RE: Porsche 911 Carrera 4 | Frankfurt 2019

RE: Porsche 911 Carrera 4 | Frankfurt 2019

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Leon R

320 posts

41 months

Tuesday 10th September
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Gandahar said:
£88k for less Bhp than a hot hatch in 2019.

I know pure bhp does not matter, but at least it needs to skim some skin off a custard.

Back in the day the difference between a hot hatch, the golf Mk 2 16v and the 993 was 139bhp and 272/ 285bhp. A 150bhp difference.
Now the Mercedes A45 hot hatch has 400 plus and the Porsche 380+.

How things have changed.

I guess with the larger bodywork the fatboy porsche is harder to muscle down a b road than the merc too.

Nutz.

Edited by Gandahar on Tuesday 10th September 21:10
Just go for fun shall we compare like for like?

Mk7 GTi PP 227.

992 Carrera 380.

Difference in power 153.

AndorranPhil

5 posts

1 month

Tuesday 10th September
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Augustus Windsock said:
If I could afford it this would be my choice, over a C2.
But £88k?
I’d opine that hardly a single model leaves the showroom without being around the £100k mark;
“Ooh Sir,one MUST have this colour to maximise selling it on in 3yrs time, and of course one simply MUST have (lists options...)....
Well I suppose it depends on how strong willed you are. I bought in Andorra via an independent dealer who has a tie up with an OPC in Spain. All I specified as extras was metallic paint and Sport chrono. I couldn't see how in the real world all the other options would have materially enhanced my enjoyment of the car relative to the lightening of my wallet.

rockin

6,798 posts

190 months

Tuesday 10th September
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redroadster said:
It's kept the every day super car crown nothing sells as well proves a point .
Not correct. Corvette sell just as many cars. And the new mid-engine version has just been released.

Carl_Manchester

5,345 posts

207 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Dave Hedgehog said:
dont like the new front and back ends
in person the front end gets my vote.

rear-end on the cab, at least without the optional kit to move the number plate, is an acquired taste and looks like a Panamera-cab.

Tim bo

1,419 posts

85 months

Wednesday 11th September
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rockin said:
Not correct. Corvette sell just as many cars. And the new mid-engine version has just been released.
Certainly not from a UK/European standpoint.

sidesauce

1,029 posts

163 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Tim bo said:
rockin said:
Not correct. Corvette sell just as many cars. And the new mid-engine version has just been released.
Certainly not from a UK/European standpoint.
Maybe not from a UK/European standpoint but the US is a bigger market so... yeah.

Repent

309 posts

118 months

Wednesday 11th September
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I’m aware I’m likely on my own on this, despite having huge respect and desire for this iteration the front bumper strikes me as a massively lazy piece of design.

The 911 is the everyday sports car of course, but it’s so basic and drab, just a slab of plastic there’s no delicacy or excitement at all. Really knocks the car for me aesthetically, I wouldn’t walk away and look back at that face.

Edited by Repent on Wednesday 11th September 10:34

GranCab

1,542 posts

91 months

Wednesday 11th September
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911 Cab = 4 seater ??? only if all 4 occupants are midgets or have only 4 legs between them ...

Get a Maserati GranCabrio ... you know it makes sense if you and your family are of normal to tall in stature.

Riverside Red

893 posts

80 months

Wednesday 11th September
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thelostboy said:
Riverside Red said:
Yeah, as a 2+2 it's practical, but a 911 Cab always looks like a dogs dinner, and now in 992 format, never mind a table you could lay a whole restaurant on its @rse.


RR
Completely disagree. I have a 991.1 cab and think the roofline is basically identical coupe, especially as mine's all black.





Being a Carrera 4 PDK, it does every job asked of it - and the highlight is hearing the engine sing with the roof down, which happens as long as it's not raining virtually!

It's only a 2 + 2 if rear passengers are 5 foot 7 or under though.
You obviously never drive with the roof down then.......the back end is horrendous with the roof down, huge!!

RR



E65Ross

23,045 posts

157 months

Thursday 12th September
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Leon R said:
Gandahar said:
£88k for less Bhp than a hot hatch in 2019.

I know pure bhp does not matter, but at least it needs to skim some skin off a custard.

Back in the day the difference between a hot hatch, the golf Mk 2 16v and the 993 was 139bhp and 272/ 285bhp. A 150bhp difference.
Now the Mercedes A45 hot hatch has 400 plus and the Porsche 380+.

How things have changed.

I guess with the larger bodywork the fatboy porsche is harder to muscle down a b road than the merc too.

Nutz.

Edited by Gandahar on Tuesday 10th September 21:10
Just go for fun shall we compare like for like?

Mk7 GTi PP 227.

992 Carrera 380.

Difference in power 153.
Why not use the example that the person you're quoting used?

Just for fun shall we compare like for like?

Mercedes AMG A45 415.

992 Carrera 380.

Difference in power 35.

I think, to an extent, it's pointless comparing them, but I think I'd probably feel a bit short-changed when you can get get an otherwise useable car with 4 seats, which also handles rather well with more power for about 1/2 the price after options. It's not as if the A45 is a bad car.