RE: Land Rover Defender walkaround | Frankfurt 2019

RE: Land Rover Defender walkaround | Frankfurt 2019

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Hairymonster

1,428 posts

105 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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I can see the appeal - it's the rugged tonka toy thing, a bit like the new Suzuki Jimny (on a smaller scale obviously) which has a loooong waiting list.

It's definitely shifted from the utilitarian market base who need its go-anywhere capabilities, towards the lifestyle/Chelsea tractor brigade, who will flock to this in droves, ordering one of these over a Disco/Evoque/Disco sport/Velar. This will have massive waiting lists and early models will sell secondhand at a premium.

From £40k - tells you all you need to know. There aren't going to be many of these used on farms or UN peace-keeping missions. Where's the stripped-out spec model without the toys for £25k?

The two farmers I know drive Mazda & Toyota pickups and have done for years.

This LR will have massive appeal and will be considered the ultimate SUV for many. Will be interesting to see how reliable they are.

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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Hairymonster said:
From £40k - tells you all you need to know. There aren't going to be many of these used on farms or UN peace-keeping missions. Where's the stripped-out spec model without the toys for £25k?
That's what I wondered. It appears to be a very different concept to the old Land Rover. Is it now much different to the other LR SUVs?

CDP

7,459 posts

254 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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I’m sure it’s a great car but more of a successor to the Range Rover and Disco than a Landie. I hope it sells well but the Grenadier is probably more the real thing.

Grrbang

728 posts

71 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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Love it. Is there a better looking 6 or 7 seater out there?

STO

772 posts

156 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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Love it, but its not really a work horse ,like Defenders of old but I supose JLR aren't in that market anymore.

Sensei Rob

312 posts

79 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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Wow, I wasn't expecting this....I seem to be in the minority who thinks this is utter crap. You have to try really hard to ruin an icon, and Land Rover have gone above and beyond.

In my humble opinion, it would have been better if they updated the old one with a newer drivetrain and called it a day.

Sa Calobra

37,131 posts

211 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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It's carrying on the discovery look for the LR family look.

I'm not a fan. It looks targeted at the Hale village/Cheshire crowd.

Let's see how many the army order for front line duties.

Dave Hedgehog

14,555 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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do all the 'influencers' form a line and take it in turns to film them?


not normally my sort of thing but i like it

a matt black one with lara croft gear

NomduJour

19,113 posts

259 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
Let's see how many the army order for front line duties.
No army orders these sort of cars for “frontline duties” nowadays, because they aren’t armoured and nasty foreign men blow them up.


skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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Not even suitable for farm work let alone the military.

NomduJour

19,113 posts

259 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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Can assure you from personal experience a Discovery 3 commercial is great for general farm duties, so not sure why this won’t be. Is it some macho thing I’m missing?

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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Let me know when you can bolt custom utility body's to the new Defender's chassis.












NomduJour

19,113 posts

259 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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What does that have to do with farms? I bet you can’t turn one into a helicopter, either.

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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The Discovery 3 at least has a ladder chassis you can bolt things to. It lost the Discovery 2's solid axles. Retrograde in some respects obviously, but for running down a farm track it's fine. Wouldn't want to slip into a rocky ditch with one.

white_goodman

4,042 posts

191 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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S100HP said:
Its for the optional extra storage pod.

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I did spec it on my build. My build came in at £54k!

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Do all of them have this and on both sides? Looks a little odd and isn't going to do much for visibility/blind spots. Other than that, I love it. 110 would make a great family wagon, 90 would make a great mid-life crisis "dad" wagon. It has that "off-road" appeal of a Jimny/Wrangler/G-Wagen/Landcruiser but more power than the Jimny, safer than the Wrangler, probably better to drive on-road than the Landcruiser and cheaper than the G. That being said, the masochist in me still quite fancies a "classic" Defender 90 even though I've driven one and passengered in several and know them to be quite uncomfortable and a bit s****!

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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If you think the Wrangler is unsafe, you certainly don't want to be driving a Defender hehe

That said, you probably wont be moving quickly enough in one to do much damage smile

NomduJour

19,113 posts

259 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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skyrover said:
The Discovery 3 at least has a ladder chassis you can bolt things to
Yes - a strong monocoque body, hence why it’s so less substantial than that under the old Defender.

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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NomduJour said:
skyrover said:
The Discovery 3 at least has a ladder chassis you can bolt things to
Yes - a strong monocoque body, hence why it’s so less substantial than that under the old Defender.
nothing wrong with a strong monocoque, provided it's bolted to tough ladder chassis that isolates the body from the various stresses brought on by towing, load carrying and articulation.

NomduJour

19,113 posts

259 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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Is that why the internet is awash with pictures of various pickups with bent chassis inflicted by towing and carrying things?

XTR2Turbo

1,533 posts

231 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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I am not sure on the looks. I see a bit too much freelander 1 in it. I am sure it will sell well but pricing looks surprisingly high with a few options.

I am most disappointed that there is no manual gearbox option.