RE: Land Rover Defender walkaround | Frankfurt 2019

[ReaperCushions]

"But....where can I put my dead sheep!?"



"Why can't I hose down the interior!?"



"Where will the military mount their machine gun!?



"My local farmer now has to buy a Mitsubishi!"



"Why isn't it made in Britian!?"




I feel like the past 15 years of JLR history has passed you all by and you're now surprised by this!

[camel_landy]

XTR2Turbo said:

I am most disappointed that there is no manual gearbox option.

Why?

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[Sa Calobra]

S100HP said:

Its for the optional extra storage pod.

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I did spec it on my build. My build came in at £54k!

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Is that real? Seriously?

[anonymous-user]

skyrover said:

Not even suitable for farm work let alone the military.

On purpose

[The G-man]

Hmmm new Pivi pro would scare me, handed back two F-paces within 6 months due to the software problems, my 4 year old FFRR at 40k miles needs 3k of new front suspension... I like the looks of the 90 with the steel wheels and I put a deposit down at my local dealer a year ago, i was number 23 on the list back then..... have decided to do something different and maybe look at one in a couple of years if the forums convince me reliability is where it should be.....

[anonymous-user]

Sa Calobra said:

It's carrying on the discovery look for the LR family look.

I'm not a fan. It looks targeted at the Hale village/Cheshire crowd.

Let's see how many the army order for front line duties.

I’ll save you the wait.

None.

JLR don’t need to or want to.

Do you still lament the fact that Rolls Royce no longer sell armoured cars to the army too ?

[Lester H]

KP328 said:

The more i see it , the more i like it.

I wasn’t expecting to agree as I perused this thread, but I do. One major snag ...the price. So many traditional LR buyers will still go for tough ladder chassis pick ups.

[unsprung]

Many of us have a (justifiable) moan about the price.

On the other hand, it's got to be this way.

JLR have a responsibility to maximise profit and, after so many years of absence, there is strong demand for this vehicle. JLR must charge as much as possible now -- a task that will become more of a challenge as time marches on.

This may be an unpleasant truth, but it is fairly common. Especially for brands that enjoy a bit of the premium or upscale.

[skyrover]

NomduJour said:

Is that why the internet is awash with pictures of various pickups with bent chassis inflicted by towing and carrying things?

Well it's pretty hard to post pictures of broken monocoque pickups since there is bugger all of them.

[Lester H]

Brooking10 said:

Sa Calobra said:

It's carrying on the discovery look for the LR family look.

I'm not a fan. It looks targeted at the Hale village/Cheshire crowd.

Let's see how many the army order for front line duties.

I’ll save you the wait.

None.

JLR don’t need to or want to.

Do you still lament the fact that Rolls Royce no longer sell armoured cars to the army too ?

Hale, Sale, Altrincham, Macclesfield and Knutsford are all excellent markets (as are Esher, Virginia Water etc...). However, and this is a serious “however”, are thousands of farmers worldwide, going to buy this? Will omit armies if you wish, but..... If ‘armies’ sounds too aggressive then consider utility companies, big builders’ site managers, posh suburban contract gardeners, etc, etc.They won’t go for an expensive Disco .This market is cynical and hard headed.

Edited by Lester H on Wednesday 11th September 22:40

Edited by Lester H on Wednesday 11th September 22:53

[The Vambo]

skyrover said:

Not even suitable for farm work let alone the military.

The old Defender wasn't even suitable for the Military, good to see they've carried on the tradition.

[Sa Calobra]

Brooking10 said:

I’ll save you the wait.

None.

JLR don’t need to or want to.

Do you still lament the fact that Rolls Royce no longer sell armoured cars to the army too ?

It's lost its soul and become an apple product.

It'll appeal to someone who waxes his chest.

Why couldn't they stick closer to the original ethos?

Edited by Sa Calobra on Wednesday 11th September 22:43

[Lester H]

skyrover said:

NomduJour said:

Is that why the internet is awash with pictures of various pickups with bent chassis inflicted by towing and carrying things?

Well it's pretty hard to post pictures of broken monocoque pickups since there is bugger all of them.

Only one of these snaps in two....no names, no pack drill. Most are hardy tough and a bit dull I.e. just what traditional a Defender buyers need.

[NomduJour]

Sa Calobra said:

Why couldn't they stick closer to the original ethos?

a) JLR aren’t in a position to develop, build and sell a high volume/low margin utility vehicle to compete on a global scale; and
b) that’s what only a very small number people want, and most of those wouldn’t buy one in any case - they’d just whine about it on the internet

[The Vambo]

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[ClaphamGT3]

Am I the only one looking at that and thinking, for what I'd use it for, I'd rather have the best Disco 3 GS manual I could find and a b*stard lot of change?

[Hairymonster]

ClaphamGT3 said:

Am I the only one looking at that and thinking, for what I'd use it for, I'd rather have the best Disco 3 GS manual I could find and a b*stard lot of change?

And your local garage repair centre with pickup truck on speed-dial

[Shakermaker]

The Vambo said:

Did you wear an onion on your belt back then, 'cos that was the fashion?

Gimme 5 bees for a quarter, you'd say.