RE: Land Rover Defender walkaround | Frankfurt 2019

RE: Land Rover Defender walkaround | Frankfurt 2019

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NomduJour

14,450 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Can assure you from personal experience a Discovery 3 commercial is great for general farm duties, so not sure why this won’t be. Is it some macho thing I’m missing?

skyrover

12,219 posts

149 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Let me know when you can bolt custom utility body's to the new Defender's chassis.












NomduJour

14,450 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th September
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What does that have to do with farms? I bet you can’t turn one into a helicopter, either.

skyrover

12,219 posts

149 months

Wednesday 11th September
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The Discovery 3 at least has a ladder chassis you can bolt things to. It lost the Discovery 2's solid axles. Retrograde in some respects obviously, but for running down a farm track it's fine. Wouldn't want to slip into a rocky ditch with one.

white_goodman

3,317 posts

136 months

Wednesday 11th September
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S100HP said:
Its for the optional extra storage pod.

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I did spec it on my build. My build came in at £54k!

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Do all of them have this and on both sides? Looks a little odd and isn't going to do much for visibility/blind spots. Other than that, I love it. 110 would make a great family wagon, 90 would make a great mid-life crisis "dad" wagon. It has that "off-road" appeal of a Jimny/Wrangler/G-Wagen/Landcruiser but more power than the Jimny, safer than the Wrangler, probably better to drive on-road than the Landcruiser and cheaper than the G. That being said, the masochist in me still quite fancies a "classic" Defender 90 even though I've driven one and passengered in several and know them to be quite uncomfortable and a bit s****!

skyrover

12,219 posts

149 months

Wednesday 11th September
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If you think the Wrangler is unsafe, you certainly don't want to be driving a Defender hehe

That said, you probably wont be moving quickly enough in one to do much damage smile

NomduJour

14,450 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th September
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skyrover said:
The Discovery 3 at least has a ladder chassis you can bolt things to
Yes - a strong monocoque body, hence why it’s so less substantial than that under the old Defender.

skyrover

12,219 posts

149 months

Wednesday 11th September
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NomduJour said:
skyrover said:
The Discovery 3 at least has a ladder chassis you can bolt things to
Yes - a strong monocoque body, hence why it’s so less substantial than that under the old Defender.
nothing wrong with a strong monocoque, provided it's bolted to tough ladder chassis that isolates the body from the various stresses brought on by towing, load carrying and articulation.

NomduJour

14,450 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Is that why the internet is awash with pictures of various pickups with bent chassis inflicted by towing and carrying things?

XTR2Turbo

1,524 posts

176 months

Wednesday 11th September
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I am not sure on the looks. I see a bit too much freelander 1 in it. I am sure it will sell well but pricing looks surprisingly high with a few options.

I am most disappointed that there is no manual gearbox option.

ReaperCushions

3,708 posts

129 months

Wednesday 11th September
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roflroflroflrofl

"But....where can I put my dead sheep!?"

roflroflrofl

"Why can't I hose down the interior!?"

roflroflrofl

"Where will the military mount their machine gun!?

roflroflrofl

"My local farmer now has to buy a Mitsubishi!"

roflroflrofl

"Why isn't it made in Britian!?"




I feel like the past 15 years of JLR history has passed you all by and you're now surprised by this!

roflrofl

camel_landy

2,673 posts

128 months

Wednesday 11th September
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XTR2Turbo said:
I am most disappointed that there is no manual gearbox option.
Why?

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Sa Calobra

28,908 posts

156 months

Wednesday 11th September
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S100HP said:
Its for the optional extra storage pod.

|https://thumbsnap.com/z2NQlaSy[/url]

I did spec it on my build. My build came in at £54k!

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Is that real? Seriously?

Brooking10

6,564 posts

86 months

Wednesday 11th September
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skyrover said:
Not even suitable for farm work let alone the military.
On purpose smile

The G-man

1 posts

1 month

Wednesday 11th September
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Hmmm new Pivi pro would scare me, handed back two F-paces within 6 months due to the software problems, my 4 year old FFRR at 40k miles needs 3k of new front suspension... I like the looks of the 90 with the steel wheels and I put a deposit down at my local dealer a year ago, i was number 23 on the list back then..... have decided to do something different and maybe look at one in a couple of years if the forums convince me reliability is where it should be.....

Brooking10

6,564 posts

86 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Sa Calobra said:
It's carrying on the discovery look for the LR family look.

I'm not a fan. It looks targeted at the Hale village/Cheshire crowd.

Let's see how many the army order for front line duties.
I’ll save you the wait.

None.

JLR don’t need to or want to.

Do you still lament the fact that Rolls Royce no longer sell armoured cars to the army too ?

Lester H

938 posts

50 months

Wednesday 11th September
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KP328 said:
The more i see it , the more i like it.
I wasn’t expecting to agree as I perused this thread, but I do. One major snag ...the price. So many traditional LR buyers will still go for tough ladder chassis pick ups.

unsprung

3,442 posts

69 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Many of us have a (justifiable) moan about the price.

On the other hand, it's got to be this way.

JLR have a responsibility to maximise profit and, after so many years of absence, there is strong demand for this vehicle. JLR must charge as much as possible now -- a task that will become more of a challenge as time marches on.

This may be an unpleasant truth, but it is fairly common. Especially for brands that enjoy a bit of the premium or upscale.


skyrover

12,219 posts

149 months

Wednesday 11th September
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NomduJour said:
Is that why the internet is awash with pictures of various pickups with bent chassis inflicted by towing and carrying things?
Well it's pretty hard to post pictures of broken monocoque pickups since there is bugger all of them.

Lester H

938 posts

50 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Brooking10 said:
Sa Calobra said:
It's carrying on the discovery look for the LR family look.

I'm not a fan. It looks targeted at the Hale village/Cheshire crowd.

Let's see how many the army order for front line duties.
I’ll save you the wait.

None.

JLR don’t need to or want to.

Do you still lament the fact that Rolls Royce no longer sell armoured cars to the army too ?
Hale, Sale, Altrincham, Macclesfield and Knutsford are all excellent markets (as are Esher, Virginia Water etc...). However, and this is a serious “however”, are thousands of farmers worldwide, going to buy this? Will omit armies if you wish, but..... If ‘armies’ sounds too aggressive then consider utility companies, big builders’ site managers, posh suburban contract gardeners, etc, etc.They won’t go for an expensive Disco .This market is cynical and hard headed.


Edited by Lester H on Wednesday 11th September 22:40


Edited by Lester H on Wednesday 11th September 22:53