My eyes!

gofasterrosssco

1,238 posts

236 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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Days Like These said:
otolith said:
Hmm. Engine provenance snobbery and TVR don’t go well together. Long history of third party engines, building their own was pretty disastrous and the new one is getting a Ford V8.

I would say a good engine is a good engine, wherever it’s from.
Agreed, but the Nissan V6 from the Z cars/Murano is widely seen as a deeply unspecial lump... a lot more exciting in a car weighing under a tonne I’m sure, but it would rule out me spending 85k on something.

New TVR has a Cosworth-fettled 5.0 V8 from a Mustang, forgive me for thinking that’s more exciting!

I don’t have a problem with third party engines, it’s a sensible route for most small manufacturers... especially nowadays what with emissions etc.

Re: a previous poster, I’m pretty sure the new TVR is c.100k, and for something a fair bit more usable.

I don’t mean to knock it, every new sportscar is a good thing, but £85k for that?
A lot of engines are 'deeply unspecial' in some cars, but come into their own when plonked in a more interesting chassis, and something

And on the flip side, the Nissan V6 is generally very robust, lightweight, proven, and has a variety of tuning options should you wish to spend more - 3.5L Cosworth block with big cams and ITB kit if you want to make it 'more special'.. smile

bqf

2,226 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Who is going to buy this over an Alpine and £30,000 change??

It's too dear. Shame, looks good

GTRene

16,543 posts

224 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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bqf said:
Who is going to buy this over an Alpine and £30,000 change??

It's too dear. Shame, looks good
treu, but with the Jannarelly you have 3 cars in one, cabrio, targa, coupe, so you can use it for more occasions?

Wiltshire Lad

306 posts

69 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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So much to admire about this car - but the price - almost double that of a Lotus Elise S (which is in itself overpriced imho) - makes it little more than a very rich man's toy. Shame..