RE: Chiron Super Sport 300 unveiled with 1600hp

RE: Chiron Super Sport 300 unveiled with 1600hp

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Hereward

4,184 posts

230 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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Burwood said:
Thesprucegoose said:
at 1mpg 4-5 minutes max. 25 miles distance.
Bugatti claim fuel use at VMax is 2.17 UG gallons per minute. 8.33L/minute and covers 5.1 miles in that minute. I make that 2.35mpg so the range is 61 miles at VMax.

12 minutes to drain the tank.

Edited to add that this is for the 1500hp variant so you can assume the record breaker is worse. Sub 2mpg
The live fuel consumption display in my V8 Touareg slams in to its lowest reading of 4.4mpg when accelerating up a hill so I expect sub 2mpg for a Chiron at 300mph is correct or perhaps even optimistic

virgilio

424 posts

145 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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this car is around 500 times more expensive than an econobox. In the gloriously unequal 1930, a Bugatti Royale (no less) was less than 100 times more expensive than a Citroen 5hp.
Oh, and 30 people thought nothing of spending twice the cost of a chiron for a chiron that might be limited to 280mph, compared to the standard’s 261mph.

I always defined myself a socially liberal economic conservative, and I am a 1%er, but things like this make even a socialist revolution seem reasonable.

(end of political rant: the chiron is tacky and useless; the Valkyrie an absolute masterpiece worth every penny of its crazy price!)

E65Ross

35,080 posts

212 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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Either way it is a masterpiece of engineering. I wonder if, or when, an electric car will beat it. So far they seem very good at acceleration, but not so good at top speed. I assume it's because the batteries overheat?

redroadster

1,739 posts

232 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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Pretty boring when a drag car can do it in 5 seconds and just quarter of a mile ,plenty of firms would build you one for a lot less and with change buy a used F1 car for circuits if you like corners .

fernando the frog

298 posts

68 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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virgilio said:
this car is around 500 times more expensive than an econobox. In the gloriously unequal 1930, a Bugatti Royale (no less) was less than 100 times more expensive than a Citroen 5hp.
Oh, and 30 people thought nothing of spending twice the cost of a chiron for a chiron that might be limited to 280mph, compared to the standard’s 261mph.

I always defined myself a socially liberal economic conservative, and I am a 1%er, but things like this make even a socialist revolution seem reasonable.

(end of political rant: the chiron is tacky and useless; the Valkyrie an absolute masterpiece worth every penny of its crazy price!)
the Valkyrie is a £2-£3m car so you've invalidated your whole post...

Kubevoid

192 posts

56 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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...Tumble weeds from the moaners biggrin

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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redroadster said:
Pretty boring when a drag car can do it in 5 seconds and just quarter of a mile ,plenty of firms would build you one for a lot less and with change buy a used F1 car for circuits if you like corners .
laugh

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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redroadster said:
Pretty boring when a drag car can do it in 5 seconds and just quarter of a mile ,plenty of firms would build you one for a lot less and with change buy a used F1 car for circuits if you like corners .
Pretty boring when a rocket can do 20,000mph and fly to the moon

Grindle

764 posts

84 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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About as much relevance as a public road car as the QE2 and about as likely 99.99% of us will own one, drive one or even see one as a WW2 Spitfire.
£5,000 bought me pretty much the same 0-100 time, where we spend 99.9% of our road time.
I am sorry but these cars do the thick end of SFA for me. My Caterham is as much fun for the price of a SERVICE on that thing.

simonbamg

767 posts

123 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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Grindle said:
About as much relevance as a public road car as the QE2 and about as likely 99.99% of us will own one, drive one or even see one as a WW2 Spitfire.
£5,000 bought me pretty much the same 0-100 time, where we spend 99.9% of our road time.
I am sorry but these cars do the thick end of SFA for me. My Caterham is as much fun for the price of a SERVICE on that thing.
Good for you grindle, don’t apologise you stick to your little Caterham

Kubevoid

192 posts

56 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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virgilio said:
I always defined myself a socially liberal economic conservative, and I am a 1%er, but things like this make even a socialist revolution seem reasonable.
The everything bubble will burst before long. The yield curves have inverted. Well over a quadrillion in derivatives will implode to zero worth. Stocks will follow. A total wipe out looms which will make 1929 look like a weekend blip. If you can't see that happening you have your head in the clouds.

But for now, enjoy these cars. At some point the companies who make them will be bankrupt. They will be static displays to an era of excess. No teams will remain to service them. Their role will be sealed as Art. Just not the appreciating kind!

virgilio

424 posts

145 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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fernando the frog said:
the Valkyrie is a £2-£3m car so you've invalidated your whole post...
we are in 2019: didn’t you know that logical consistency has no place in politics anymore?

You should be happy that I put together three inconsistent but at least true arguments. If I were the PM I would have said that the chiron is a billion times more expensive than an econobox, that 200’000 people bought the sport 300 and that the valkyrie is massively underpriced...


Edited by virgilio on Tuesday 10th September 08:11

E65Ross

35,080 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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Grindle said:
About as much relevance as a public road car as the QE2 and about as likely 99.99% of us will own one, drive one or even see one as a WW2 Spitfire.
£5,000 bought me pretty much the same 0-100 time, where we spend 99.9% of our road time.
I am sorry but these cars do the thick end of SFA for me. My Caterham is as much fun for the price of a SERVICE on that thing.
Good for you. I'd rather have the Chiron but there we go.

E65Ross

35,080 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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hucumber said:
redroadster said:
Pretty boring when a drag car can do it in 5 seconds and just quarter of a mile ,plenty of firms would build you one for a lot less and with change buy a used F1 car for circuits if you like corners .
Pretty boring when a rocket can do 20,000mph and fly to the moon
laugh

Exactly. Last time I checked a drag car or an old F1 car aren't road legal.

Jasandjules

69,895 posts

229 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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I suspect that the 30 cars have already all been sold/allocated....

MStroud80

67 posts

60 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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Will a K&N air filter and Piper Tornado exhaust still give this the extra 50bhp Max Power magazine claimed it would?

Amanitin

422 posts

137 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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E65Ross said:
Can you take the tin foil hat off?
no thank you but you are more than welcome to accept any marketing effort as truth.
I have this very nice bridge to sell you, by the way.


Amanitin

422 posts

137 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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Kubevoid said:
Well over a quadrillion in derivatives will implode to zero worth.
derivatives of what?


Baldchap

7,636 posts

92 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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kambites said:
I wonder if it comes with the special tyres which were developed for the 300mph run, and if so how much they cost to replace. biggrin
I suspect if you even think about running costs on a four million pound car, you're probably not the target demographic. biglaugh

Wonder how long till we get a Veyron on Shed of the Week or Brave Pill. That'd be amazing! laugh

E65Ross

35,080 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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Amanitin said:
E65Ross said:
Can you take the tin foil hat off?
no thank you but you are more than welcome to accept any marketing effort as truth.
I have this very nice bridge to sell you, by the way.
Presumably the same goes for just about every previous record then, including, say, the McLaren F1, which was modified (rev limiter removed, windscreen wiper removed).